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2019 Diamond League

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  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭KSU


    So here's some changes to the Diamond League that literally nobody asked for. 200m, Steeple Chase, TJ, Discus and Hammer have all been cut but will still be ran at a select few events, though not at the finals. 5,000m has also been cut and the live broadcast cut from 2 hours to 90 minutes.

    Utter stupidity

    They have gotten rid of events where 4 of the 11 Nominees for Male Athlete of the year compete

    Why would you alienate some of your most marketable athletes?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    KSU wrote: »
    Utter stupidity

    They have gotten rid of events where 4 of the 11 Nominees for Male Athlete of the year compete

    Why would you alienate some of your most marketable athletes?

    Emma Coburn not happy at all, said on Instagram she won't be promoting the IAAF any more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭KSU


    Emma Coburn not happy at all, said on Instagram she won't be promoting the IAAF any more.

    Not surprised it undermines her ability to get sponsorship.

    Athletes can't wear sponsors brand in Olympics/Worlds/Europeans (ala the Nick Symmonds case)

    They now also can't compete in these events during TV window

    Realistically the ROI for sponsors of athletes in these events is hugely diminished.

    Would be akin to certain clubs having to play their Champions League matches behind closed doors just because UEFA arbitrarily decided they weren't popular leagues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭SuspectZero


    OOnegative wrote: »
    https://www.runnersworld.com/news/amp29312870/alberto-salazar-doping-ban/

    Not to say i’m happy I was someway correct but that old cop hunch proved correct.

    Bumping this to add a little extra, so did my hunch on this btw only it's UKA and not the USATF yet...
    Fusitivity wrote: »
    I had actually left but your passive aggressive remark caught my attention, but I promise This will be my last post on here you will be happy to know. I just want to clear the air and give you a more descriptive explanation for my tone. Firstly, I wasn't trying to rip you apart in that post, I have an extreme passion for this sport and as I write posts like that: my annoyance gets the better of me; It's not directed at you; it's my annoyance at the problems within the sport that comes out. you also severly misunderstood my post

    Secondly, I merely pointed a factual flaw in the mile time argument used against Hassan in that Mile race.

    First off on NOP, I said I had more faith in NOP than most groups because of all the first hand evidence out there, This does not mean I know they are squeaky clean(there are shades of grey in the World). It means that when I look around and see the Dibaba's who were in the hotel in Saddabel when Spanish police raided their rooms and found pharmacueticul quantities of EPO and Syringes and when Kenya only has OOC testing since 2017 and the likes of Ethiophia has none, that Star sprinters in Jamacia were going up to 6 months without being tested, when whole countries have systematic doping programs in place, I have more far more faith in NOP than most groups. I would bet my life on NOP not using EPO because of what I read first hand. i.e They were using food supplement L-carnitine to boost blood. At the very least, NOP were ethically corrupt and maybe anti-doping too but the are definitely operating in the grey zone. Have you read the USADA investigation into NOP? because if you haven't and I mean no offense by this, you have no insider first hand info to base your opinions on other than belief and a performance. that is not evidence, when a cop has a case; they don't refuse to read the crime reports and hear witness or informant testimony and put everything on a hunch of bulletpoints from any old source.

    Take this quote from Vern Gambetta(Former S&C coach of NOP)



    Or Kara Goucher who was chief whistleblower to USADA in the NOP investigation. Kara spent 7 years with NOP(World Championship silver medallist 10000m 2007), In those 7 years, Kara only seen one bottle of cytomel(thyroid drug which was legal but is definitely morally questionable). I don't like NOP or what they are doing and questions should be asked but I know they are no Russias or Dibabas. They still deserve everything that comes to them if they are doping and possibly they could be.


    That's that out of the way and onto the real point of my post that you are passively referencing. NOP are not the major problem, the whole system is corrupt and complicit. I made a post on Letsrun about this months ago that some might remember as it got some traction(mostly criticism of me:D, it's under the nick NOPOGEN if anyone wants to check it out). NOP are not alone in this Dr. Brown Fiasco, as I said; The USATF and US Olympic committee are involved and were referring athletes to Dr. Brown for Thyroid treatment; The USATF had him hired as a shadow lecturer and have since admitted that. There's an old detective saying "follow the money" and the money leads to Nike, Nike bought the USATF in 2014, owns and funds all the major training groups and even controls athletes with different brand sponsors through ownership of the USATF. Theres a great article out there if anyone wants to read it "Did Nike just buy running".

    The USATF and USOC was sending athletes to Dr. Brown, Terrence Mahon, Salazar, Jerry Schumacher and Mark Wetmore too and these are just who we know thanks to the USADA report. Wetmore actually introduced the Gouchers to Dr. Brown who in turn introduced him to Salazar. The issue is then at the start of NOP(then known as OTC). Salazar and co-coach Schumacher were going to Dr. Brown with their athletes for Thyroid meds and vitamin infussions. Schumacher is now head coach of BTC with the likes of Emma Coburn, Evan Jager and Shelby Houlihan who are all very vocal anti-doping but there's a clear issue with this. Jerry Schumacher is noticeably absent from the USADA report despite being joint head coach with Salazr during visits to Dr. Brown. That can only mean one thing: he refused to talk to them. At worst; he was involved and is tightlipped on anything that happened at NOP or at best; omerta is alive and well in NikeTown and Jerry can't talk because Nike funds his group and has the USATF by the balls.

    Half the US team was seeing Dr. Brown and have got away scot free while everyone is hinging on NOP, Nike runs the show. The athletes are pawns, the coaches are bishops, The USATF and USOC are rooks and Nike is the queen. Cutting Salazar's head off doesn't solve anything, another head will grow back under Nike funding like it always has like NOP replacing drug riddled athletics west( good letsrun thread on that "you can run but you can't hide Malmo"). On the thread I posted on Letsrun, Rojo said he'd interview all the people I mentioned on this thread from Wetmore to Schumacher to USATF as they all flew under the radar of the NOP train but he hasn't asked them yet and I've emailed him many times about it too but as he said, his belief is Schumacher, USATF, Mahon and Wetmore et all weren't at anything nefarious despite their links and absolutely no one asking them the questions or investigating.

    My problem isn't with NOP getting scrutinised, I just want consistency across the board raised on factual information from people who know, not believe. I think all their houses should be ransacked because either a lot of people are complicit and reinforcing omerta or the US has had a semi-systematic doping program in place abusing TUE's in my opinion.

    I wasn't attacking you and I hope you understand my frustration is based on a huge elephant in the room that hasn't been addressed and no one is listening to despite all the factual evidence for suspicion. It's something I've been pushing to people who have the clout to make a difference and been getting stonewalled for months and actually trying to make a difference despite my insignificance.

    So apoligies if I offended you, adios!!

    And wanted to add that Rojo finally did get around to one of his promises to me in finally interviewing Mark Wetmore about Dr. Brown briefly, here it is:

    https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/11/mark-wetmore-shares-his-thoughts-on-alberto-salazar-mary-cain-and-dr-jeffrey-brown/

    hopefully, now with the UKA stuff flooding out with stuff, people can see that I wasn't been an ass, the problem was/is much larger than NOP and I bet if people start asking questions about the USATF who had Dr. Brown on the payroll, things will get a lot bigger, yet they continue to fly under the radar in the middle of all this again. And Jerry Schumacher too


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭MrMacPhisto


    Any idea if the Monaco meeting will be broadcast live on tv in our neck of the woods? I don't think Eurosport have the rights anymore and the BBC are showing highlights on Saturday.

    Cheers


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    I created a new thread for the 2020 'season', however much of it we'll end up getting.


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