Dole needlessly raised

Kermit.de.frog · 22-03-2019 5:48pm

Thinly veiled dole thread.

end of the road · 22-03-2019 5:51pm

best get in before the lock

aaronjumper · 22-03-2019 5:52pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Thinly veiled dole thread.

Why are we not allowed to criticise the Dole?

James Brown · 22-03-2019 5:52pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Thinly veiled dole thread.

Yale could use another Dole thread!

Hector Savage · 22-03-2019 5:55pm

Get out of here!!

I'm not made of airports!!

James Brown · 22-03-2019 5:56pm

aaronjumper wrote: »

Why are we not allowed to criticise the Dole?

Censorship from the libtard SJW snowflakes isn't it?
Or maybe it's tired and there are many already?
Or gets populated by FG'ers angry at FG for their lot and looking to blame the sick and poor?
Take a pick

aaronjumper · 22-03-2019 5:57pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Censorship from the libtard SJW snowflakes isn't it?
Or maybe it's tired and there are many already?
Or gets populated by FG'ers angry at FG for their lot and looking to blame the sick and poor?
Take a pick

I wasn't being serious. The Dole thanks you.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 22-03-2019 5:58pm

Lower all social welfare payments by 15%. Ring-fence that money and put it into social and affordable housing. That would benefit society much more.

James Brown · 22-03-2019 5:58pm

aaronjumper wrote: »

I wasn't being serious. The Dole thanks you.

He prefers 'Bob'.

James Brown · 22-03-2019 5:59pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Lower all social welfare payments by 15%. Ring-fence that money and put it into social and affordable housing. That would benefit society much more.

What about poor and sick people who have a home?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-03-2019 6:02pm

aaronjumper wrote: »

Why are we not allowed to criticise the Dole?

Because Bob worked tirelessly for 30+ yrs for the good people of Kansas.

Gave every blood sweat and tear to the job.

He would've been President too if the Clinton mob hadn't rigged the election in collusion with the Cubans.

aaronjumper · 22-03-2019 6:03pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Lower all social welfare payments by 15%. Ring-fence that money and put it into social and affordable housing.
That would benefit society much more.

How about we lower it by 15%, put a fence around the money and let everyone fight for it.
Hunger Games meets WWE.

That archery training will finally have a use.

Force Carrier · 22-03-2019 6:03pm

Omackeral · 22-03-2019 6:04pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

He prefers 'Bob'.

Bob Dole. Bob Dole. Bob Dole. Bob Dole. Bob Dole.

Omackeral · 22-03-2019 6:06pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Because Bob worked tirelessly for 30+ yrs for the good people of Kansas.

Gave every blood sweat and tear to the job.

He would've been President too if the Clinton mob hadn't rigged the election in collusion with the Cubans.

Absolute revisionist bullsh*t. All Bob dole cared about was abortions for some and miniature American flags for others.

wyf437gn6btzue · 22-03-2019 6:15pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Lower all social welfare payments by 15%

good luck with that, the high majority of the professional protestors you see picketing for free public everything are also professionally unemployed who blame the bankers and government for everything and think throwing more money at **** public services and taxing the rich is the solution the housing crisis

the day that gets passed is the day pigs fly

lawred2 · 22-03-2019 6:17pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

What about poor and sick people who have a home?

They are doing better than those poor and sick people that don't have a home

pleas advice · 22-03-2019 6:17pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

What about poor and sick people who have a home?

they'll be given cushy jobs

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 22-03-2019 6:24pm

pleas advice wrote: »

they'll be given cushy jobs

In social welfare offices giving out dole payments?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 22-03-2019 6:25pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

What about poor and sick people who have a home?

They'll be given a 2kg block of cheese every 3 months.

zell12 · 22-03-2019 6:27pm

I love Dole pineapples

RobbingBandit · 22-03-2019 6:32pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

They'll be given a 2kg block of cheese every 3 months.

How about 3kg every 2 months and some tea.

Ah Tea party

_Brian · 22-03-2019 6:33pm

Raising the SW payment is fine, it’s the length of time that people are allowed lounge around on it the problem is.

kneemos · 22-03-2019 6:54pm

Dunno why people are down on the sole. Pensions are a much bigger expense.

SEPT 23 1989 · 22-03-2019 7:05pm

I wouldn't let people living on a couple of hundred euro a week spoil my weekend

Mrs OBumble · 22-03-2019 7:42pm

lawred2 wrote: »

They are doing better than those poor and sick people that don't have a home

Nope, not necessarily. They likely have mortgages to pay, which the dole doesn't cover.

Whereas the non home owners ger rent allowance or HAP on top of the dole.

Viscount Aggro · 24-03-2019 10:24am

I know someone who chooses not to work.
She has a council flat, 30 seconds walk from St Stephen's Green.
Has a trained skill, and could work in the morning, but will not.

MFPM · 24-03-2019 10:27am

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Lower all social welfare payments by 15%. Ring-fence that money and put it into social and affordable housing. That would benefit society much more.

Or raise corportaion tax, introdcue a wealth tax, abolish tax incentives on REITs but yeah let's target those on very very low incomes for the 'benefit' of society.:rolleyes:

Wanderer78 · 24-03-2019 10:27am

Viscount Aggro wrote:

I know someone who chooses not to work. She has a council flat, 30 seconds walk from St Stephen's Green. Has a trained skill, and could work in the morning, but will not.

So what's the problem?

LessOutragePlz · 24-03-2019 10:27am

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

I know someone who chooses not to work.
She has a council flat, 30 seconds walk from St Stephen's Green.
Has a trained skill, and could work in the morning, but will not.

Apparently everyone on boards knows someone that "chooses" to be on the dole.

I'm sure it's a very fulfilling life sitting at home all day doing nothing, would love to do it myself.

LuasSimon · 24-03-2019 10:28am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I wouldn't let people living on a couple of hundred euro a week spoil my weekend

You should call to a local halting site and see how much a couple with 8 kids pullin annually ..

The real problem is they never will or have done a days work and laugh about it ....I’ve no bother with someone who worked for 10 years who can’t get a job ...travellers are making up close on 40% of the welfare bill..

Wanderer78 · 24-03-2019 10:28am

MFPM wrote:

Or raise corportaion tax, introdcue a wealth tax, abolish tax incentives on REITs but yeah let's target those on very very low incomes for the 'benefit' of society.

This would interfere with project 'trickle down'!

ToddyDoody · 24-03-2019 10:31am

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I'm sure it's a very fulfilling life sitting at home all day doing nothing, would love to do it myself.

It's a bit like being an arts student.

Paddy Cow · 24-03-2019 10:32am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I wouldn't let people living on a couple of hundred euro a week spoil my weekend

It's not people on a couple of hundred a week who are the problem, it's people who play the system long term. They work just enough hours part time to keep the dole/HAP/fuel allowance/FIS/whatever else while waiting on the list to get a forever home, so they end up with more money than someone working full time who gets no assistance. There is no incentive for them to give up all the benefits and work full time.

24-03-2019 10:35am

Round everyone on the dole up and put them in work camps. As soon as you lose or quit your job, bam, work camp. Forever. And blare messages all day telling them they're worthless. And feed them stale bread twice a day.

Wanderer78 · 24-03-2019 10:36am

Paddy Cow wrote:

It's not people on a couple of hundred a week who are the problem, it's people who play the system long term. They work just enough hours part time to keep the dole/HAP/fuel allowance/FIS/whatever else while waiting on the list to get a forever home, so they end up with more money than someone working full time who gets no assistance. There is no incentive for them to give up all the benefits and work full time.

Maybe the problem is more so with the facts that wage inflation has remained low compared to rapidly rising asset prices, in particular housing, just maybe!

LessOutragePlz · 24-03-2019 10:36am

LuasSimon wrote: »

travellers are making up close on 40% of the welfare bill..

Have you got a statistic or source to back up that claim?

We're spending €3.19 billion on social protection in the form of income supports this year so travellers are costing the state €1.276 billion in social welfare?

Hahaha yeah right if you're gonna bash travellers at least use some accurate statistics!

LessOutragePlz · 24-03-2019 11:47am

ToddyDoody wrote: »

It's a bit like being an arts student.

Wow as an arts student this severely triggers me and I am greatly offended by your statement!

ToddyDoody · 24-03-2019 11:56am

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Wow as an arts student this severely triggers me and I am greatly offended by your statement!

Apologies. I just remember living with arts students and one non-student and not knowing the difference until months later.

Mrs OBumble · 24-03-2019 1:52pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Wow as an arts student this severely triggers me and I am greatly offended by your statement!

Imagine how you're going to feel if you ever get a job and your boss expects you to actually do some work!

cannotlogin · 25-03-2019 1:13am

Why is the dole payment rate not linked to the unemployment rate?

When we are near full employment and it's almost impossible not to get a job, if you are looking, it should be cut to encourage people to get a job.

Strumms · 25-03-2019 1:42am

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

I know someone who chooses not to work.

This is the issue. People who are able bodied, healthy and able to work and will not. NOT people who have become ill, have loans, bills, possibly young mouths to feed and other natural expenses while in recovery.

end of the road · 25-03-2019 1:54am

cannotlogin wrote: »

Why is the dole payment rate not linked to the unemployment rate?

When we are near full employment and it's almost impossible not to get a job, if you are looking, it should be cut to encourage people to get a job.

the problem is that cutting it doesn't seem to encourage people to get a job. it just makes the genuine worse off. those who want to work will work whatever the dole rate.

TCM · 25-03-2019 1:57am

Matt Barrett wrote:

What about poor and sick people who have a home?

Stop now. Don't be asking sensible questions.

kowloon · 25-03-2019 5:27am

bluewolf wrote: »

Round everyone on the dole up and put them in work camps. As soon as you lose or quit your job, bam, work camp. Forever. And blare messages all day telling them they're worthless. And feed them stale bread twice a day.

Finally, we'll have a workforce to build that eight-lane motorway into the middle of Clare.

Annasopra · 25-03-2019 8:33am

bluewolf wrote: »

Round everyone on the dole up and put them in work camps. As soon as you lose or quit your job, bam, work camp. Forever. And blare messages all day telling them they're worthless. And feed them stale bread twice a day.

Its work camp. Yay they need striped jackwts too.

Paddy Cow · 25-03-2019 10:21am

cannotlogin wrote: »

Why is the dole payment rate not linked to the unemployment rate?

When we are near full employment and it's almost impossible not to get a job, if you are looking, it should be cut to encourage people to get a job.

I don't believe we're near full employment, that's the government massaging the figures. If you ever look on JobsIreland, half the vacancies are for Community Employment schemes, which are paid for by the taxpayer. Plus there's all the people doing FAS courses or whatever they're called now. All those people are still effectively getting the dole but because the payment falls under another name, they are taken off the live register.

Zorya · 25-03-2019 4:49pm

Saw this interesting statistic/graph released by the European Commission 15/03/19

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D174zyhX0AEvkRq.jpg

Edit - based on GDP not GNI, which some say is misleading re Ireland. But still....

Dole needlessly raised

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