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Wheelchair Accessible Places In Dublin

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    marwelie wrote: »
    Yep, Bono's Gaff is very nice though, haven't been in there since about 1990. It was a dump then, it isn't anymore ;)

    On the assumption that there are standard toilets in the club, but no accessible toilets, this is almost certainly a breach of the Part M building regs. The Part M TGD from 2000 state that where public toilets are provided, an accessible toilet is mandatory. Would you fancy making a complaint to Dublin City Council on this?

    It is probably also in breach of equality legislation - remember the Searson's case; http://www.independent.ie/national-news/pub-forced-to-provide-toilet-for-disabled-as-presenter-wins-case-95542.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭marwelie


    Able-bodied toilets are in the basement, it may be a listed building, did Bono not have problems trying expand the Clarence because of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    marwelie wrote: »
    Able-bodied toilets are in the basement, it may be a listed building, did Bono not have problems trying expand the Clarence because of this?

    There is no general exemption to Part M accessibility for listed buildings. If they can do the works to turn it into a modern club, with all that goes with that, then they can provide a single accessible bathroom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 Stillorganboy


    Temple Bar is a horrible place for wheelchairs. If you have time enter your accessible places on www.rollsquare.com. Most pubs are accessible, some exceptions are pubs upstairs, or basements. Sinnott in Stephens green area, is example. Most important is to enjoy yourself and don't blame your disability. Your a customer and they need your business,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,647 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Temple Bar is a horrible place for wheelchairs. If you have time enter your accessible places on www.rollsquare.com. Most pubs are accessible, some exceptions are pubs upstairs, or basements. Sinnott in Stephens green area, is example. Most important is to enjoy yourself and don't blame your disability. Your a customer and they need your business,

    Fcukin kip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    Part of the problem is not just "wheelchair accessible" but toilets with proper hoists.

    In Scotland there are sixty-something Changing Places toilets http://www.changing-places.org/install_a_toilet/equipment/hoists.aspx and in Northern Ireland there are eight. Not one in the Republic, as far as I know.

    This means that anyone with cerebral palsy, for instance, can't go on an outing and rely on being able to use the toilet.

    It's kind of crazy that these hoists aren't standard in new builds, and retro-fitted where possible in all public spaces. Apparently the National Gallery is installing one, but it's not ready yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    Part of the problem is not just "wheelchair accessible" but toilets with proper hoists.

    In Scotland there are sixty-something Changing Places toilets http://www.changing-places.org/install_a_toilet/equipment/hoists.aspx and in Northern Ireland there are eight. Not one in the Republic, as far as I know.

    This means that anyone with cerebral palsy, for instance, can't go on an outing and rely on being able to use the toilet.

    It's kind of crazy that these hoists aren't standard in new builds, and retro-fitted where possible in all public spaces. Apparently the National Gallery is installing one, but it's not ready yet.

    I hadn't heard about the National Gallery. That's a positive step forward, but you're right, lots more Changing Places are needed. I guess they are never going to be standard, but for major new developments, they would be very popular for those who need them. If we ever get new developments like the Dundrum Town Centre, Convention Centre, Grand Canal Theatre etc, they should certainly have this kind of facility.

    I heard one parent of a young adult with an intellectual disability explaining how she has to bring a shower curtain with her, to put down on the floor of the disabled loo when changing her son. Not nice...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭marwelie


    Does anybody have any experience of the Merchant Arch Pub in Dublin. Supposed to be going to a gig there tomorrow night but it doesnt look very wheelchair friendly to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭marwelie


    I was right about the Merchant Arch, avoid like the plague......steps, steps and then more steps


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Hi

    Looking to visit O2 in Dublin in October for a concert, used the search function and pulled this thread up.

    2 adults and 1 young adult (17) in wheelchair will be attending

    Any updates to this thread?

    Plan at this stage will be to fly in and get the bus - not sure which one yet - as this looks cheaper than the ferry.

    The concert in Sunday evening and we will definitely stay on Sunday, possibly Saturday too.

    Any hotel recommendations?

    Jurys Inn and Maldron in Cardiff Lane, look closest to O2.

    We are well travelled and often struggle to get a room with disabled facilities and accommodate 3 individuals.

    All help appreciated, but I will start another thread

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Zipppy


    Hi
    Might be some help to you in AccessDublin...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭marwelie


    abarkie wrote: »
    Hi

    Looking to visit O2 in Dublin in October for a concert, used the search function and pulled this thread up.

    2 adults and 1 young adult (17) in wheelchair will be attending

    Any updates to this thread?

    Plan at this stage will be to fly in and get the bus - not sure which one yet - as this looks cheaper than the ferry.

    The concert in Sunday evening and we will definitely stay on Sunday, possibly Saturday too.

    Any hotel recommendations?

    Jurys Inn and Maldron in Cardiff Lane, look closest to O2.

    We are well travelled and often struggle to get a room with disabled facilities and accommodate 3 individuals.

    All help appreciated, but I will start another thread

    Thanks

    The Gibson Hotel is directly across from the O2. I havent stayed there but it is fully accessible to visit and eat in and as a relatively new hotel I would be certain they would have wheelchair friendly accommodation. As for getting to and from the airport, the Aircoach service from the airport isn't fully accessible. There are usually loads of taxis outside the airport, including some van type ones with ramps which means you wouldnt have to transfer your son/daughter out of the chair. Alternatively there is a regular 16a Dublin Bus that will take you from the airport to O'Connell Street. All you have to do then is walk around the corner to Middle Abbey Street and get the Red Line Luas to The Point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    abarkie wrote: »
    Hi

    Looking to visit O2 in Dublin in October for a concert, used the search function and pulled this thread up.

    2 adults and 1 young adult (17) in wheelchair will be attending

    Any updates to this thread?

    Plan at this stage will be to fly in and get the bus - not sure which one yet - as this looks cheaper than the ferry.

    The concert in Sunday evening and we will definitely stay on Sunday, possibly Saturday too.

    Any hotel recommendations?

    Jurys Inn and Maldron in Cardiff Lane, look closest to O2.

    We are well travelled and often struggle to get a room with disabled facilities and accommodate 3 individuals.

    All help appreciated, but I will start another thread

    Thanks

    Just to let people know the outcome:

    Stayed at the Maldron on Cardiff Lane

    Walked to / from the 3 Arena / O2

    Very easy access to concert

    Good door staff, made entrance a dream

    Escorted to seating area via a lift

    Toilets near to seat - although able bodied person decided to use them

    Due to go back in May 2015

    Thanks for all the help


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 jadegreen


    Hiya, as my name suggests I run the city :)
    DCC have just audited all public buildings and parks (roads/streets is underway - BIG task as there is 1200km of roadway in city area alone) re their accessibility for persons with a disability.
    Results and recommendations of this audit will very shortly be published on a new website which will also invite citizens comments and submissions of further 'issues' noted by citizens in the city.
    The audit is a legal requirement for all local authorities and consultations and draft remedial implementation plans will shortly be underway.
    Also as part of this initiative, DCC will be assessing, initially 1000 premisies in city and publishing details of accessibility features (wheelchair access, toilets, braille, signage, lift access etc etc etc ) on this new website. More premises will be added on an ongoing basis.
    How helpful will this be?? Any suggestions (realistic ones!!!)???
    I suggest that the dimensions currently applying to disabled toilets be revised upwards, some that their proprietors will tell you are within the guidelines are clearly too small and have no maneuvering room sometimes you cant even get the door closed which gives a new meaning to public toilets:eek: it is such a bonus to find one that is easy to manage in. just a thought because there is no point in having plenty of them if they are not fit for purpose, right. thanks



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    jadegreen wrote: »
    I suggest that the dimensions currently applying to disabled toilets be revised upwards, some that their proprietors will tell you are within the guidelines are clearly too small and have no maneuvering room sometimes you cant even get the door closed which gives a new meaning to public toilets:eek: it is such a bonus to find one that is easy to manage in. just a thought because there is no point in having plenty of them if they are not fit for purpose, right. thanks


    Also, all disabled toilets should include proper wheeled hoists - not very dear to instal, and make a huge difference to who can use the toilet.


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