MotoGP, Superbikes and Road Racing 2021

Infoanon · 03-12-2020 10:58pm

Scotty # wrote: »

Marquez has had an 11 HOUR operation to fix the arm. 6 month recovery.

Scotty well done on that scoop - nothing on the official channels at the moment.

Operation was rumoured for this week but it was just that a rumour.
The seriousness of the original injury is still shrouded in secrecy but the blame game has been in full swing for the last two weeks.
If the other rumours are true then Dovi will be MM replacement for the first half of the season.

Infoanon · 03-12-2020 11:31pm

Honda have now released a statement that Marc had an 8 hour operation describing it as "uneventful ".

A new plate has been fitted and a iliac crest bone graft.

It looks like there was a media embargo in place until midnight EET ie 10pm Irish time.

CJhaughey · 04-12-2020 1:36pm

I'd like to see Michael Laverty get a chance in the commentary booth alongside Neil Spalding. I wonder if that pairing would be a bit flat though?
I always liked Julian Ryder, but he has stepped back as well, that said I enjoyed him covering the WEC stuff, he is great for stats.
I do think its great to have a technical expert like Neil Spalding on the panel. It would be great if you had a mix of Ryder, Huewen, Spalding and Laverty all commentating on different races.

Magown3 · 04-12-2020 3:04pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

I'd like to see Michael Laverty get a chance in the commentary booth alongside Neil Spalding. I wonder if that pairing would be a bit flat though?
I always liked Julian Ryder, but he has stepped back as well, that said I enjoyed him covering the WEC stuff, he is great for stats.
I do think its great to have a technical expert like Neil Spalding on the panel. It would be great if you had a mix of Ryder, Huewen, Spalding and Laverty all commentating on different races.

Is Spalding a new addition to the BT coverage? I watch the races on the Videopass but I do like Spalding's explanations of everything technical within MotoGP.

For me, the best coverage of MotoGP that there ever was was on Eurosport, Toby and Julian on the mic's, Randy in the pit lane getting all the juice and Spalding explaining anything technical... Dream team right there.

Scotty # · 04-12-2020 4:38pm

Magown3 wrote: »

Is Spalding a new addition to the BT coverage?

For me, the best coverage of MotoGP that there ever was was on Eurosport, Toby and Julian on the mic's, Randy in the pit lane getting all the juice and Spalding explaining anything technical... Dream team right there.

Keith Huewen has left BT Sport but I don't think they've said who'll replace him yet.

Michael Laverty has been excellent on BT Sport. He's really really good at explaining the more technical stuff - much better than Colin Edwards.

Infoanon · 05-12-2020 1:33pm

Marquez has appeared on Spanish television and has admitted that returning at Jerez was a mistake BUT was with the Doctors saying that he was fit to ride.

Marc went on to say that if he knew there was a risk of the plate breaking he would not have rode,specifically saying the break happened at home as a result of riding in Jerez.

Honda have also come out and said that they did not want Marc to ride.

No further news on Marcs recovery is expected for at least 3 weeks.

h3000 · 05-12-2020 2:12pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Marquez has appeared on Spanish television and has admitted that returning at Jerez was a mistake BUT was with the Doctors saying that he was fit to ride.

Marc went on to say that if he knew there was a risk of the plate breaking he would not have rode,specifically saying the break happened at home as a result of riding in Jerez.

Honda have also come out and said that they did not want Marc to ride.

No further news on Marcs recovery is expected for at least 3 weeks.

I was reading someone’s tweet the other day (I can’t remember who) but they said that the MotoGP doctors pass riders fit or not on how the riders condition will affect other riders and if they can handle the bike safely. They do not pass them fit or not on the basis of how it will affect their recovery times and or prospects.

I wonder who actually did pass him fit? Should Honda have stopped him? Yes, I think so. I wonder is he taking any personal responsibility on this?

Infoanon · 05-12-2020 3:14pm

And who encouraged him to do press ups and lift weights for a video that was then uploaded....

Think we all hope that Marc makes a full recovery and returns later in 2021 or at the start of 2022 fully race fit.

Pasteur. · 08-12-2020 10:47am

Surely he's going to be risk averse if and when he gets back

The risk of reinjuring his arm

CJhaughey · 08-12-2020 12:07pm

Pasteur. wrote: »

Surely he's going to be risk averse if and when he gets back

The risk of reinjuring his arm

I don't think Marc Marquez has Risk Averse programming in him.
If he did he wouldn't be where he is now.

Scotty # · 08-12-2020 1:32pm

He'll be on €500K per week when his new contract kicks in. I wonder what's the story with sick pay?

Infoanon wrote: »

Honda have also come out and said that they did not want Marc to ride.

I don't believe them!

Pasteur. · 08-12-2020 8:36pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

I don't think Marc Marquez has Risk Averse programming in him.
If he did he wouldn't be where he is now.

Up to now but will he be conscious of the consequences of reinjuring himsrlf

h3000 · 08-12-2020 8:43pm

Pasteur. wrote: »

Up to now but will he be conscious of the consequences of reinjuring himsrlf

I don’t think so. Those type of people just think differently from most of us. I think he will be the same Marc that he always has been. It may take him a while to get back to the sharpness he was though.

CJhaughey · 09-12-2020 10:18am

Top level racers don't think like an average rider, that's why they are top level.
During a course of a season, many riders are riding injured, its just part of the job.
Those riders don't go slower unless the injury physically affects movement in general terms.
They compartmentalise pain into a part of the psyche that doesn't affect their ability to ride.
History is littered with riders that have ridden with injuries that would put most people into a bed.

Rossi in 2010 had an open fracture of his leg in Mugello, Bone sticking out the skin. just over a month later he was back and finished 4th
Edwards in 2011 broke his collarbone and podium finished the next race
Stoner in 2012 smashed his ankle and placed 4th
Lorenzo in Assen 2013 broke his collarbone in practice, got it plated and came back to race and placed 5th.
Michael Dunlop last year had crutches to get around the paddock after a broken pelvis two weeks before.

These guys are not like you or me, they are gladiators, make no mistake they can and will endure stuff that would make many faint.

Scotty # · 09-12-2020 11:37am

They also have access to pain relief medication that you are I wouldn't be offered. But I do agree with your point.

Pasteur. · 09-12-2020 11:47am

Was a comment I spotted on crash.net

Just wondered would it cause hesitancy, I guess not

I saw some of the road/ short circuit racers say they only give it 90% on the road

CJhaughey · 09-12-2020 12:03pm

Pasteur. wrote: »

Was a comment I spotted on crash.net

Just wondered would it cause hesitancy, I guess not

I saw some of the road/ short circuit racers say they only give it 90% on the road

Road racing is completely different to short circuit, circuits don't have road furniture which poses a risk to a rider so they have to manage it differently.

Its almost a different discipline entirely.

I remember hearing an interview with J.Rea about it and how he never did roads because it was so different and dangerous even though his grandad had Rea Racing who had Joey Dunlop as a rider.

Pasteur. · 09-12-2020 12:09pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

Road racing is completely different to short circuit, circuits don't have road furniture which poses a risk to a rider so they have to manage it differently.

Its almost a different discipline entirely.

I remember hearing an interview with J.Rea about it and how he never did roads because it was so different and dangerous even though his grandad had Rea Racing who had Joey Dunlop as a rider.

Ya his father was a road racer and the Irwin's dad alan

Pasteur. · 09-12-2020 12:11pm

And of course Michael Dunlop doesn't hold back on the road in spite of the furniture

Infoanon · 09-12-2020 12:30pm

Interesting story coming out that a replacement rider ride was discussed by Honda with Cal Crutchlow .

The idea was that Cal would be available for Moto GP and WSBK.

Cal turned it down as he felt he could end up racing all season.

It's well known that Honda want Bradl to get back testing exclusively ,the fact they are discussing replacement rider rides would possibly be indicative of Marc being unavailable at the start of the 2021 season.

Scotty # · 09-12-2020 1:07pm

No Brno GP in 2021. The track needs maintenance and with no ticket money coming in they've decided to withdraw from the calendar.

I can see this happing in a few places. Football clubs etc must really be under pressure!

Beltby · 09-12-2020 2:03pm

Scotty # wrote: »

No Brno GP in 2021. The track needs maintenance and with no ticket money coming in they've decided to withdraw from the calendar.

I can see this happing in a few places. Football clubs etc must really be under pressure!

We might have Portimao next year so. Me and my mates were discussing it, and Portugal would make a nice change from Silverstone.

Infoanon · 09-12-2020 3:05pm

Beltby wrote: »

We might have Portimao next year so. Me and my mates were discussing it, and Portugal would make a nice change from Silverstone.

Brno is probably the best track I have been to - tv does not do it justice - the last corner is banked which never comes across on TV.

Portimao would be a good replacement but Moto GP needs Brno

Infoanon · 10-12-2020 10:53pm

First pictures of Luca MarinIs Moto GP Ducati have just been released - the bike is in full VR46 livery with Sky sponsorship.

Considering Tito brought the Hublot sponsorship it's unclear what Colours the other Esponsorama (Avintia ) Ducati will appear in their final season.

Scotty # · 05-01-2021 5:06pm

I get that riders have their branding etc but could he not have created more contrast between his number and the bike with a darker border maybe? It's a bit lost isn't it?

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Still no word on who'll be replacing Marc.

h3000 · 06-01-2021 7:42pm

This is fairly big news.
https://twitter.com/denkmit/status/1346882066902822914

Infoanon · 06-01-2021 7:53pm

h3000 wrote: »

This is fairly big news.
https://twitter.com/denkmit/status/1346882066902822914

Confirmed? - it's been a rumour for a few days

Ramifications for Suzuki and potentially the satellite team (rumoured to be VR46 given Brivio and Rossis previous alliances) will be interesting

h3000 · 06-01-2021 8:02pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Confirmed? - it's been a rumour for a few days

Ramifications for Suzuki and potentially the satellite team (rumoured to be VR46 given Brivio and Rossis previous alliances) will be interesting

Not confirmed. I didn’t mean to suggest so but there seems to be a lot of people I’d normally listen to talking about it. Interesting times.

It’s said to be confirmed tomorrow.

h3000 · 07-01-2021 10:07am

Infoanon wrote: »

Confirmed? - it's been a rumour for a few days

Ramifications for Suzuki and potentially the satellite team (rumoured to be VR46 given Brivio and Rossis previous alliances) will be interesting

h3000 wrote: »

Not confirmed. I didn’t mean to suggest so but there seems to be a lot of people I’d normally listen to talking about it. Interesting times.

It’s said to be confirmed tomorrow.

He is off alright
https://twitter.com/suzukimotogp/status/1347091685470334976?s=20

h3000 · 12-01-2021 5:25pm

Sepang test cancelled due to Covid

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/01/12/february-sepang-tests-cancelled/360218

Infoanon · 12-01-2021 5:32pm

h3000 wrote: »

Sepang test cancelled due to Covid

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/01/12/february-sepang-tests-cancelled/360218

In fairness to Moto GP they have always said the 2021 calendar was a moveable feast and would change (unlike other motor sports....).

Looking at the proposed first two months of the calendar it's very hard to see those races especially Argentina and COTA taking place so early European rounds may get the go ahead subject to the no fans conundrum.

Any delays to the season of course do play into MM hands as his recovery from injury continues.

Better news on Faustino Gresini who thankfully appears to be very slowly recovering from Covid and is now concious after being in an induced coma.

h3000 · 12-01-2021 6:11pm

Infoanon wrote: »

In fairness to Moto GP they have always said the 2021 calendar was a moveable feast and would change (unlike other motor sports....).

Looking at the proposed first two months of the calendar it's very hard to see those races especially Argentina and COTA taking place so early European rounds may get the go ahead subject to the no fans conundrum.

Any delays to the season of course do play into MM hands as his recovery from injury continues.

Certainly interesting times ahead. MotoGP seem to be rightly as responsible as they can reasonably be. As you said it could work for Marc

Infoanon wrote: »

Better news on Faustino Gresini who thankfully appears to be very slowly recovering from Covid and is now concious after being in an induced coma.

Good news. Fingers crossed for him.

Scotty # · 22-01-2021 5:32pm

2021 Calendar updated...

LATEST 2021 CALENDAR
28 March Qatar – Losail
4 April Qatar – Losail
18 April Portugal – Portimao
2 May – Spain – Jerez
16 May France – Le Mans
30 May Italy – Mugello
6 June Catalunya – Barcelona
20 June Germany – Sachsenring
27 June Netherlands – Assen
11 July Finland – KymiRing
15 August Austria – Red Bull Ring
29 August Great Britain – Silverstone
12 September Aragon
19 September San Marino – Misano
3 October Japan – Motegi
10 October Thailand – Chang International
24 October Australia – Phillip Island
31 October Malaysia – Sepang
14 November Valencia

Reserve: Indonesia (Mandalika)
Postponed indefinitely: USA (Austin), Argentina (Termas de Rio Hondo)

I'm sure safety and layout doesn't allow for it but wouldn't it be fun to see double headers run the opposite way on the second week?

Beltby · 22-01-2021 7:41pm

We were hoping for Portimao to be included later in the year. Looks like we'll be going to Silverstone again, covid permitting.

Scotty # · 01-02-2021 10:30am

Well, this is a change of heart...

"If the call comes, he's ready" - Dovizioso waiting on HRC
According to his manager, Simone Battistella, Andrea Dovizioso is primed and ready to replace the injured Marc Marquez at Repsol Honda.

Not so long ago it was 'under no circumstances...'

https://www.motogp.com/en/in+the+media/2021/01/26/if-the-call-comes-he-s-ready-dovizioso-waiting-on-hrc/360508

Scotty # · 15-02-2021 10:46am

Yamaha's 2021 launch on live now on YT... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG9sEGEpIV4&ab_channel=MotoGP

Loving the new Tech3 colours also....

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Scotty # · 15-02-2021 11:04am

OMG... Yamaha's live launch is a total cringefest!!! I've never seen people look so awkward on TV and the compere is utter rubbish. If they were going to do the show in English why not use an English speaker?

Frank Bullitt · 22-02-2021 11:08pm

Fasuto Gresini has passed away in Italy. Terribly sad news.

Magown3 · 22-02-2021 11:48pm

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Fasuto Gresini has passed away in Italy. Terribly sad news.

According to tweets from Gresini Racing Team he actually HASN'T passed away.

Confusing. Hopefully he pulls thru but doesn't look good.

Frank Bullitt · 23-02-2021 1:21am

https://twitter.com/GresiniRacing/status/1363977661127806978

just saw this, I hope he pulls through!

Infoanon · 23-02-2021 11:32am

Very sad news today that Fausto Gresini has passed.

A double world champion and founder of the team 'Gresini'.

Success across all classes including championship wins with the late Daijiro Kate, Tony Elias and Jorge Martin.

Moto GP wins and podiums with Sete Giberneau ,Marco Melandri,the late Marco SimoncellI , Kate and Elias all aboard their Gresini Hondas.

Fausto Gresini RIP

h3000 · 23-02-2021 12:54pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Very sad news today that Fausto Gresini has passed.

A double world champion and founder of the team 'Gresini'.

Success across all classes including championship wins with the late Daijiro Kate, Tony Elias and Jorge Martin.

Moto GP wins and podiums with Sete Giberneau ,Marco Melandri,the late Marco SimoncellI , Kate and Elias all aboard their Gresini Hondas.

Fausto Gresini RIP

Sad news. RIP

Infoanon · 04-03-2021 10:07pm

The Aprilla Moto GP launch took place earlier this afternoon and included a tribute to Fausto Gresini. Faustos name is on the aerofoils on the front aeros.

Tomorrow, March 5th sees the Moto GP rookies and test riders take to the track for the first time with all riders on track from Saturday.

Looking forward to an early indication of pace - KTMS claim that they have not produced a big bang engine is being dismissed by a number of respected commentators......

In other news Hungary have signed a contract to host Moto GP from 2023.

Scotty # · 08-03-2021 11:11pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Looking forward to an early indication of pace...

Aprilia seem to be doing well. Aleix 2nd highest avg lap time over the whole test. Vinales fastest.

Marc Marquez still not ruled out for Qatar start!

Scotty # · 12-03-2021 9:16pm

Day 4 highlights. Morbidelli still faster than Quartararo.

Anyone know who the reporter is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hORqcF0wDOs

Scotty # · 16-03-2021 1:27pm

Marc getting some pre season warm up laps in on the road version of his race bike.

I'd love to see him back for the start of the season but not unless he is 100.00%

https://twitter.com/HRC_MotoGP/status/1371781217713012737

Scotty # · 16-03-2021 4:39pm

So apparently Marc had a flying visit to Qatar yesterday to get his covid vaccine.

Speedline · 16-03-2021 6:00pm

Scotty # wrote: »

So apparently Marc had a flying visit to Qatar yesterday to get his covid vaccine.

I'd do it myself if I could. He's right.

h3000 · 17-03-2021 3:21pm

I wonder how this will develop 🤔🤔
https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1372174200660766722

Scotty # · 20-03-2021 10:00am

h3000 wrote: »

I wonder how this will develop 🤔🤔

Yea it's a strange one. Aprilia already have a surplus of riders. I wonder how Smith and Savadori feel about it?

Can't see him back in 2021, maybe he's doing it with a view to 2022. Surely the's too old for that?

MotoGP, Superbikes and Road Racing 2021

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