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N56 - Dungloe to Glenties

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  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Is Phase 3 Kilkenny to Letterilly still ongoing?
    I've no record of it finishing. If it finished when was this?

    Looks finished to me.

    I think the reduced speed limits have been removed AFAIK.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Looks finished to me.

    I think the reduced speed limits have been removed AFAIK.

    Thanks. Anyone any idea when this happened?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Dungloe section is now fully U/C, stop go in place outside Dungloe with earthworks and topsoil stripping well underway. BAM also appear to have resurfaced a few km of the R252 (or at least their signs have been used for the roadworks)

    Looks like the plan at the stop-go is to temporarily divert traffic back to the original alignment that was only replaced around 15 years ago!

    Here..
    https://goo.gl/maps/qDXZfzcQVBJtVCjK6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Think that was done by DCC direct labour and hence took about 15 years to be done!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Kilkenny-Letterilly

    Just for the record, it looks like the scheme may have been completed in March then finishing works didn't happen until after the lockdown.

    Does that sound right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Kilkenny-Letterilly

    Just for the record, it looks like the scheme may have been completed in March then finishing works didn't happen until after the lockdown.

    Does that sound right?

    The photo is of a small diversion done about fifteen years ago; not Kilkenny-Letterilly. I haven't been up recently to confirm if that's true about that scheme though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,491 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    From where the upgrade works commenced closest to Glenties, are they doing from there to Glenties town? Was on road today/yesterday, the improvement between there and letter is huge. Seems to be some big work going on closer to Dungloe too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The eventual scheme is going to be from south/west of Glenties all the way to Dungloe; excluding any upgrade to Glenties town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,491 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    L1011 wrote: »
    The eventual scheme is going to be from south/west of Glenties all the way to Dungloe; excluding any upgrade to Glenties town.

    South/west as in the Ardara side of Glenties? Thatd be even better, was just hoping theyd extend the current road closer to the town, say to like the petrol station if was possible


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    They're doing up as far as the R252 turn off I think, hopefully they'll re-design the junction at the top of Glenties to give priority to the N56 as well
    spacetweek wrote: »
    Kilkenny-Letterilly

    Just for the record, it looks like the scheme may have been completed in March then finishing works didn't happen until after the lockdown.

    Does that sound right?

    I haven't been along that section since before lockdown, from what I've heard its now fully open though seems odd there were no politicians out for brownie points with a proper opening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Kilkenny-Letterilly

    Just for the record, it looks like the scheme may have been completed in March then finishing works didn't happen until after the lockdown.

    Does that sound right?

    I think there were a few snagging issues to sort after the lockdown but it was otherwise completed before that.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    A few pics from just outside Dungloe this morning


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Any word on when Phase 4 Letterilly to Kilraine is starting? Was supposed to be August past.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    marno21 wrote: »

    Phase 1? Has this tiny scheme been split into 2 phases?

    Or did they mean to say Phase 4, as Letterilly-Kilraine is Phase 4 of Dungloe-Glenties?

    I see the length in the tender is 4.1 km, but the official scheme length is 4.9. Perhaps Phase 2 is the other 800 metres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Phase 1? Has this tiny scheme been split into 2 phases?

    Or did they mean to say Phase 4, as Letterilly-Kilraine is Phase 4 of Dungloe-Glenties?

    I see the length in the tender is 4.1 km, but the official scheme length is 4.9. Perhaps Phase 2 is the other 800 metres.

    Its been split. The length given for it up-thread was 7.5km; which would make the second bundle 3.4km.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    L1011 wrote: »
    Its been split. The length given for it up-thread was 7.5km; which would make the second bundle 3.4km.
    You probably have better knowledge than me of this going by your posts to date in this thread, but it seems to my eye that Phase 1 is the northern side of Glenties and Phase 2 is the remainder of the N56 from Glenties to Kilraine (R262)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I haven't been home in a shockingly long time so don't rely on me for local info but yes, I think that's the case.

    Was about to head up for a week when the first local lockdown stopped me.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Do we have any idea when Phase 2 will start?


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    None from what I can see. The PIN for the entire Letterilly-Kilraine (7.5km) was put out in December 2018, and then the actual tender notice for the first 4.1km of same was put out in March. According to the media the entire 7.5km was to go out to tender in 2019, and was budgeted for. It's not clear why it was shortened, perhaps the budget wouldn't cover the entire 7.5km

    I'd imagine the remaining 3.4km will go ahead in 2021. Can't be dragging this out for too much longer and there will be lots of capital funding available considering a) the cycling component of this and b) there is only one major project that can feasibly go ahead in the next three years (N5)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    marno21 wrote: »

    Does tender award mean they can get started right away?

    They're making good progress with the Dungloe - Leitermacaward section, as well as the big works underway near Dungloe there's another mostly offline section U/C south of the R252 with noticeable progress every time I've passed. With lockdown v2 though I doubt I'll be out that way this side of Christmas again now


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Does tender award mean they can get started right away?

    They're making good progress with the Dungloe - Leitermacaward section, as well as the big works underway near Dungloe there's another mostly offline section U/C south of the R252 with noticeable progress every time I've passed. With lockdown v2 though I doubt I'll be out that way this side of Christmas again now
    They should be underway in Q1 2021


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




    Fantastic drone footage of the 7.1km Dungloe to Cloghbolie scheme. Quite a lot of traffic management along this stretch, quite irritating for locals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,856 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    marno21 wrote: »


    Fantastic drone footage of the 7.1km Dungloe to Cloghbolie scheme. Quite a lot of traffic management along this stretch, quite irritating for locals.

    Jesus I didn't know if I was looking at a quarry operation or road construction there!


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    From Donegal County Council Facebook & Twitter accounts on 29 January in relation to the Letterily to Kilraine section:

    N56 Letterilly Kilraine Phase 1 Road Project

    Site Clearance works on the N56 Letterilly section of road from Glenties to Dungloe for approx. 3 weeks. Rolling Stop & Go in operation from today, Mon 01/02/21, minor delays are to be expected so allow extra time for travel and any fallen debris on road”


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    From Donegal County Council Facebook & Twitter accounts on 29 January in relation to the Letterily to Kilraine section:

    N56 Letterilly Kilraine Phase 1 Road Project

    Site Clearance works on the N56 Letterilly section of road from Glenties to Dungloe for approx. 3 weeks. Rolling Stop & Go in operation from today, Mon 01/02/21, minor delays are to be expected so allow extra time for travel and any fallen debris on road”

    Great, we can consider this to be under construction now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    Works are continuing on Phase 1 of the Letterilly - Kilraine Road Project.

    Out of curiosity has there been any update on Phase 2 of this project or will this be started after phase 1 is completed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Is Letterilly - Kilraine the section just outside Glenties on the Dungloe side? I'm not familiar with the townland names


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    Is Letterilly - Kilraine the section just outside Glenties on the Dungloe side? I'm not familiar with the townland names

    Letterilly is the townland on the Dungloe side of Glenties near Maas. The current phase 1 works go from here to Glenties.

    Kilraine is the townland on the other side of Glenties, at the junction with the R262 Frosses road.
    The proposed phase 2 works go from Glenties to this junction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭yannakis


    N56 progress Dashcam footage from the ground - I only drove the section R252 to Dungloe:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭yannakis


    Longer version from yesterday (15 May) - this time all the way from Dungloe to Cloghbolie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    I see you have the same experience I do in always getting stuck for ages at all the lights. I must have been through there 10+ times over the past couple of months and never once get a green light


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭yannakis


    I see you have the same experience I do in always getting stuck for ages at all the lights. I must have been through there 10+ times over the past couple of months and never once get a green light

    Absolutely awful timing these lights.. I was visiting the area but I can imagine 10km of stop/go for a couple of years will drive locals crazy..!


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    New Temporary Road & traffic lights came into operation on the Letterilly section of this road (just outside Glenties) last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The stop-go systems here - both schemes currently underway but particularly on Dungloe to Cloghbolie - are absolutely horrendous.

    D-C has some sections that are basically done albeit probably need a wearing course - road is on new alignment, old alignment or new cycle track is set up - but other sections where it looks like they're still blasting and lots of heavy stone works ongoing.

    L-K is nowhere near as advanced yet obviously. A lot of the stop-go systems have you driivng on the future cycle track I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭dollylama


    L1011 wrote: »
    The stop-go systems here - both schemes currently underway but particularly on Dungloe to Cloghbolie - are absolutely horrendous.

    D-C has some sections that are basically done albeit probably need a wearing course - road is on new alignment, old alignment or new cycle track is set up - but other sections where it looks like they're still blasting and lots of heavy stone works ongoing.

    L-K is nowhere near as advanced yet obviously. A lot of the stop-go systems have you driivng on the future cycle track I think.

    I counted near 20 minutes of lights on the dungloe section the last weekend I was up there... 20 minutes each way! I heard it's causing headache for the guys hauling material to the Glenties job as they are coming from out past Crolly, through the lights on the Dungloe job every time


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    L1011 wrote: »
    The stop-go systems here - both schemes currently underway but particularly on Dungloe to Cloghbolie - are absolutely horrendous.

    D-C has some sections that are basically done albeit probably need a wearing course - road is on new alignment, old alignment or new cycle track is set up - but other sections where it looks like they're still blasting and lots of heavy stone works ongoing.

    L-K is nowhere near as advanced yet obviously. A lot of the stop-go systems have you driivng on the future cycle track I think.

    Its been horrendous for the best part of a decade now, I think people are just beat into submission at this stage.

    As I've said before, great to see these updates happen but the creeping 'few km at a time' method of upgrading the road has meant never ending roadworks and no time savings. In a few years we'll hopefully finally see the benefits but this method of incrementally digging up the same stretch of road means massive disruption for far too long


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Yea if they ever do another section such as Inver to Glenties I wouldn’t recommend they do it this way. Far too slow and disruptive. Just build a new offline route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I think CPO cost minimisation was picked over any other practicality here.

    On D-C there's only one offline section of any note really. The total pavement reconstruction, widening and minor alignment changes will all be a huge help but not to the extent that a new offline route would have been.

    L-K has a lot of beside-the-line works which I suspect will also lead to huge one way systems later on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    Been a while since there's been a post here.

    The Dungloe to Cloghbolie section of this scheme is coming along very well recently.

    About 3km (out of 7km) of this is now completed with final surfacing and lines.

    The longest traffic light on this section at the Doochary junction has now been removed. 3 temporary traffic lights remain on this.

    The remaining parts look like they are coming along well too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I've to head up in a week or so, and got badly caught for time last time by those lights, so that's handy

    Anyone know how bad the section between Glenties and Maas is these days?



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    Sorry for the slow reply.


    Currently, the section between Glenties and Maas is at a much earlier stage of construction so driving through it can be slow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Trips on Thursday. I'll give myself plenty of time

    One bad dark red traffic patch showing on Google Maps right now; and another at the lake outside Dungloe.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Bit frustrating how incredibly long the whole Dungloe-Glenties project will take. Considering that many other parts of the N56 need the same treatment.

    We'd be decades doing it all at this rate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    Yes, so the red traffic patch just outside Dungloe town is the slowest part on that section of roadworks at the moment, there is 4 roads there with traffic lights (2 on the main road and both minor roads) there at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    So, on Dungloe to Cloghbolie on Thursday - from pretty much everything except one offline section is done or near done. Section at the lake had absolutely nobody working on it but still unfinished / stop-go in place.

    Between Glenties and Maas is still hugely disrupted and its hard to see what's been done in five months!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Do we have any idea when Letterilly to Kilraine (Phase 2) will start?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,562 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Wills site office signs up on that side of Glenties but absolutely no obvious works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭dollylama


    I don't believe Phase 2 ever went out to tender?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭ernestcooke91


    Some good news to report.


    The last section of the Dungloe to Cloghbolie scheme has been opened to traffic earlier today.


    All traffic lights for these roadworks have been removed for the Christmas holiday period.



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