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  • #1352
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    No offense, but given the amount of time you have spent on this discussion, I'm now thinking you just don't have the capacity to understand it?

    I'll try it this way.

    A society needs teachers, social support workers and police.
    In this society, things have evolved so that now, police get more and more money, leading to less and less for the others and ultimately those services can't be provided to the level the society needs.
    As a consequence, some people don't receive appropriate education or support including for mental health issues and so they start to turn to crime.
    This radical idea, (it isn't that radical) is to use money to provide the services to help people so that they are given the tools and opportunity to lead law abiding fulfilling lives.
    More social support workers would also mean less need for police to do welfare checks and deal with those suffering with mental health issues which surely be better for the police also.

    Why are you against the above concept?

    Also, why is it you use a term like 'do gooders' like it is an insult? Is that what you see anyone who tries to help others? Have you ever tried to do anything for anyone who wasn't yourself?

    Now now don't be getting personal it's a sure sign you are losing ;)

    So I'll answer yours rather than side step and shout some generic stuff I heard someone from BLM say

    They need Teachers and social support ect as opposed to before when they didn't have em is it ? Can you explain how other races got there educations hell other minorities? Did Asians just wake up knowing stuff ?

    Tbh it's you who doesn't have the capacity to understand defunding the police won't improve your situation or create the eutopia you innocently believe it will, if anything the police need more funding and more accurate funding, they need to be better trained,

    Do you think less police will lead to a decrease in the disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by black people ?

    Do you think it will stop black on black crime?

    In your crusade for the black community did you stop to think how less police will impact other races ?

    Some of the biggest tragedies start of with the best intentions and your position has all the hall marks of that , you simply are regurgitating what you ve heard other social justice warriors say without actually fully thinking thru the consequences of what you are asking for.

    The black community in America has a cultural problem first and foremost that needs dealing with and they themselves can only do that it's why Asians are so successful and they arent as successful.


  • #1353
    kildare lad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I believe that black people will be responsible for their problems in the same proportion of white people, Asian people and any other race you care to mention. Because human nature is consistent across races?

    What sort of examples are you looking for?

    If human nature is consistent across races , if blacks are 13% of the population in USA ,how come they commit 50% of the murder ?


  • #1354
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    kildare lad wrote: »
    If human nature is consistent across races , if blacks are 13% of the population in USA ,how come they commit 50% of the murder ?

    Because they are now in a place, where many within their communities are involved in gangs, the use of guns and other crime.

    Why is this prevalent within many of their communities? That is the question. Because of lack of opportunity, lack of belief, lack of options, lack of role models over several decades and generations.


  • #1355
    Biafranlivemat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    Tell me how wrote: »
    None of these communities had to deal with a period of hundreds of years of being slaves and then having to go through Jim Crow era laws, an expanding prison system and redlining in an effort to keep them down.

    Check out how the Irish were treated and how they were viewed when the arrived and for decades after that. Hope people who want to use them as an example keep that in mind in the threads about immigration and multiculturalism.

    In Boston of the 1840's The Black community treated Irish immigrants badly. Because they argued (rightly so) the Irish were stealing their Jobs.


  • #1356
    Biafranlivemat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    Tell me how wrote: »
    :confused:
    I already made the point that the Irish did suffer persecution....
    Just because they did, those that mean that black people didn't suffer or continue to suffer in some ways?

    Who do you think is being persecuted in the world today? What are you doing to help them?
    Or is it all No! No! No

    The most persecuted group in the world today is probably Christians.
    I help.


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  • #1357
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Biafranlivemat wrote: »
    Example
    Take a look at the Forbes US 100 list.
    How many on the list are White and Male.
    https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/

    The list contains 13 women, very close to the 10% I referred to earlier!
    Tell me how wrote: »
    But why don't you start a thread calling for support for the Uighurs in China.

    I did here and I've posted in every thread about China I believe. I'd love to hear your opinion about that in that thread if you could post it up.


  • #1358
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    2u2me wrote: »
    I did here and I've posted in every thread about China I believe. I'd love to hear your opinion about that in that thread if you could post it up.

    My view is that any country which has influence on china should be questioning their ambassadors in the same way that the Chinese Ambassador to the UK was questioned on the BBC recently except in a fully official manner.

    There was a time when the suggestion of such events would have led to the governments of the US, the UK and others, often through the UN to call for explanations and or sanctions.

    Sadly, right now, the UK government is occupied by people focused on making their version of Brexit work and do not want to alienate a potential trading partner and the head of the US is focused on himself, as he always has been.


  • #1359
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Tell me how wrote: »
    My view is that any country which has influence on china should be questioning their ambassadors in the same way that the Chinese Ambassador to the UK was questioned on the BBC recently except in a fully official manner.

    There was a time when the suggestion of such events would have led to the governments of the US, the UK and others, often through the UN to call for explanations and or sanctions.

    Sadly, right now, the UK government is occupied by people focused on making their version of Brexit work and do not want to alienate a potential trading partner and the head of the US is focused on himself, as he always has been.

    I did ask for that opinion in the other thread, but your answer leaves me with even more questions than I had before. Do you condemn the Chinese treatment of the Uighurs? Your political faction is strangely quiet on the issue of China.

    Britain have been quite vocal on the issue of Hong Kong, recently offering shelter to every Hong Konger and rolling back their contract with Huawei.


  • #1360
    Tell me how
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    2u2me wrote: »
    I did ask for that opinion in the other thread, but your answer leaves me with even more questions than I had before. Do you condemn the Chinese treatment of the Uighurs? Your political faction is strangely quiet on the issue of China.

    Britain have been quite vocal on the issue of Hong Kong, recently offering shelter to every Hong Konger and rolling back their contract with Huawei.

    WTF is my political faction?

    I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was obliged to post in a thread I hadn't seen.


  • #1361
    Biafranlivemat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Hence the calls to take money from the police budgets and put money in to education, social outlets and job opportunities to give people alternative options than hanging out on corners or joining gangs.

    The idea of giving police forces more and more money hasn't worked has it?

    From
    https://www.boston.gov/departments/budget/fy20-public-education
    $1.177 billion will support the 55,000 students at (BPS)
    If my sums are correct, that equals $21,400 per student.
    From
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/irelands-spend-on-students-is-well-below-the-international-average-and-primary-schools-fare-worst-of-all-36124089.html

    , the average State spend in Ireland on a primary pupilis the equivalent of €6,464 per year, compared with €8,100-€8,300 on each second-level student

    If money spent(or wasted) on education was the Answer.
    The schools in Boston would be Superior to Irish ones.


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  • #1362
    Tell me how
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    Biafranlivemat wrote: »
    From
    https://www.boston.gov/departments/budget/fy20-public-education
    $1.177 billion will support the 55,000 students at (BPS)
    If my sums are correct, that equals $21,400 per student.
    From
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/irelands-spend-on-students-is-well-below-the-international-average-and-primary-schools-fare-worst-of-all-36124089.html

    , the average State spend in Ireland on a primary pupilis the equivalent of €6,464 per year, compared with €8,100-€8,300 on each second-level student

    If money spent(or wasted) on education was the Answer.
    The schools in Boston would be Superior to Irish ones.

    In terms of spending on education, Chicago spending per student is approx 4.5K. Maybe that is one reason why Boston doesn't generally have the shooting figures of other cities and would support the argument to fund education more.

    Also, not sure what you mean about schools in Boston being superior to Ireland. In what way? Facilities, results, quality of teaching?


  • #1363
    Biafranlivemat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Because they are now in a place, where many within their communities are involved in gangs, the use of guns and other crime.

    Why is this prevalent within many of their communities? That is the question. Because of lack of opportunity, lack of belief, lack of options, lack of role models over several decades and generations.

    Because of lack of opportunity.This is America, it is the land of opportunity.

    lack of options. everybody has options, in the case of criminals, joining a gang is a excellent option.

    lack of role models. whose fault is that, I had my Father, grandfathers and uncles as role models. In the US today, it is common to see on a birth certificate, the Father's name is missing, it's left blank.


  • #1364
    Tell me how
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    Biafranlivemat wrote: »
    Because of lack of opportunity.This is America, it is the land of opportunity.

    lack of options. everybody has options, in the case of criminals, joining a gang is a excellent option.

    lack of role models. whose fault is that, I had my Father, grandfathers and uncles as role models. In the US today, it is common to see on a birth certificate, the Father's name is missing, it's left blank.

    You're right, there is no excuse or explanation (none that hasn't been said to you already that is).

    And again, you have proven that it is always solely down to the individual and the society in which they live and therefore there should be no need for any government strategies, or programs or engagements.

    Is that it?


  • #1365
    Biafranlivemat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    Tell me how wrote: »
    In terms of spending on education, Chicago spending per student is approx 4.5K. Maybe that is one reason why Boston doesn't generally have the shooting figures of other cities and would support the argument to fund education more.

    Also, not sure what you mean about schools in Boston being superior to Ireland. In what way? Facilities, results, quality of teaching?

    From
    https://biportal.cps.edu/analytics/saw.dll?Dashboard
    and
    https://www.cps.edu/about/stats-facts/
    I get the the figures of $6.32 billion budget and 355,156 students.

    Spending per student of $17,795

    The dumb-asses in Chicago elected a guy called Obama to serve them in the Illinois state senate

    And Chicago Teachers sent a delegation to Venezuela to praise the terrible regime down there.

    https://wirepoints.org/viva-maduro-the-chicago-teachers-unions-trip-to-venezuela-wirepoints-original/


  • #1366
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    kildare lad wrote: »
    If human nature is consistent across races , if blacks are 13% of the population in USA ,how come they commit 50% of the murder ?

    Do you have a theory for why that is?


  • #1367
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,055 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kildare lad wrote: »
    If human nature is consistent across races , if blacks are 13% of the population in USA ,how come they commit 50% of the murder ?

    Considering how low the clearance rate is for murders I wouldn't say that's entirely accurate.

    http://www.murderdata.org/p/blog-page.html


  • #1368
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    Overheal wrote: »
    Considering how low the clearance rate is for murders I wouldn't say that's entirely accurate.

    http://www.murderdata.org/p/blog-page.html

    Gangs don't cooperate with cops... mystery solved. The FBI statistics are accurate.


  • #1369
    kildare lad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Do you have a theory for why that is?

    Drugs , gang culture , gangster rap that glorifies that lifestyle leading to brainwashed kids thinking the only way to get money , woman , bling etc is through crime . No father's at home .


  • #1370
    kildare lad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Overheal wrote: »
    Considering how low the clearance rate is for murders I wouldn't say that's entirely accurate.

    http://www.murderdata.org/p/blog-page.html

    Will you go away , you think every unsolved murder of a black man must have been committed by a white guy . If you think theres white lads driving into the hood shooting black people for fun you're delusional


  • #1371
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    kildare lad wrote: »
    Will you go away , you think every unsolved murder of a black man must have been committed by a white guy . If you think theres white lads driving into the hood shooting black people for fun you're delusional

    Theirs a select few on these boards that absolve the black community of any blame or fault for the situation they find themselves and believe the big bad white man is the root of all there woes, these people are easy spot as there logic is at best nonsensical, they will do some amazing mental gymnastics to defend BLM and deflect all blame or fault to the white man.

    Strange folk.. but a good laugh if uve time to kill in work :D


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  • #1372
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Overheal wrote: »
    Considering how low the clearance rate is for murders I wouldn't say that's entirely accurate.

    http://www.murderdata.org/p/blog-page.html

    You know what'd really help that?

    Less cops, Less funding for them. :rolleyes::rolleyes::D


  • #1373
    Tell me how
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    Cupatae wrote: »
    You know what'd really help that?

    Less cops, Less funding for them. :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

    You are really going out of your way to prove you haven't the capacity to understand that there may be different ways of doing things.

    Or should more and more money be given to police, more and more prisons built as murders increase and the clearance rate drops?

    That has been tried. It hasn't worked.


  • #1374
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You are really going out of your way to prove you haven't the capacity to understand that there may be different ways of doing things.

    Or should more and more money be given to police, more and more prisons built as murders increase and the clearance rate drops?

    That has been tried. It hasn't worked.

    You're out of hiding? you literally ducked the post that eviscerated your little capacity argument.

    To be honest you're embarrassing yourself here.


  • #1375
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,055 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kildare lad wrote: »
    Will you go away , you think every unsolved murder of a black man must have been committed by a white guy . If you think theres white lads driving into the hood shooting black people for fun you're delusional

    Who said it has to be drive by shootings? It’s simply a fact that the identity of the murder in a third of all murders is unproven. That’s a load of uncertainty.

    Recall also the El Paso Walmart shooter, for instance, who indeed left 20 people dead and his primary target was Latinos. Are we going to pretend race motivated killings don’t happen? That would be the delusional bit here.


  • #1376
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You're out of hiding? you literally ducked the post that eviscerated your little capacity argument.

    To be honest you're embarrassing yourself here.

    What are you talking about? Am I not allowed go to bed?


  • #1377
    Biker79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    Alternative services to the police, like proponents of defunding are describing, will only lead to bloated big government and drastically higher spending.

    It will create plenty of jobs for graduates with third rate degrees in various social studies. This will in turn perpetuate and validate the victim economy.

    Heres a crazy idea: get people to obey the law and live a normal life.


  • #1378
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Alternative services to the police, like proponents of defunding are describing, will only lead to bloated big government and drastically higher spending.

    It will create plenty of jobs for graduates with third rate degrees in various social studies. This will in turn perpetuate and validate the victim economy.

    Heres a crazy idea: get people to obey the law and live a normal life.

    Sure look, with that attitude, no one would ever try anything different.

    How about try something new, assess it appropriately, adjust it and repeat.

    The same logic should be tried consistently, there is no easy permanent fix for any solution and waiting for it to arrive (as with the climate issue) is just procrastinating either out of laziness or a desire to keep things as they are.


  • #1379
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,055 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Alternative services to the police, like proponents of defunding are describing, will only lead to bloated big government and drastically higher spending.

    It will create plenty of jobs for graduates with third rate degrees in various social studies. This will in turn perpetuate and validate the victim economy.

    Heres a crazy idea: get people to obey the law and live a normal life.

    How the **** often am I told that guns aren’t the problem mental health is the problem?

    We need to do something different. Nobody said it was going to shrink the overall budget. Less of it will be spent on militarization.


  • #1380
    cfuserkildare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    If Guns are the problem in the USA,

    Due to more people being killed in Europe with either Hammers, or kitchen Knives, then should we ban those too?


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  • #1381
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    IKEA Sweden banned the sale of knives after an Eritrean, due to be deported, killed a 55-year-old Swedish woman and her 28-year-old son inside the shop


  • #1382
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    What are you talking about? Am I not allowed go to bed?

    Who said you cant? i was refering to the post you deliberately ignored. ;)


  • #1383
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Who said you cant? i was refering to the post you deliberately ignored. ;)

    I didn't deliberately ignore anything, but, if you think I am keeping track of threads to make sure I respond to every post then I have some bad news for you.


  • #1384
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You are really going out of your way to prove you haven't the capacity to understand that there may be different ways of doing things.

    Or should more and more money be given to police, more and more prisons built as murders increase and the clearance rate drops?

    That has been tried. It hasn't worked.

    There maybe different ways of doing things, but the way your suggesting is pretty moronic, and will lead to a worse state of society. Before you ask why ive already outlined it in a post you ignored,

    But why dont they defund the military ? why the police? low key revenge ? we all know whats going on its just being done under the guise helping the community.


  • #1385
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I didn't deliberately ignore anything, but, if you think I am keeping track of threads to make sure I respond to every post then I have some bad news for you.

    you reply to every other post but missed that one because it made **** of ur silly generic BLM follower arguement.


  • #1386
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Cupatae wrote: »
    There maybe different ways of doing things, but the way your suggesting is pretty moronic, and will lead to a worse state of society. Before you ask why ive already outlined it in a post you ignored,

    But why dont they defund the military ? why the police? low key revenge ? we all know whats going on its just being done under the guise helping the community.

    Oh, more of the 'Sure we all know what will happen' stuff.

    Will have to actually take you up on ignoring your posts.


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  • #1387
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Oh, more of the 'Sure we all know what will happen' stuff.

    Will have to actually take you up on ignoring your posts.

    You should cause u got destroyed and had no choice but to not reply lol reality usually hits ye folk the hardest! ;) best of luck with your attempts at getting a completely unrealistic utopia in the US for black people..because hey! its definitely not a cultural problem or anything... we're just a few more teachers away from peace and harmony! :rolleyes::pac:


  • #1388
    Tell me how
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    Cupatae wrote: »
    You should cause u got destroyed and had no choice but to not reply lol reality usually hits ye folk the hardest! ;) best of luck with your attempts at getting a completely unrealistic utopia in the US for black people..because hey! its definitely not a cultural problem or anything... we're just a few more teachers away from peace and harmony! :rolleyes::pac:

    :pac::pac::pac::pac:

    Glad to see you are finally admitting you see the problem being definitively of the Black communities own doing though.
    Your arguments have been used before, against ending of slavery, against giving black people the right to vote, against desegregation. Each of those challenges eventually saw the system being changed after persistent calls for action, this will ultimately be the case once again.


  • #1389
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    :pac::pac::pac::pac:

    Glad to see you are finally admitting you see the problem being definitively of the Black communities own doing though.
    Your arguments have been used before, against ending of slavery, against giving black people the right to vote, against desegregation. Each of those challenges eventually saw the system being changed after persistent calls for action, this will ultimately be the case once again.

    There is a problem lol, its just not caused by the system or the white man lol black culture in america does more to hold em back than anything else.

    Your attempts to demonize me by assuming id try keep slavery going... desegregation and god knows what else, just sums up the logic of the posh white BLM fanatic, because of course if i dont buy into BLM ideology i must of course hate black people! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Unlike the examples you ve used this cause has no real basis, its based off of lies, misconceptions and outright manipulation of the truth by BLM and the Media, the full footage of GF showed that.. but even before that there was no racial motive for the death till it was injected into the situation by....YOU GUESSED IT! BLM! and of course the virtue signalers and SJW like urself lapped it up! most by now have realized there silliness... others just choose to double down on it!

    Try harder your strawman arguements are boring me tbh.:cool:


  • #1390
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    Finally, some hard proof of systemic racism.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/902335422/doj-yale-discriminates-against-asian-american-and-white-applicants-in-admissions

    "The Department of Justice accused Yale University of violating federal civil rights law by illegally discriminating against Asian American and white applicants in its undergraduate admissions process.

    Those are the findings of a two-year investigation conducted in response to a complaint by a coalition of Asian American groups. The Justice Department notified university officials in a letter on Thursday.

    "The Department of Justice found Yale discriminates based on race and national origin in its undergraduate admissions process, and that race is the determinative factor in hundreds of admissions decisions each year," the department said in a release.

    It went on to say that "for the great majority of applicants," Asian American and white prospective students have 1/10 to one-fourth of the likelihood of admission as African American applicants with comparable academic credentials."


  • #1391
    Tell me how
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    Cupatae wrote: »
    There is a problem lol, its just not caused by the system or the white man lol black culture in america does more to hold em back than anything else.

    Your attempts to demonize me by assuming id try keep slavery going... desegregation and god knows what else, just sums up the logic of the posh white BLM fanatic, because of course if i dont buy into BLM ideology i must of course hate black people! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Unlike the examples you ve used this cause has no real basis, its based off of lies, misconceptions and outright manipulation of the truth by BLM and the Media, the full footage of GF showed that.. but even before that there was no racial motive for the death till it was injected into the situation by....YOU GUESSED IT! BLM! and of course the virtue signalers and SJW like urself lapped it up! most by now have realized there silliness... others just choose to double down on it!

    Try harder your strawman arguements are boring me tbh.:cool:

    7 minutes 46 seconds.
    3 Cops kneeling on one man.
    He is dead.

    I don't know how you can ignore the documented evidence of case after case which has showcased inappropriate police activity against black people. But you are going to do so. You have your mind made up. I don't care.
    I don't care whether you feel demonised, I don't care whether you are bored.

    Thankfully less and less people are as blinkered as you are.

    Now, given your recent posts, it is only fair to let you know that I am probably not going to respond to you later, not because I feel owned, or destroyed or whatever other way you want to feel about our interactions but because you have no argument to refute and I have no interest in wasting time on pointing this out.


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  • #1392
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    stinkypinky wrote: »
    Finally, some hard proof of systemic racism.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/902335422/doj-yale-discriminates-against-asian-american-and-white-applicants-in-admissions

    "The Department of Justice accused Yale University of violating federal civil rights law by illegally discriminating against Asian American and white applicants in its undergraduate admissions process.

    Those are the findings of a two-year investigation conducted in response to a complaint by a coalition of Asian American groups. The Justice Department notified university officials in a letter on Thursday.

    "The Department of Justice found Yale discriminates based on race and national origin in its undergraduate admissions process, and that race is the determinative factor in hundreds of admissions decisions each year," the department said in a release.

    It went on to say that "for the great majority of applicants," Asian American and white prospective students have 1/10 to one-fourth of the likelihood of admission as African American applicants with comparable academic credentials."

    You should start a movement to protest against this if you think there needs to be action.


  • #1393
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You should start a movement to protest against this if you think there needs to be action.

    No need, a coalition of Asian American groups have already done so and the justice department is taking action.


  • #1394
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    stinkypinky wrote: »
    No need, a coalition of Asian American groups have already done so and the justice department is taking action.

    Glad to see the justice department are quick to act when there is something amiss.

    Hopefully this will be a consistent approach.


  • #1395
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    7 minutes 46 seconds.
    3 Cops kneeling on one man.
    He is dead.

    I don't know how you can ignore the documented evidence of case after case which has showcased inappropriate police activity against black people. But you are going to do so. You have your mind made up. I don't care.
    I don't care whether you feel demonised, I don't care whether you are bored.

    Thankfully less and less people are as blinkered as you are.

    Now, given your recent posts, it is only fair to let you know that I am probably not going to respond to you later, not because I feel owned, or destroyed or whatever other way you want to feel about our interactions but because you have no argument to refute and I have no interest in wasting time on pointing this out.

    Are we talking about actual full video evidence followed by autopsy results... or are we going off the BLM Gold Standard Racial Edition of what happened?

    Id have to know which edition of the "truth" you are going off so i can reply accurately.

    Less blinkered? you ll prob have to go out protesting again as those cops will most likely not be charged with murder as the courts will be going off of the full video and actual truth...Rather than the **BLM racial Edition** of the truth.

    You wont reply because you cant, because what im saying is the irrefutable truth, and it make virtue signalers and BLM fanatics uncomfortable when you refuse to buy into there fairy tales blindly...

    Thank god this stupid movement is collapsing in on itself, its done enough damage between looting and violence to the spread of covid.


  • #1396
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Are we talking about actual full video evidence followed by autopsy results... or are we going off the BLM Gold Standard Racial Edition of what happened?

    Id have to know which edition of the "truth" you are going off so i can reply accurately.

    Less blinkered? you ll prob have to go out protesting again as those cops will most likely not be charged with murder as the courts will be going off of the full video and actual truth...Rather than the **BLM racial Edition** of the truth.

    You wont reply because you cant, because what im saying is the irrefutable truth, and it make virtue signalers and BLM fanatics uncomfortable when you refuse to buy into there fairy tales blindly...

    Thank god this stupid movement is collapsing in on itself, its done enough damage between looting and violence to the spread of covid.

    Lol

    Nothing else is worthy of response.


  • #1397
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Lol

    Nothing else is worthy of response.

    You got nothing, only deflection lol same tactic used by the other BLM fanatics on here lol when the facts are down ye run away,ignore or deflect... nothing but straw-man arguments lol


  • #1398
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You got nothing, only deflection lol same tactic used by the other BLM fanatics on here lol when the facts are down ye run away,ignore or deflect... nothing but straw-man arguments lol

    The top 3 posters on this thread, by a considerable distance, are posters (including me) arguing in support of the BLM protests.

    That's hardly running away, ignoring or deflecting is it.

    At this point, the only argument I see you listening to would be if I got Tucker Carlson to read it out.

    I'm off for lunch. Have a great day.


  • #1399
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Tell me how wrote: »
    The top 3 posters on this thread, by a considerable distance, are posters (including me) arguing in support of the BLM protests.

    That's hardly running away, ignoring or deflecting is it.

    At this point, the only argument I see you listening to would be if I got Tucker Carlson to read it out.

    I'm off for lunch. Have a great day.

    Quantity doesn't equal Quality !

    And for certain in this case!, as ive exposed ur logic in multiple posts now.

    You cant refute any of my posts instead you choose to attack the poster... what you're doing now is akin to putting your fingers in your ears. But its to be expected your not the first one ive come across on these threads!

    Enjoy your lunch


  • #1400
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Cupatae wrote: »
    You got nothing, only deflection lol same tactic used by the other BLM fanatics on here lol when the facts are down ye run away,ignore or deflect... nothing but straw-man arguments lol

    With 15 - 26 million attendees, these are the largest protests in the entire history of the USA by a ludicrous margin, multiple times that of any that have come before.

    They also have overwhelming public support, including across almost every demographic. You might not like that, but it's the reality of it.

    Screenshot-20200810-175408-Chrome.jpg


  • #1401
    DelaneyIn
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DelaneyIn


    The mom to a 5 year old toddler/child, Cannon Hinnant, who was shot in the head by a black guy felt the need to state that the little kid wasn’t racist!

    The west is brainwashed by the “dats racist” crowd. It’s sickening and has diseased society.


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