Cheltenham 2020

maximo31 · 25-02-2020 11:29am

Betfair gone NRNB on all races.....

Earendil · 25-02-2020 11:56am

Slattsy wrote: »

Notebook a very solid fav alright lads and could well be hard to beat, he always seems to just do enough in front.
But i personally thought Walsh gave Fakir a bit of a shocker at Leopardstown, i think he was too confident, gave Rachel too much rope.
The prices are probably right. Fakir twice the price of Notebook, seems fair.

The 7lb swing makes it tougher alright, but different course, different ground, maybe a different ride, Notebook beaten 50 lengths at Cheltenham last year.. there's a lot of variables.

Chance he goes JLT but if ground if soft i'd say he 100% rocks up in the Arkle.

Had my first filthy AP bet today Slatts....Lake View Lad in the Ultima @33s Willie Hill. No NRNB or anything. :pac: Dorty

FatRat · 25-02-2020 11:59am

What are thoughts on Silver Streak for the CH at 25/1. Overpriced surely?

When you see he ran well behind Epatante lto after a few mistakes. Albeit he was beaten well, it's important to consider he has proven he can do it at Cheltenham unlike Epatante. Makes a decent appeal imo

IAMAMORON · 25-02-2020 12:02pm

FatRat wrote: »

What are thoughts on Silver Streak for the CH at 25/1. Overpriced surely?

When you see he ran well behind Epatante lto after a few mistakes. Albeit he was beaten well, it's important to consider he has proven he can do it at Cheltenham unlike Epatante. Makes a decent appeal imo

He is not good enough. Could be placed. He went off around 80-1 last year. I don't see him improving either.

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 12:15pm

Earendil wrote: »

Had my first filthy AP bet today Slatts....Lake View Lad in the Ultima @33s Willie Hill. No NRNB or anything. :pac: Dorty

This close to the festival?? Naughty!

FatRat · 25-02-2020 12:19pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

He is not good enough. Could be placed. He went off around 80-1 last year. I don't see him improving either.

Why is he not good enough? Probably is but I'm considering his price. Epatante way down the field in the mares novice last year whereas this fella places in the Champion. Somehow prices are 10/3 and 25/1 respectively.

Pentland or Supasundae might the bet the more I think about it. Really need a horse with proof they can handle the track. Supa is a 10 yo now, anyone think he has a good shout? His first run was actually very decent at Leopardstown.

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 12:24pm

Geraghty said Epatante boiled over at the Festival last year. Hendo said it was because of the flu jabs!

I know who i believe there. Even in a bad CH, Epatante is a shocker of a bet at the prices.

RivetingRoger · 25-02-2020 12:59pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Geraghty said Epatante boiled over at the Festival last year. Hendo said it was because of the flu jabs!

I know who i believe there. Even in a bad CH, Epatante is a shocker of a bet at the prices.

Not if you got on her @16's pre christmas she ain't!!!!
:cool::cool::cool::cool:

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 1:02pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Not if you got on her @16's pre christmas she ain't!!!!
:cool::cool::cool::cool:

You daisy ya!

realdanbreen · 25-02-2020 1:09pm

I'm reluctant to put on a whole pile just yet because I think this coronavirus could have an impact on the festival if it continues.

RivetingRoger · 25-02-2020 1:23pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I'm reluctant to put on a whole pile just yet because I think this coronavirus could have an impact on the festival if it continues.

Been saying this for a bit, am concerned at this point

NaiveMelodies · 25-02-2020 1:33pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I'm reluctant to put on a whole pile just yet because I think this coronavirus could have an impact on the festival if it continues.

And that you might not get refunded or wa???

Gringo180 · 25-02-2020 2:48pm

Croll wrote: »

Agreed it's not impossible, but dont see how anyone could pick gim at 5/6s instead of Notebook at 11/4 given the task he has in reversing the form + an extra 7 lbs

Fakir is a 5 year old. He ran a superb race in last years supreme as a 4yo (should of ran in triumph). There is every possibility he can reverse the form, hes a slick jumper which is another plus around Chelt. To say its not possible he can reverse the form is madness.

Croll · 25-02-2020 2:50pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Fakir is a 5 year old. He ran a superb race in last years supreme as a 4yo (should of ran in triumph). There is every possibility he can reverse the form, hes a slick jumper which is another plus around Chelt. To say its not possible he can reverse the form is madness.

Read the first 4 words of my last post, I state it is not impossible? just at the prices I dont see any value in Fakir doing so

lemush · 25-02-2020 2:55pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I'm reluctant to put on a whole pile just yet because I think this coronavirus could have an impact on the festival if it continues.

Very real possibility of it not going ahead imo.

Andrew00 · 25-02-2020 2:58pm

This coronavirus is a real concern

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 3:01pm

Cant see there being an issue whatsoever. Currently no known cases in Ireland and it is well contained in the UK. So transfers of people from Ireland to the UK is and will not be a problem.

lemush · 25-02-2020 3:05pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Cant see there being an issue whatsoever. Currently no known cases in Ireland and it is well contained in the UK. So transfers of people from Ireland to the UK is and will not be a problem.

That could change very quickly however which is the worry. An outbreak in the UK is only a matter of time due to the volume of human traffic, if that happens then I'd struggle to see it going ahead.

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 3:12pm

lemush wrote: »

That could change very quickly however which is the worry. An outbreak in the UK is only a matter of time due to the volume of human traffic, if that happens then I'd struggle to see it going ahead.

There's been no major increase in known cases since the first known instance in the UK. Its stagnant enough.

If there is an outbreak, the most they'll do is stop people travelling to the affected area/town - like what they've done in Italy.

And by all accounts, Italy is so bad because they made a complete balls of containing it in one of the hospitals.

lemush · 25-02-2020 3:15pm

Slattsy wrote: »

There's been no major increase in known cases since the first known instance in the UK. Its stagnant enough.

If there is an outbreak, the most they'll do is stop people travelling to the affected area/town - like what they've done in Italy.

And by all accounts, Italy is so bad because they made a complete balls of containing it in one of the hospitals.

I hope you're right.

Gavin "shels" · 25-02-2020 3:17pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Whats this? In work cant open bookface as i dont have it.

Cheltenham Festival 2018 - Day One highlights

Gavin "shels" · 25-02-2020 3:18pm

Andrew00 wrote: »

This coronavirus is a real concern

Which race? :pac:

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 3:21pm

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Cheltenham Festival 2018 - Day One highlights

So basically no ****ing use to me!

Gavin "shels" · 25-02-2020 3:24pm

Slattsy wrote: »

So basically no ****ing use to me!

Just some light viewing to get yourself giddy on this Tuesday two weeks before Cheltenham!!

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 3:25pm

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Just some light viewing to get yourself giddy on this Tuesday two weeks before Cheltenham!!

Ha ha I'm giddy enough!

Gavin "shels" · 25-02-2020 3:29pm

Guess who has to do a major work presentation on front of all our clients on the Thursday morning now....

Brock Turnpike · 25-02-2020 3:34pm

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Guess who has to do a major work presentation on front of all our clients on the Thursday morning now....

Sean from accounts?

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 3:36pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Sean from accounts?

Sean isnt up to it, i thought Michael was nailed on for the job, a very well spoken and engaging individual.

akelly02 · 25-02-2020 3:36pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Guess who has to do a major work presentation on front of all our clients on the Thursday morning now....

ehh who would that be Ted :P

RivetingRoger · 25-02-2020 3:39pm

lemush wrote: »

I hope you're right.

3 Irish schools currently in affected areas on Ski-ing trips!
SKI-ING TRIPS!!

Tis far from ski-ing trips we were rared!!!
If Cheltenham is in danger cos some fancy poncey schools wanted to go Ski-ing, i will riot!

Earendil · 25-02-2020 3:45pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

3 Irish schools currently in affected areas on Ski-ing trips!
SKI-ING TRIPS!!

Tis far from ski-ing trips we were rared!!!
If Cheltenham is in danger cos some fancy poncey schools wanted to go Ski-ing, i will riot!

I predict one.

IAMAMORON · 25-02-2020 4:09pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

3 Irish schools currently in affected areas on Ski-ing trips!
SKI-ING TRIPS!!

Tis far from ski-ing trips we were rared!!!
If Cheltenham is in danger cos some fancy poncey schools wanted to go Ski-ing, i will riot!

I would say they are all phucked Raj. The amount of snogging and riding that goes on whilst on those school ski trips is nothing short of shocking. They would be out all night wearing the faces off each other down at the Apres Ski.

If they have closed the school in England over a confirmed case... You can be guaranteed that person was snogging and quite possibly riding an Irish pupil last week. They always go mad for nookie on tour and they never want to get a rep in their own school. I would say the Italian Alps are like a den of depravity at the moment, especially at half term.

Slattsy · 25-02-2020 4:24pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I would say they are all phucked Raj. The amount of snogging and riding that goes on whilst on those school ski trips is nothing short of shocking. They would be out all night wearing the faces off each other down at the Apres Ski.

If they have closed the school in England over a confirmed case... You can be guaranteed that person was snogging and quite possibly riding an Irish pupil last week. They always go mad for nookie on tour and they never want to get a rep in their own school. I would say the Italian Alps are like a den of depravity at the moment, especially at half term.

What are you on???

IAMAMORON · 25-02-2020 4:29pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Guess who has to do a major work presentation on front of all our clients on the Thursday morning now....

Text book error Gav. Never let your bosses know you are into racing, da chunts have been lining that one up for a while. Probably winding you up, they will cancel it on the Friday before, or if you work for a real asshole the night before. It is their only way of guaranteeing you will lift a finger and concentrate at all that week.

People who are not into racing never get it, the enthusiasm or the excitement of Cheltenham, to the point that they actually despise people who are into it. They resent your passion for it, it is like they feel like you deserve to be punished for having a passion outside of work. It becomes like a thing to them. I could be wrong but were you told about the presentation by a superior who is not into racing? Highly plausible, that is how they do.

If your work was into racing they would not be annoying your clients the week of Cheltenham. Risky enough given the general nature of Irish holidays around Paddy's day etc. I doubt many of your clients are interested in watching a presentation when they could be out watching the racing. The irony that your company is actually annoying clients whilst seeking their affirmation is not lost on that one. Your bosses are fools and you can tell them I said that. (actually don't do that but you know what I mean:))

RivetingRoger · 25-02-2020 4:32pm

Slattsy wrote: »

What are you on???

I'd say he has been on the Corona!

Itziger · 25-02-2020 6:06pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Text book error Gav. Never let your bosses know you are into racing, da chunts have been lining that one up for a while. Probably winding you up, they will cancel it on the Friday before, or if you work for a real asshole the night before. It is their only way of guaranteeing you will lift a finger and concentrate at all that week.

People who are not into racing never get it, the enthusiasm or the excitement of Cheltenham, to the point that they actually despise people who are into it. They resent your passion for it, it is like they feel like you deserve to be punished for having a passion outside of work. It becomes like a thing to them. I could be wrong but were you told about the presentation by a superior who is not into racing? Highly plausible, that is how they do.

If your work was into racing they would not be annoying your clients the week of Cheltenham. Risky enough given the general nature of Irish holidays around Paddy's day etc. I doubt many of your clients are interested in watching a presentation when they could be out watching the racing. The irony that your company is actually annoying clients whilst seeking their affirmation is not lost on that one. Your bosses are fools and you can tell them I said that. (actually don't do that but you know what I mean:))

Let's hope this was a joke. You do realise we're in a tiny fooking minority here, yeah? In England I'd say 95% of the population either couldn't give a toss or have never heard of Cheltenham or both. In the States, maybe his clients are Yanks, that % would be more 99.9. If they're Germans or Spanish or Japs or whatever, go for a round 100% who would laugh him off the stage if he gave priority to horses running around jumping fences rather than their cold, greasy shillings...........

jimjamcos · 25-02-2020 9:06pm

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Cash Back beats both Fakir and Notebook

You're correct.

realdanbreen · 26-02-2020 9:13am

Gavin shels wrote: »

Guess who has to do a major work presentation on front of all our clients on the Thursday morning now....

And when you come to the end of the presentation and ask 'has anyone any questions'? some twat who likes the sound of his own voice will ask a real stupid basic question that shows he hasn't a clue what's going on!

realdanbreen · 26-02-2020 9:16am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I would say they are all phucked Raj. The amount of snogging and riding that goes on whilst on those school ski trips is nothing short of shocking. They would be out all night wearing the faces off each other down at the Apres Ski.

Teachers Huh!

Gavin "shels" · 26-02-2020 9:20am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Text book error Gav. Never let your bosses know you are into racing, da chunts have been lining that one up for a while. Probably winding you up, they will cancel it on the Friday before, or if you work for a real asshole the night before. It is their only way of guaranteeing you will lift a finger and concentrate at all that week.

People who are not into racing never get it, the enthusiasm or the excitement of Cheltenham, to the point that they actually despise people who are into it. They resent your passion for it, it is like they feel like you deserve to be punished for having a passion outside of work. It becomes like a thing to them. I could be wrong but were you told about the presentation by a superior who is not into racing? Highly plausible, that is how they do.

If your work was into racing they would not be annoying your clients the week of Cheltenham. Risky enough given the general nature of Irish holidays around Paddy's day etc. I doubt many of your clients are interested in watching a presentation when they could be out watching the racing. The irony that your company is actually annoying clients whilst seeking their affirmation is not lost on that one. Your bosses are fools and you can tell them I said that. (actually don't do that but you know what I mean:))

:pac::pac::pac::pac: they're not into horse racing, but their partner is! I've a half day each day booked so will be out the door by 12 from the presentation!

realdanbreen wrote: »

And when you come to the end of the presentation and ask 'has anyone any questions'? some twat who likes the sound of his own voice will ask a real stupid basic question that shows he hasn't a clue what's going on!

Thankfully I'll be tagged out for the Q&A... while running out the door

Croll · 26-02-2020 12:04pm

Anyone with some big AP bets with no NRNB where the horse looks set to not run can use the Cheltenham to go ahead market to hedge your bets.

Eg. if you have €500 on klassical dream to win CH, put 350 on cheltenham to go ahead - returning 490
If cheltenham doesnt go ahead your €500 bet will be voided by bookies and you will only be down the €350 you put on cheltenham to go ahead.
If it does go ahead you have reduced your loss from €500 to €360.

Dont know if that interests any one but might save ye some money

naughto · 26-02-2020 12:11pm

What are the chances of this being cancelled due to the virus

FatRat · 26-02-2020 12:16pm

There's a thread on the virus. Apparently the chances are around 7/4 according to Betfair exchange.

Interested to see how f*cked over the Irish get with the handicap weights announcement soon. Discorama will get hammered I have a feeling... Can't be having a horse with good Cheltenham form go off on a decent mark. Especially in the Ultima. English wouldn't like that. The markets should be interesting after the announcement nevertheless.

Activial is my current pick for the Ultima (25s NRNB), hoping his season over unsuitable distances brings his mark down enough from last year.

The Mig · 26-02-2020 12:23pm

Time are the weights out at?

Pogue eile · 26-02-2020 12:27pm

The Mig wrote: »

Time are the weights out at?

Came out at 12:25 last year from looking at my spreadsheets.

RivetingRoger · 26-02-2020 12:28pm

FatRat wrote: »

There's a thread on the virus. Apparently the chances are around 7/4 according to Betfair exchange.

Interested to see how f*cked over the Irish get with the handicap weights announcement soon. Discorama will get hammered I have a feeling... Can't be having a horse with good Cheltenham form go off on a decent mark. Especially in the Ultima. English wouldn't like that. The markets should be interesting after the announcement nevertheless.

Activial is my current pick for the Ultima (25s NRNB), hoping his season over unsuitable distances brings his mark down enough from last year.

It's not as short as 7/4 is it?!?!?!

:(:(
Thought i had heard about 1/10 to go ahead??

Slattsy · 26-02-2020 12:32pm

Can you please keep the virus scaremongering to the other thread, and let the grown ups talk horses here

akelly02 · 26-02-2020 12:33pm

the queen mother is surely the race of the festival ....altior for me just about nicks it !!

Doctors room ghost · 26-02-2020 12:36pm

Russell has the bunny ears ready for all ye doubters.
GO ON THE PERCY

Slattsy · 26-02-2020 12:36pm

akelly02 wrote: »

the queen mother is surely the race of the festival ....altior for me just about nicks it !!

One to sit back and enjoy. Cannot see myself having a bet on it, certainly at current prices. If you gave me a 10er though i'd just about plump for CPS.

Cheltenham 2020

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