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Newstalk today revealed its new weekday schedule, which will start on 31st August.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Ahwell wrote: »
    They should of given Moncrieff back the hour they took off him

    Wonder if they ever thought about giving OTB the extra half hour between 6:30 and 7:00. Remember the OTB version 1.0 staff wanted Hook to give up that half hour and he wouldn't and I think that is why they left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,999 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    MFPM wrote: »
    What are you smoking? Although maybe they don't engage in a sufficiently hate filled campaign that may suit your agenda.



    'They' are all the same!



    Who's 'us'?

    I'd say you are living abroad. If living here, you sound very naive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    Wonder if they ever thought about giving OTB the extra half hour between 6:30 and 7:00. Remember the OTB version 1.0 staff wanted Hook to give up that half hour and he wouldn't and I think that is why they left.

    Interesting you should say that, the OTB version 1.0 producer Mark Horgan spoke about that at length in a interview with Paul Kimmage in the Sunday Independent last week... can't quote it because it's behind a paywall. They gave Newstalk an ultimatum and Newstalk said no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭MFPM


    That is not how it happened. Dil downed tools, she over played her hand thinking that it was actually in the commercial interest of the station for them to keep her.

    That's spin. She made a principled stand and Denis and his crew cancelled her show while also banning the IT which also stands to this day...Cowardly behaviour by Denis and his crew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I'd say you are living abroad. If living here, you sound very naive.

    Very much living in Ireland. Clearly the anti traveller agenda in sections of the media isn't sufficient for your prejudicial attitude.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    MFPM wrote: »
    That's spin. She made a principled stand and Denis and his crew cancelled her show while also banning the IT which also stands to this day...Cowardly behaviour by Denis and his crew.

    That's not quite right.

    She could have done a show on why he was wrong which would have been beneficial to the issue.

    She refused to share the airwaves with him and publicly got involved in how he should be disciplined. Then she had a go at NT management and how NT is run, again in public. When you start doing stuff like this you're playing a high risk game which didn't need to be played.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Ahwell wrote: »
    Interesting you should say that, the OTB version 1.0 producer Mark Horgan spoke about that at length in a interview with Paul Kimmage in the Sunday Independent last week... can't quote it because it's behind a paywall. They gave Newstalk an ultimatum and Newstalk said no.

    Oh good, I didn't know about that. I'll see if I can get my hands on it. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    One thing is clear anyway, nobody likes Ciara Kelly as a presenter.
    Have to wonder why she's getting a prime slot.

    Some of Newstalks changes look crazy on the face of it,but work out well. Not sure about this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭MFPM


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    That's not quite right.

    She could have done a show on why he was wrong which would have been beneficial to the issue.

    She refused to share the airwaves with him and publicly got involved in how he should be disciplined. Then she had a go at NT management and how NT is run, again in public. When you start doing stuff like this you're playing a high risk game which didn't need to be played.

    Yep, as I stated, she made a principled stand on a very important issue and Newstalk relieved her of her duties.

    I don't think she was 'playing' any 'game' and I dare say she felt her stance did need to be 'played' and fair play to her for doing so.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 302 ✭✭Muscles Schultz


    Yates is a huge loss - again! Cuddihy is OK but I can't really imagine him holding his own for 3 hours drive time every day. It'll be a very different kind of show. I struggle with Andrea Gilligan. I think it's the accent which I know is harsh but on radio that counts for a lot!

    Andrea Gilligan has a voice for silent movies....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    kneemos wrote: »
    One thing is clear anyway, nobody likes Ciara Kelly as a presenter.
    Have to wonder why she's getting a prime slot.

    Some of Newstalks changes look crazy on the face of it,but work out well. Not sure about this one.

    I like Dr. Ciara Kelly as a presenter. I feel that the “format” of the show let her down.

    Any show where the “average Joe/Josephine” calls in to give their worthless opinions on anything just isn’t worth listening to.

    Can see her shining on a show where they have set interviewers and informed contributors. Do they still do that desperate “piece” before 9am where they take callers? Terrible idea.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I like Dr. Ciara Kelly as a presenter. I feel that the “format” of the show let her down.

    Any show where the “average Joe/Josephine” calls in to give their worthless opinions on anything just isn’t worth listening to.

    Can see her shining on a show where they have set interviewers and informed contributors. Do they still do that desperate “piece” before 9am where they take callers? Terrible idea.


    No background in current affairs or journalism. Don't see what she brings to a news programme,but we'll see anyway I suppose.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I like Dr. Ciara Kelly as a presenter. I feel that the “format” of the show let her down.

    Any show where the “average Joe/Josephine” calls in to give their worthless opinions on anything just isn’t worth listening to.

    Can see her shining on a show where they have set interviewers and informed contributors. Do they still do that desperate “piece” before 9am where they take callers? Terrible idea.

    The trouble with Ciara Kelly is that she doesn’t listen, she talks over everyone . For a show that touts itself about being “all about the listener” and “we’re talking about what you’re talking about” she has been the wrong person , she constantly interrupts and she constantly talks about herself and her experience , rather than let the caller talk about theirs.

    This will work even LESS on the Breakfast Show as it’s a different format. I like Ciara Doherty and Andrea Gilligan when they stand in for Ciara Kelly as they don’t make it all about them . You need a presenter who makes the show about the topics and items they talk about. Ciara Kelly makes the show about her , it’s ego driven ...........“I’m a Doctor”!!

    Will be interesting to see how this pans out on the early shift and on The Breakfast Show ! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    The trouble with Ciara Kelly is that she doesn’t listen, she talks over everyone . For a show that touts itself about being “all about the listener” and “we’re talking about what you’re talking about” she has been the wrong person , she constantly interrupts and she constantly talks about herself and her experience , rather than let the caller talk about theirs.

    This will work even LESS on the Breakfast Show as it’s a different format. I like Ciara Doherty and Andrea Gilligan when they stand in for Ciara Kelly as they don’t make it all about them . You need a presenter who makes the show about the topics and items they talk about. Ciara Kelly makes the show about her , it’s ego driven ...........“I’m a Doctor”!!

    Will be interesting to see how this pans out on the early shift and on The Breakfast Show ! :eek:

    I take your point, I do, I do. I hear you, I hear you.

    For me, hands down, Susan Keogh is the best broadcaster for taking over that, dreadful, “Lunchtime” show.

    Although, I do like Andrea Gilligan as well.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I'm not a fan of Lunchtime format and even less when someone else is standing in for Ciara Kelly. I really don't care for people's opinions. I think both Gilligan and Keogh are a bit bland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I really don't care for people's opinions. I think both...Keogh are a bit bland.

    Well, I, certainly, don’t care for this one!

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    All from good, strong Fine Gael families no doubt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    All from good, strong Fine Gael families no doubt!

    Gillian is from publican “stock” so you’d have to imagine they’d be FF.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    What a crap lineup, will be permanently moving the dial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    I take your point, I do, I do. I hear you, I hear you.

    For me, hands down, Susan Keogh is the best broadcaster for taking over that, dreadful, “Lunchtime” show.

    Although, I do like Andrea Gilligan as well.


    Susan Keogh is a personality vacuum. Absolutely no craic out of her. Same as Frank Greaney when he steps in for Cooper on TLW or Gavin Reilly. I dont mind Gilligan cos she at least seems to have a laugh.

    I think they're terrible changes. Yates used to annoy me a bit but it was still entertaining as he generally challenged the woke narrative and like antagonising people. There's none of that anymore. Cuddihy might be ok on The Hard Shoulder.
    Ciara Kelly wont have me gripped to breakfast anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Susan Keogh is a personality vacuum. Absolutely no craic out of her. Same as Frank Greaney when he steps in for Cooper on TLW or Gavin Reilly. I dont mind Gilligan cos she at least seems to have a laugh.

    I think they're terrible changes. Yates used to annoy me a bit but it was still entertaining as he generally challenged the woke narrative and like antagonising people. There's none of that anymore. Cuddihy might be ok on The Hard Shoulder.
    Ciara Kelly wont have me gripped to breakfast anyway.


    Looks like they're trying to stretch what they've got.
    Revenue is probably down for them,makes it difficult to hire new talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Susan Keogh is a personality vacuum. Absolutely no craic out of her..

    +1, shocking presenter. Always feels like she is crying out for people to text in so they can just read them out and fill air time.

    Newstalk and today FM are full of these stand ins now, who have no opinion or not allowed to have one. They just read the entertainment gossip for the day and ask people to discuss it for a euro a text...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    Cuddihy might be ok on The Hard Shoulder.

    Well we have had The Right Hook and The Hard Shoulder so I guess the next in the sequence would be The Hard Left.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    MFPM wrote: »
    Yep, as I stated, she made a principled stand on a very important issue and Newstalk relieved her of her duties.

    I don't think she was 'playing' any 'game' and I dare say she felt her stance did need to be 'played' and fair play to her for doing so.

    We'll have to agree to disagree so. It happened a long time ago so not much to be gained from talking about it anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    liam7831 wrote: »
    What a crap lineup, will be permanently moving the dial.


    You'll be back here giving out about every show in time, won't you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    We'll have to agree to disagree so. It happened a long time ago so not much to be gained from talking about it anymore.

    It is shocking that no other potential employer seems to have rewarded Dil's "heroism" and inestimable talent with a highly paid prime-time job. You would think they would be offering her blank cheques.

    Sadly, it was not to be. Even in this day and age refusing to do your job and publically stabbing a senior colleague in the back are not widely sought competencies in the wish list of most would-be employers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    quintana76 wrote: »
    Sadly, it was not to be. Even in this day and age refusing to do your job and publically stabbing a senior colleague in the back are not widely sought competencies in the wish list of most would-be employers.

    Didn’t go too badly for Chris Donoghue.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Didn’t go too badly for Chris Donoghue.

    How do you come up with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Happy4all wrote: »
    How do you come up with that?

    He tore into Hook at every available opportunity, then had no trouble landing a plum job as a “special advisor” to the government.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Didn’t go too badly for Chris Donoghue.

    He didn't refuse to do his job. He was actually the first to stab Hook in the back. His naked ambition must have appealed to Coveney and his ilk (he was in their inner circle already). Donohoe was seemingly prepared to play the game without scruple or any sense of morality. This is why he was rewarded for failure at the taxpayer's expense. If you really believe he was actually horrified by Hooks words you are as naive as Dil. Opportunity knocks more like.

    I wonder is he any better at PR than he was as a radio presenter. That shouldn't be a high bar to leap.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Donoghue criticised Hook for what he said which is what he's entitled to do.

    I've no problem with what he did.

    Dil could have done that and done a show on why Hook was wrong, which would have been a good thing. She decided to do something else which benefitted no one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Donoghue criticised Hook for what he said which is what he's entitled to do.

    I've no problem with what he did.

    Dil could have done that and done a show on why Hook was wrong, which would have been a good thing. She decided to do something else which benefitted no one.

    It was a good career move by Donoghue. It paid off as he showed he followed the narrative to the letter.
    Dil was just stupid. She gave them enough rope by refusing to work thinking that her colleagues would back her up.
    She didn't realise they were all out for themselves and were only horrified by Hook in as much as it advanced their own interests.


  • Site Banned Posts: 280 ✭✭CertifiedSimp


    As someone who's not a massive radio listener but would have put it on when in the car etc. I'm disappointed at Newstalk lineup. I don't think I'll be putting it on much at all anymore.

    Newstalk Breakfast was great with Ivan and Chris years ago. I loved the Hard Shoulder with Ivan.

    Newstalk Breakfast is terrible with Shane Coleman and Cuddihy. I hate their format, seriously it's just like a set schedule each day, just changing the stories.

    "After the break we'll be discussing if more lockdown restrictions should be imposed to control the coronavirus or if we should just learn to get on and live with the new normal. Let us know what you think on 53106 at a cost of 30c."

    Then Cuddihy will agree and then Coleman will disagree and then Cuddihy will end with some banter insult to Coleman. Cuddihy's voice is grating. Andrea Gilligans accent is very harsh for radio too.

    Ciara Kelly is unlistenable.

    I actually thought Cagney might have got the Hard Shoulder gig as he was in a lot a couple months before Ivan left. Not that I'll be listening to Cuddihy but Cagney would be as bad. He's basically trying to copy Ivan these days, with comments like yesterday to a texter "Are you calling me a stupid person!?!?.....well ok, you're entitled to your opinion."

    It's a shame he's like that because he has a good voice for radio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Andrea Gilligans accent is very harsh for radio too.

    Ciara Kelly is unlistenable.

    100%
    I don't think this gets mentioned enough. When you tune into listen to a show, you don't want someone grating on your ears.

    Whenever I'm on the road early, I always enjoy Rte 1 presenters, who speak softly to ease you into the day. Newstalk is what I imagine they played to Guantanamo prisoners to break them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,226 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    The show that Kieran Cuddihy is hosting now is still called The Hard Shoulder.

    They probably should think about re-naming it - Yeats wasn't afraid to take on the the Status Quo and hit them with a hard shoulder (often late and with a bit of an elbow thrown in) but I cant see this fella doing likewise.

    Also he seems to have taken lessons from Sean Moncrieff about how to read out texts disagreeing with him in a smug, sneering voice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,446 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    with my radio alarm set to Newstalk I was woken up by the tones of Ciara Kelly yesterday, needless to say I changed the dial to ensure that wouldn't happen this morning. Another positive thing for Morning Ireland is the lower number of commercial breaks they take, Newstalk are gone nuts for breaks. I'm aware of the private station versus the licence fee for RTE etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    with my radio alarm set to Newstalk I was woken up by the tones of Ciara Kelly

    I find her very difficult to listen to. Her over pronunciation of every syllable is very harsh. It's like she doesn't speak naturally, and the conversation doesn't flow as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    A "woke" (ha!) Breakfast show, a bland lunchtime show and an equally beige Hard Shoulder.


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    with my radio alarm set to Newstalk I was woken up by the tones of Ciara Kelly yesterday, needless to say I changed the dial to ensure that wouldn't happen this morning. Another positive thing for Morning Ireland is the lower number of commercial breaks they take, Newstalk are gone nuts for breaks. I'm aware of the private station versus the licence fee for RTE etc.

    I said I'd giver Ciara Kelly a chance on the Monday morning commute and lasted about 20 seconds before moving to Morning Ireland. I'm not sure there's ever a good time to listen to her, but 8am certainly isn't one of them. Morning Ireland takes itself very seriously but at least I won't be throwing my shoes at the radio.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    I said I'd giver Ciara Kelly a chance on the Monday morning commute and lasted about 20 seconds before moving to Morning Ireland. I'm not sure there's ever a good time to listen to her, but 8am certainly isn't one of them. Morning Ireland takes itself very seriously but at least I won't be throwing my shoes at the radio.

    You will when foghorn Wilson gets there.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I said I'd giver Ciara Kelly a chance on the Monday morning commute and lasted about 20 seconds before moving to Morning Ireland. I'm not sure there's ever a good time to listen to her, but 8am certainly isn't one of them. Morning Ireland takes itself very seriously but at least I won't be throwing my shoes at the radio.
    I think she's a great broadcaster, but she belongs somewhere between lunchtime and Drivetime, when you want the type of unintellectual background noise that you can absorb with only one of your ears. People actively-listen to breakfast radio, they want to laugh or be intelligently informed.

    This breakfast show will be a flop. Moncrieff would have been a better choice for Breakfast — that would have been a demotion for Moncrieff, it is true — but he would offer an alternative to Morning Ireland. Let Kelly take-on Joe Duffy or Ray D'arcy, where she belongs.

    Nobody would listen to Joe Duffy at 7am, and Ciara Kelly has the energy with a different accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,673 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Has Off The Ball been affected at all, or does it still have all those hours to fill with repeats of clips of itself?

    Also, i listened to Splanc for the first time in ages on Friday. Is it all prerecorded, I didn't catch anyone saying to text in and that?


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    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    You will when foghorn Wilson gets there.

    Is she moving to the morning slot?


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    (I posted this on the Lunchtime Live thread yesterday, too tired to write a new post, so re-posting it here)


    I dont like this re-shuffle. I have stopped listening to Newstalk Breakfast as I don't like Ciara Kelly. I honestly cannot understand why Ciara left a vocation like medicine and being a GP, after all her years study and training, to work on the graveyard shift in a radio station?

    I thought Andrea would be good at Lunchtime slot but I'm not too sure, I'll give her more than 2 days though. She has had difficult topics on that have been controversial already, like "assisted death/end of life" with Vicky Phelan today. Not the easiest to topics to talk about, and a very thin line to walk as a presenter. Its definitely one you have to listen to both sides of the story with...............so I will forgive her all the "emmmmss"

    Really missing Ivan Yates on the Hard Shoulder......he was sharp, sarcastic, a great **** stirrer and funny! Kieran Cuddihy is so bland.
    Switched over yesterday to RTE at 4pm and switched this morning to FM104 - it was actually more uplifting and funny than anything on Newstalk!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭RINO87


    UsBus wrote: »
    I find her very difficult to listen to. Her over pronunciation of every syllable is very harsh. It's like she doesn't speak naturally, and the conversation doesn't flow as a result.


    God, I read that in her voice....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    Also, i listened to Splanc for the first time in ages on Friday. Is it all prerecorded, I didn't catch anyone saying to text in and that?

    Probably not worth having a textline for the 3 other people who tune in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    Ciara hasn’t been terrible. Not as bad as I expected but give it a month (90 min commute).

    Breakfast has been poor on newstslk for a while though so the bar is low enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    893bet wrote: »
    Ciara hasn’t been terrible. Not as bad as I expected but give it a month (90 min commute).

    Breakfast has been poor on newstslk for a while though so the bar is low enough.

    I know I’ll probably be shot for saying this but I think she’s improved the morning “slot” so far. I’d usually listen to Marty at that time of day but find Dr. Ciara better suited to the show than when it was the 2 lads.

    Still not enjoying the lunchtime show, Andrea Gillian is better at it alright but having to endure the moronic “opinions” of the type of person who calls in to radio shows is just irredeemable.

    Would like to see Susan Keogh get a show that’s not buried in the early morning of a weekend. They should give her a decent chunk of the weekend morning so we don’t have to endure that “Home Show” nonsense or Vincent Wall’s drawn out segment.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I don't mind mornings and I didn't mind them before. I miss Yates but Cuddihy is big improvement on August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mikep


    I'm pretty much done with Newstalk now with these changes. I'll listen to a bit of Pat Kenny but lunchtime live is now just liveline on a different channel..
    I can't listen to Ciara Kelly any more,.
    It looks like Newstalk is becoming more talk less news...


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