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Weather Forum Zero Tolerance Policy

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  • #102
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Well, to be fair, nothing much has happened in the way of unpleasantness in the past week to account for Wolfie leaving!

    Must be for a completely different reason?

    That's out of the blue alright. Must be some explanation. Huge loss to this site.


  • #103
    mickger844posts
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    Wolfie had made some great contributions since his return to the forum after his self imposed hiatus to Irish Weather Online. Seems strange to close an account altogether without warning or a goodbye. The lack of cold this Winter is messing with peoples minds i think ;)


  • #104
    redsteveireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    This doesn't seem to be working. There is still alot of rubbish being posted. It's a shame, the weather forum is the reason I joined Boards but I've been put off it recently.


  • #105
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    mickger844posts wrote: »
    Wolfie had made some great contributions since his return to the forum after his self imposed hiatus to Irish Weather Online. Seems strange to close an account altogether without warning or a goodbye. The lack of cold this Winter is messing with peoples minds i think ;)

    Maybe Irish Weather Online is making a comeback? :)

    I miss that site.


  • #106
    Spindle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Spindle


    Although I don't post much on the weather forum, I did like it here, good technical discussions about the weather, some banter, and good insight into how to read models.

    I am sure nobody will notice as I slip out the door but, like all good things it must come to an end. It was fun, looking for the next storm, will it snow, will it ever be sunny, this model is better than your model, but now I think it is time to let go, the forum has changed, no longer fun, entertaining or informative, as normal ruined for everyone by the minority.

    Good luck with zero tolerance.


  • #107
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    I saw it posted in one thread that there are people with egos, referring to the people who actually who know what they are talking about, we all know the people we like to see posting because of their quality over quantity of posts, so here is my opinion.

    I have posted on this forum for a while now, there are people who have contributed to this forum for a long time and have a good read of what the charts are saying. I look at the charts and I get an idea of what they are saying will likely be or predicted to be the weather.
    However I would not start a topic on it as I know there are others whose knowledge is far greater and if it is worth doing a topic about it, they will do a topic on it.
    Sometimes they are wrong, but at least they go into detail as to what the charts were telling them at a particular time and use more than one of the weather model forecasts and use other sources of information to build up their case.

    No offense to any of the newer posters here, some are fine, some are too over enthusiastic when it comes to snow and hardship in my opinion but and this is important, there are poeple on this forum whose word is far more valued than others, who do quality rather than quantity when it comes to posts.
    I don't post a lot as I believe quality is better than quantity and even at that I would not say I post quality posts, but I read this forum a lot and there is a lot of rubbish posted at times.


  • #108
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Just a suggestion which the mods may or may not go with.....

    There is a lot of dissatisfaction apparent in several threads with recent postings. There is no consistency to the complaints really - some complain of irrelevant posting, some complain of being patronised, etc, etc, etc. I'm not going into the rights and wrongs of it. Suffice it to say several of the very best posters on here in terms of knowledge are leaving, have left or seem like they are thinking of leaving / pearing back. That's no good.

    Thankfully the present model guidance suggests there is cold weather a week away. Fingers crossed. If so its going to get busier around here as the week goes on. At the moment there are at least 4 threads you could reasonably use about the potential for snow next weekend. Its confusing me and I doubt I'm alone.

    How about the Mods set up 2 threads now. I think you've done something similiar before. The first should be something like - "Late Jan / Early Feb cold spell - forecast discussion only". The second should be ""Late Jan / Early Feb cold spell - general discussion". That way people can choose where, and at what level, they post. I think it will also lead to less loses of temper and consequent fights. Moreover it will allow those of us that know nowt (me) but want to hear from the well known and knowlegdeable posters here (MTC, Su Campu, Darkman, Deep easterly, Nacho Libre, Harps, Redsunset, maquiladora, blackius, villain, mickyger..., iancarn29, etc, etc, you know who you are) to do so without having to read about irrelevant matters whilst those who want to have a chat about both weather and other matters tangental to weather can do so, without being given out to, in the chat forum.

    To be honest the lack of posting here today, with the models as interesting as they are, is not indicative of a healthy forum. This might help.

    I have no idea why Wolfire hung up his weather charts this week. Very very big loss. Maybe it was coincidental. All I know is this forum can little afford to lose posters of that calibre.

    Any thoughts?


  • #109
    garyha
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭garyha


    Agreed, the place is a mess. I think people may be fatigued with the non-event for this weekend, the charts are clearly showing something decent from midweek. The thread's should be tidied up and a new one created for next week onwards.
    I have no idea why Wolfire hung up his weather charts this week. Very very big loss.

    Any thoughts?

    I think I know, but i'd most likely get banned for saying it :p


  • #110
    fizzycyst
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭fizzycyst


    I agree Rebel, something needs to be done or the forum will keep going down hill.

    My own interpretation of what happens is that people get really annoyed when something that is forecast doesn't occur. This of course is totally ridiculous, anyone who is a regular here knows that this forum is all about looking at possibilities of what might happen, and it's ok if those forecast possibilities don't always play out. Some people (who aren't even regulars) seem to get pure joy out of coming on here to say "I told ya so", they seem to wallow in pointing out that some possible forecast or another didn't happen as expected, when in reality NOBODY CARES. The people who come here regularly aren't here because they want a definite forecast, but merely because they have some kind of interest in weather of all kinds, and it's a fantastic place to come and see all the input from the experts.

    I'm glad Su is back posting because his input was a real loss when he wasn't here, but I have to say I miss him now as a mod. He was very active and was always on the ball when things went off topic. I didn't actually realise how hard modding this forum was until just before he left, and my eyes have been opened since.


  • #111
    darkman2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Rebel, I think it comes down to a choice - do we want the board like it was this time last year or like it is now? This board is being trolled. They know who they are and they know what they are doing.

    Incidentally I agree with the premise of the OP but I don't agree myself with some hierarchy of posters either. That is not fair IMO. If posters post sensibly, constructively and with respect for others then there are no problems. Nobody here has a problem with criticism. I think everyone welcomes criticism that is constructive and not designed to patronise or demean contributers. When Su Campu, for example, has an issue with one of my posts or I have an issue with his I will debate it with him and charts etc will be posted. That is a very good exercise because rather then diminishing any forecast it makes it better and more solid. And it is interesting and hopefully informative for posters and lurkers. That is the way it should be. Maybe a non weather sticky thread is required or something. It's unfortunate for those who have either just seen this as a fun place to visit or an excellent resource.

    This place was absolutely fine not too long ago. Unfortunately with any forum or board targeted by trolling this is beyond the comprehension of those causing problems.

    Ultimately that just ruins it for everyone and encourages genuine posters to leave.


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  • #112
    Diamond Dust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Diamond Dust


    fizzycyst wrote: »
    Some people (who aren't even regulars) seem to get pure joy out of coming on here to say "I told ya so", they seem to wallow in pointing out that some possible forecast or another didn't happen as expected, when in reality NOBODY CARES.

    Here a long time on boards but not much of a poster and I agree with fizzycyst on the above point, there are 3 members who continue to do the above and are really bringing down the forum. It needs to addressed. No need for this sarcasm and belittling of other members. I love the chit chat be it about mild or cold and cannot understand this carry on at all.

    Rebelbrowser some good ideas there by you and hope something is done and we get back members who were great contributors to the boards!


  • #113
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    The forum is absolutely civilised for 8 months of the year and gets fractious between 1 November and 28 Feb only. Anyone who does not appear to join the snow groupthink gets shouted down or accused of being a public enemy or accused of trolling. And the place is so grim and humourless during those months.

    The Forecast Thread idea is genius Rebelbrowser, select a few of the better forecasts from hither and yon in chat threads, start and copy into a thread with them to kick it off and lock it down to forecasts only.

    Meanwhile every thread is logically a chat thread ...until there is something happening and the forecast thread kicks into action.

    Consensus on when to start a forecast thread is when Su MT, the Mods, Nilhg and a few more of the better forecasters start to see the sameish pattern forming and post their thoughts on it. By consensus I do not mean outright agreement...sure that would be no fun. :)

    Anyway the mods can call it....if it happens.


  • #114
    garyha
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭garyha


    banter is great but think of the context, it's the weather forum in the science category. model discussion threads are being taken over by nonsense, made up facts and that post about "Odds are said to be another Feb 1986, cold and dry." was just ridiculous.

    maybe a breakaway forum called weather banter is what we need and you can go hang out there. people come here every day, a lot of lurkers to see what the models are saying, they don't care about crows and other crap.


  • #115
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    The main problem for me and is VERY annoying, that some people out of nowhere come out with very snobby remarks and tries to take another poster down a notch regarding their views on the upcoming weather events, without ANY proof whatsoever to back up their views on the matter.

    I like a bit of banter between two varying opinions (such as darkman and su), but a lot of new faces lately have just been sticking their head in without any knowledge/proof to back up their claims, and so it just comes out as utter trolls.

    I'm all for a forecast and seperate discussion thread, but tbh I think its harder on the mods as they would have to either keep deleting off topic stuff that belongs in the other thread or moving posts from one place to another. There's always a few who think the same type of discussion is acceptable on both threads.


  • #116
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Mods can delete anything of insufficient quality and unsupported by data and links in a forecast thread, I'd move nothing.

    If a poster does it again in there ban them for a month. Forecast threads, once they exist are for forecasts. Chat threads are for opinions.


  • #117
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    I believe I replied to Su once, asking why not just delete the irrelevant posts!

    While we're here. Whilst I love pictures, too many threads are being invaded with them ~ despite some already having been posted in their 'more' appropriate threads.

    The two different level threads ~ has sort of worked form time to time. The last one though was messed up with cross posting and discussions continuing on both levels in both threads.


  • #118
    wingnut32
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    I have to agree with the OP. As a long time lurker I would check in numerous times a day to see whats going on, and its very frustrating to see the trolling and stupid posts clogging up what should be and has been a source of good information and ideas about upcoming weather events.

    I think maybe Su done something last year with a forecast discussion thread and a seperate chit/chat thread which if my memory serves me correctly worked out pretty well.

    Anyways, Im just a lurker and thats just my two cents on it!:)


  • #119
    eskimocat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    I have been thinking about the athmosphere here on the forum and its hard to tell when the rot set in exactly, however its clear that the majority of people want things to go back to the fun and educational place that it used to be.

    So here are a few suggestions as to how we do that..

    1. Don't feed the throlls...a forum wide agreement to keep our heads and not loose it when these posters start stirring. Thats what feeds them in the first place. Indifference and ignoring are your best weapons, not replying asking them to justify themselves.

    2. To continue to debate, argue and forecast with a tone of respect. I think the guideline of 'question the post not the poster' has gone a bit rusty here. That would hopefully return the forum to a place where fledgling forecasters have a chance to post their attempts at forecasting and engage in constructive debate thus learning from those more knowledgeable.

    3. The 'Will it snow in my back yard ' issue... It seems to me that this particular type of poster seems to reddedn the blood of a few on here. Perhaps we adopt a strategy for dealing with this for the big events as they occur. Something indicated in the thread title that allows for these posters somewhere to post so that those annoyed with these types of posts can avoid :) and those that don't mind can pop in and give their opinion.

    4. We may not agree with each others opinion of a particular weather type, however we can agree that they are entitled to hold that opinion, and that in no way detracts from our right to hold a different opinion.

    5. And finally, a big thank you to all of you who patiently, repeatedly, and generously gave and continue to give of your knowledge and time to make this forum a place for weather lovers of all kinds. Whether your contribution is of valuable education on a chart, or a funny picture or comment, it takes allsorts to make this forum a fun, inviting and friendly place. Let's not loose it......
    Thanks
    Eskimocat


  • #120
    Pangea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    The downfall of this forum is not just down to random posters that blow in and out with the wind so to speak. Such posters don't bother me to much because they don't stick around.
    I think a large part of the downfall of this forum can be attributed to some regular posters on here who have upped the ante big time since the start of winter in order to antagonise anyone looking for snow which I may add is a lot of people.
    Before this winter I thought their posts were worth reading but not anymore..

    Below is a charter which was created a few days ago on the teens and pre teens forum (which is an apt title for some of the behaviour on here)
    Orion wrote:
    Trolls
    What is a troll?
    A troll is a poster who posts in away to try get your goat.

    How will a troll do this?
    By being annoying confrontational and antagonistic and saying it's just that my opinion differs.

    What does a troll want?
    To disrupt a forum and upset the posters who post there.

    Why does a troll do this?

    For kicks, the more worked up you get the more fun a troll thinks it is.
    A successful troll will post something which is not enough to get them banned but the reactions of posters to it will get the poster banned and have posters turn on each other.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76501619

    Seems to me that the successful trolls are sinking deeper into this forum while the people who complain about them are getting infractions or just avoid the forum altogether.
    If we can keep the threads on topic instead of making one big joke of it then we can move forward.


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  • #121
    Lumi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    eskimocat wrote: »
    I have been thinking about the athmosphere here on the forum and its hard to tell when the rot set in exactly, however its clear that the majority of people want things to go back to the fun and educational place that it used to be.

    So here are a few suggestions as to how we do that..

    1. Don't feed the throlls...a forum wide agreement to keep our heads and not loose it when these posters start stirring. Thats what feeds them in the first place. Indifference and ignoring are your best weapons, not replying asking them to justify themselves.

    2. To continue to debate, argue and forecast with a tone of respect. I think the guideline of 'question the post not the poster' has gone a bit rusty here. That would hopefully return the forum to a place where fledgling forecasters have a chance to post their attempts at forecasting and engage in constructive debate thus learning from those more knowledgeable.

    3. The 'Will it snow in my back yard ' issue... It seems to me that this particular type of poster seems to reddedn the blood of a few on here. Perhaps we adopt a strategy for dealing with this for the big events as they occur. Something indicated in the thread title that allows for these posters somewhere to post so that those annoyed with these types of posts can avoid :) and those that don't mind can pop in and give their opinion.

    4. We may not agree with each others opinion of a particular weather type, however we can agree that they are entitled to hold that opinion, and that in no way detracts from our right to hold a different opinion.

    5. And finally, a big thank you to all of you who patiently, repeatedly, and generously gave and continue to give of your knowledge and time to make this forum a place for weather lovers of all kinds. Whether your contribution is of valuable education on a chart, or a funny picture or comment, it takes allsorts to make this forum a fun, inviting and friendly place. Let's not loose it......
    Thanks
    Eskimocat

    Well said Eskimocat!!
    There's not a lot to be added to what you've said except to reinforce your point regarding the trolls who are destroying this forum - ignore them and once they're no longer the centre of attention they'll disappear!

    Tolerance, civility and respect for the views and contributions of others is all that's required to bring this forum back to what it was
    As a long time and once regular poster I really hope it happens. It's a real pity to see something that has given me such pleasure over the years degenerate into this mess!


  • #122
    TheMilkyPirate
    Registered Users Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    It's a shame that most conversation around here has gone from the weather to arguments. I for one would love to see it sorted out soon so we could get back to the weather, Some possibly very exciting times around the corner and all i see is posts about egos and trolls.

    Come on lads we've all had enough of this crap at this stage.


  • #123
    TURRICAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    Something needs to be sorted alright.
    Any hint of trolling should be dealt with a ban straight away. And when they come back from the ban complaining, ban them again. Harsh actions required to save our valuable forecasters.

    We all know that it's a hard game to get right and those people who understand that will not pass snipe comments.

    Maybe a forecasting section should be opened, only to people who really understand it in great depth. That would make it easier for the mods.


  • #124
    delw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    baraca wrote: »
    It's a shame that most conversation around here has gone from the weather to arguments. I for one would love to see it sorted out soon so we could get back to the weather, Some possibly very exciting times around the corner and all i see is posts about egos and trolls.

    Come on lads we've all had enough of this crap at this stage.
    ^^^This


  • #125
    nilhg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭nilhg


    I think the OP's suggestion is very appropriate and should help to improve the atmosphere on the forum but would require some heavy moderation, at least at the start, there is no point having a model discussion thread unless all the extraneous stuff is deleted ASAP and that would I fear place a heavy burden on our 2 mods, there is no way they can be here 24/7 and with respect to the category Mods I'm not sure they are regulars here.

    As I said before the problems here aren't new, it's all happened here before, people with a genuine interest in the weather need to be encouraged and messers need to be ignored by us members and given the boot by the Mods.


  • #126
    Nabber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    I've been lurking here for about 2 years. Picked up a lot of insight into the weather. Still a lot of learning to do, but I think that goes for everyone.
    Looking back on some of my own posts, I see how they could be annoying to people with more experience. But that was never the intention.
    The hierarchy thread although it is a good idea, it may turn people off reading as the interaction element is lost. A lot of people come to learn, the thought of not being able to post may lead to people feeling excluded.

    The only recommendations I’d have would be:
    1. Cut out any post with 4 or less words. If it has 4 or less words, it more than likely doesn't need to be said
    2. No unrelated pictures
    3. No unrelated videos
    The thing I find the most annoying is off topic posting. After hours and PMs are there for people who want a bit of mindless banter. This is the hardest to regulate.


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  • #127
    Dr Galen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    Hey everyone

    Just to let you all know that some of the suggestions that people are talking about here are already being discussed, and in the planning. :)

    Right now, the focus has been on replacing Su Campu (as if such a thing could be done ;)) , and there will hopefully be some news on that soon, the Mods will keep everyone posted on that.

    Once that bit is done, then the guys will have a full team again, and can put some of the ideas/plans etc that they have had into action.


  • #128
    Trogdor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Trogdor


    Hi all,

    I would just like to say that i largely agree with most of what has been said in here. The atmosphere in here has decayed recently and it is not the place it once was right now. I think that everyone should be allowed to contribute, no matter what their level of knowledge, as long as it's done in a respectful and genuine way.

    There will be some new additions coming to the modding team in the very near future and we will be working very hard to rectify the problems on here and restore the board back to its former glory.

    In future it may be better to contact one of the mods directly with any problem/idea you have with regard to the forum, but as we're trying to get the forum back on track i'll leave this open for now and encourage any members of the forum (long term lurkers or contributors) to post their opinions and ideas on how we can move from here (obviously within reason).

    Trogdor.


  • #129
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Any chance of Su coming back on the mods team ? He has been a great loss , it seems his working schedule allowed to him to be very active on the forum where this is not always going to be the case with people.

    Il be honest folks ,

    I was so dismayed with how things have been in here lately I mailed the mods to put my name forward to come on board as a mod

    Although only a novice on charts and Synoptics my work schedule does allow me a lot of time to be online and I hated to see my favorite place on boards going down the pan , although this does not seem to be the case now as the mods will getting things back on track.

    Anyway looking forward to the upcoming weather.


  • #130
    Madpaddy79
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Madpaddy79


    Min wrote: »
    I saw it posted in one thread that there are people with egos, referring to the people who actually who know what they are talking about, we all know the people we like to see posting because of their quality over quantity of posts, so here is my opinion.

    I have posted on this forum for a while now, there are people who have contributed to this forum for a long time and have a good read of what the charts are saying. I look at the charts and I get an idea of what they are saying will likely be or predicted to be the weather.
    However I would not start a topic on it as I know there are others whose knowledge is far greater and if it is worth doing a topic about it, they will do a topic on it.
    Sometimes they are wrong, but at least they go into detail as to what the charts were telling them at a particular time and use more than one of the weather model forecasts and use other sources of information to build up their case.

    No offense to any of the newer posters here, some are fine, some are too over enthusiastic when it comes to snow and hardship in my opinion but and this is important, there are poeple on this forum whose word is far more valued than others, who do quality rather than quantity when it comes to posts.
    I don't post a lot as I believe quality is better than quantity and even at that I would not say I post quality posts, but I read this forum a lot and there is a lot of rubbish posted at times.

    That was post 3945 for you, and you don't post alot, ok buddy!


  • #131
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Madpaddy79 wrote: »
    That was post 3945 for you, and you don't post alot, ok buddy!

    I am talking about the weather forum.

    There are many other forums on boards that I post on, I am not restricted to weather, I am not banned from all the rest.


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  • #132
    andrew
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Trolls are part and parcel of the internet. It's very hard to stop trolling, while also ensuring that legitimate posts get through too; there are no objective criteria for a troll post. As such, I think people need to learn to not feed trolls. If you see a post and immediately think it's a troll post, then it probably is one. As such, ignore it. It might make you angry, you might be gagging to give him/her a piece of your mind, but it's really better for the thread involved and the forum as a whole to just ignore them and move on (after having reported the post possibly).


  • #133
    Dr Galen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    andrew wrote: »
    Trolls are part and parcel of the internet. It's very hard to stop trolling, while also ensuring that legitimate posts get through too; there are no objective criteria for a troll post. As such, I think people need to learn to not feed trolls. If you see a post and immediately think it's a troll post, then it probably is one. As such, ignore it. It might make you angry, you might be gagging to give him/her a piece of your mind, but it's really better for the thread involved and the forum as a whole to just ignore them and move on (after having reported the post possibly).

    Never a truer word spoken tbh


  • #134
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Why dont people simply block the people they dont like/argue with or find annoying instead of giving the trolls exactly what they want:confused:


  • #135
    Su Campu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    It's good that this thread exists where people can get things off their chests, but to be honest there was already the zero tolerance thread weeks back that discussed the exact same issue and it has had little effect. I thought things had changed but this week we've seen the same ole shoyte from the same few posters. Maybe it's the lack of real eventful weather, but please, if you have nothing constructive to post, then post nothing, otherwise it becomes a frustrating after hours twin forum.

    It's all well and good to say to a mod to just delete all the irrelevant posts, but when these outnumber relevant ones then it becomes quite a job. People could make things a lot easier for everyone if they did as was stated above and not react to trolling comments. The reality is that one trolling comment multiplies instantly, with people feeling they have to respond. Yeah, by all means respond - but with the Report button report.gif. A few reported posts will soon see that repeat offenders will be weeded out and the forum can return to what it's supposed to be. Unfortunately it would appear that some of these people responsible don't know who they are as they are posting in this thread!


  • #136
    Joe Public
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    I think the main reason why the weather forum is getting a bit muddied is because it has become more popular and thus has attracted in bigger audiences and inevitably its share of messers.
    Maybe if the name was changed to meteorology, seeing as it is in the science category, it may not seem as inviting to some of the mischief makers.


  • #137
    TURRICAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    Joe Public wrote: »
    I think the main reason why the weather forum is getting a bit muddied is because it has become more popular and thus has attracted in bigger audiences and inevitably its share of messers.
    Maybe if the name was changed to meteorology, seeing as it is in the science category, it may not seem as inviting to some of the mischief makers.


    excellent idea:)


  • #138
    Mothman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    andrew wrote: »
    but it's really better for the thread involved and the forum as a whole to just ignore them and move on (after having reported the post possibly).
    Su Campu wrote: »
    The reality is that one trolling comment multiplies instantly, with people feeling they have to respond. Yeah, by all means respond - but with the Report button report.gif. A few reported posts will soon see that repeat offenders will be weeded out and the forum can return to what it's supposed to be.

    As a Mod here on boards, I've highlighted what I think is important for this forum going forward. USE THE REPORT BUTTON!

    This is a very busy forum. Mods cannot and should not be expected to read every post, but they do see reports, but while a single report may or may not be acted upon (I should know ;)), if a number of reports come in, then this is the ammo to backup mods actions such as infractions and bannings. This way it's kind of the community does the bannings by consensus, the mods are simply pressing the button ;)...but with the knowledge/support of the wider community.


  • #139
    Diamond Dust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Diamond Dust


    Congrats redsunset , well deserved best of luck


  • #140
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    darkman2 wrote: »
    This board is being trolled. They know who they are and they know what they are doing.

    This place was absolutely fine not too long ago. Unfortunately with any forum or board targeted by trolling this is beyond the comprehension of those causing problems.

    Ultimately that just ruins it for everyone and encourages genuine posters to leave.

    Speaking as a genuine poster I'm getting tired of the fact that a certain group here seem to think they own the weather threads.

    It is intolerance of diverse styles and opinions (especially about snow) that is causing the problem.

    Personally I am getting very tired of obvious experts (like Sponge) being openly called "trolls" by certain posters who seem to have license to say what they like.

    I have been a weather enthusiast for 40 years; have maintained weather records for 40 years. I am not a "model expert" but I have four decades of patterns and memories and I will not be bullied.

    I was here last year. The weather was better for us snow-lovers.

    And there was far less intolerance. :mad:


  • #141
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,966 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Speaking as a genuine poster I'm getting tired of the fact that a certain group here seem to think they own the weather threads.

    It is intolerance of diverse styles and opinions (especially about snow) that is causing the problem.

    :
    With respect i don't think that's the main problem.
    Those that have stayed on this forum, but who are just as peeved as others that have left, don't have a problem with diverse opinions being expressed about snow, rather there frustration is to do with posters whose(?) sole intentions are to goad/antagonise.
    I mean it would be extremely childish to be annoyed with someone because they express their dislike of snow or because they give an opinion that doesn't correspond with the wishes of others posters. If this mindset was prevalent a certain poster would not have been badly missed when he decided to leave for a while.


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  • #142
    Scubadevils
    Subscribers Posts: 8,322 ✭✭✭Scubadevils


    Real shame to see WolfeIRE has closed his account, he was clearly a valuable member here and I always looked out for his comments on upcoming weather events.

    Hope the forum sorts itself out and doesn't lose any more contributors... I think there can be a bit of over sensitivity at times from people, nothing wrong with some tongue in cheek comments at times or a bit of humour.


  • #143
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    nacho libre wrote: »
    Those that have stayed on this forum, but who are just as peeved as others that have left, don't have a problem with diverse opinions being expressed about snow, rather there frustration is to do with posters whose(?) sole intentions are to goad/antagonise.

    As someone who had no intention to "goad/antagonise" (nor any intention of being bullied) you will appreciate that my patience with folk who keep suggesting that, by association, I'm guilty, is running out.

    Especially when some people keep suggesting that a certain prominent poster (whose posts I like, OK?) is a troll etc - when he clearly doesn't have the sole intention of goading/antagonising.

    Or, perhaps any such intention - dunno - but unlike some here I don't claim to be a mind-reader.

    Maybe that fact that he makes accurate predictions that don't result in snow while other are hopecasting is what is causing all the problem?

    Looks like that to me.


  • #144
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    As someone who had no intention to "goad/antagonise" (nor any intention of being bullied) you will appreciate that my patience with folk who keep suggesting that, by association, I'm guilty, is running out.

    Especially when some people keep suggesting that a certain prominent poster (whose posts I like, OK?) is a troll etc - when he clearly doesn't have the sole intention of goading/antagonising.

    Or, perhaps any such intention - dunno - but unlike some here I don't claim to be a mind-reader.

    Maybe that fact that he makes accurate predictions that don't result in snow while other are hopecasting is what is causing all the problem?

    Looks like that to me.


    No one is having a pop at you.

    Some posters were getting annoyed that thread's were been taken over with harmless banter rather than anything substantial, TBH nothing really wrong on the viewpoint from either side ( Everyone was doing this , so your not being pointed out , neither is SB, it just happened that a SB post was the straw the broke the camels back today, there was words had and now its over and done with)

    I myself try to save most of my chit chat and banter for the general winter thread and I feel its more suited to there than a forecast/synoptics discussion thread.

    Whats said is over and done lets every start afresh and just start enjoying the forum again,

    No point in holding any grudges :D


  • #145
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    pistolpetes11 wrote: »

    No point in holding any grudges :D

    I don't! Life's too short.

    (especially when you get to my age ;))


  • #146
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Su Campu wrote: »
    It's all well and good to say to a mod to just delete all the irrelevant posts, but when these outnumber relevant ones then it becomes quite a job.

    Unfortunately it would appear that some of these people responsible don't know who they are as they are posting in this thread!


    Rather than deleting a post or comment maybe it is sometimes better to leave it there & with the Mod comment/action. It can be a problem where posters hear the warnings but don't think that they apply to them so a few clear examples might help.


  • #147
    K_1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭K_1


    Discodog wrote: »
    Rather than deleting a post or comment maybe it is sometimes better to leave it there & with the Mod comment/action. It can be a problem where posters hear the warnings but don't think that they apply to them so a few clear examples might help.

    However that would probably take even longer than deleting all the rubbish that gets posted.


  • #148
    darkman2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    I will not be bullied.

    Neither will I. If you want to criticise by all means do. Just be constructive about it like I am. I will never post a one liner comment goading another poster with an opinion. I will repost in as constructive and respectful a manner as possible. I will agree if I have been wrong. That is a better way then pointless one liners and antagonistic posting. That's my point. If you were offended by anything I said I apologise. I should have phrased it more appropriately.


  • #149
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    I've said my piece here, a little moderation goes a long way. IMO, it's time this thread was closed and unstickied.

    It's OVER.

    RedSunset, over to you. :)

    EDIT
    We don't need to be told about how to Mod. PM if you have a problem or press report and we will look at it.


  • #150
    Redsunset
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Locking this thread.

    That's it, Bickering is over. Do NOT bring any more of these arguments into another thread. Let it go and move on. No good will come of it.

    IT ENDS HERE AND NOW


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