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Enda Kenny compromised in leak of Facebook court case documents

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  • 02-03-2019 10:49pm
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    Inquitus
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    This is probably not going to do us any favours, if true.
    The memo notes Kenny’s “appreciation” for Facebook’s decision to locate its headquarters in Dublin and points out that the new proposed data protection legislation was a “threat to jobs, innovation and economic growth in Europe”. It then goes on to say that Ireland is poised to take on the presidency of the EU and therefore has the “opportunity to influence the European Data Directive decisions”. It makes the extraordinary claim that Kenny offered to use the “significant influence” of the EU presidency as a means of influencing other EU member states “even though technically Ireland is supposed to remain neutral in this role”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/02/facebook-global-lobbying-campaign-against-data-privacy-laws-investment


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    oscarBravo
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    Meh. I think it's fair to say that GDPR wasn't exactly influenced in Facebook's favour.


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    hmmm
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    If true, well done Enda. Lots of high paying jobs are more than welcome, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to come live in the real world.


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    Inquitus
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    Aye I don't disagree with his motives, but not the best reflection on us now it's out there!


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    Allinall
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    This is probably not going to do us any favours, if true.




    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/02/facebook-global-lobbying-campaign-against-data-privacy-laws-investment

    Curious as to why you think it won’t do us any favours?

    Also curious as to what favours we might have got if Enda hadn’t said what he did.


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    odyssey06
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    So Kenny is either a liar (to Facebook) or fool (in that he couldn't deliver on his unethical promises).
    Makes us look bad to Facebook and to the EU. Great job.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    Inquitus
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    Allinall wrote: »
    Curious as to why you think it won’t do us any favours?

    Also curious as to what favours we might have got if Enda hadn’t said what he did.

    It doesn't look good to our EU partners if we are promising to abuse our position in the rotating EU presidency to assist Facebook in lobbying against proposed laws that impact their business negatively.


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    prawnsambo
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    So Kenny is either a liar (to Facebook) or fool (in that he couldn't deliver on his unethical promises).
    Makes us look bad to Facebook and to the EU. Great job.
    Yeah, sounds like Enda was telling Facebook what they wanted to hear.


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    Hector Mildew
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Yeah, sounds like Enda was telling Facebook what they wanted to hear.


    Yeah, sounds like he was playing their game...



    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/01/facebook_teentracking_app/


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    Infini
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    One thing to note though is that this looks to be back in 2013/4 prior to the emergence of the more seriously negative effects of Cancer Media. That wouldnt fly now in no small part due to the Russian interference around Brexit, President Troll and CA.


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    WoollyRedHat
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    hmmm wrote: »
    If true, well done Enda. Lots of high paying jobs are more than welcome, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to come live in the real world.

    Do you think that's a viable strategy to abuse your position in EU for the gain of a minority? Very short term thinking.. Where do you draw the line?


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    prawnsambo
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    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Do you think that's a viable strategy to abuse your position in EU for the gain of a minority? Very short term thinking.. Where do you draw the line?
    There was a lot of concern about the data protection legislation in its earliest manifestations. It did not have a lot of support and was seen as delivering unforeseen consequences. So it wouldn't have been surprising at the time that the government might be against it. But that was then.


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    WoollyRedHat
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    There was a lot of concern about the data protection legislation in its earliest manifestations. It did not have a lot of support and was seen as delivering unforeseen consequences. So it wouldn't have been surprising at the time that the government might be against it. But that was then.

    Agreed, now it looks shady.


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    prawnsambo
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    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Agreed, now it looks shady.
    Yeah. But you have to look at it in a certain way to make it look that way. Hindsight being a bit myopic in that regard.


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    hmmm
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    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Do you think that's a viable strategy to abuse your position in EU for the gain of a minority? Very short term thinking.. Where do you draw the line?
    What's wrong with taking a pro business line when laws are being negotiated ? Ye'd be complaining if we had 20% unemployment.


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    odyssey06
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    hmmm wrote: »
    What's wrong with taking a pro business line when laws are being negotiated ? Ye'd be complaining if we had 20% unemployment.

    Nothing... but thats not what he did. He was trying to pull off a two faced position and now he has been found out. Either he lied to facebook or he abused his position in europe. It shows him up as a liar or inept or both.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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