Ireland’s First “Romance Scam” - 3 Nigerians Arrested

splashuum · 20-09-2020 9:48pm #1

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5922838/nigerian-men-romance-fraud-scam/

Rasak Sanni Sadu, Omawale Olamide Owalabi and Samson Ajayi, all originally from Nigeria and aged between 29 and 32, were lifted last Monday as part of Operation Engulf.

They were quizzed before being brought to Dublin District Court yesterday morning charged with a series of suspected fraud offences.

maneno · 20-09-2020 9:52pm

Who would have thought ðŸ™„

20-09-2020 9:52pm

Princes among men. Economy class back to Lagos, preferably in shackles.

Atlantic Dawn · 20-09-2020 9:59pm

What have they been doing here for a number of years?

The trio, who had lived in Ireland for a number of years, were remanded in custody to appear in court at a later date.

splashuum · 20-09-2020 10:09pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What have they been doing here for a number of years?

Statistics would gear towards claiming social welfare.

Madmax03 · 20-09-2020 10:26pm

splashuum wrote: »

Statistics would gear towards claiming social welfare.

Probably driving taxi's aswell

Rodney Bathgate · 20-09-2020 10:29pm

Deport ASAP please!

(And block them from returning under any circumstances, obviously.)

Beasty · 20-09-2020 10:37pm

splashuum wrote: »

Statistics would gear towards claiming social welfare.

Madmax03 wrote: »

Probably driving taxi's aswell

Threadbanned

Yellow_Fern · 20-09-2020 10:46pm

Given that romance scams are online and can done be remotely, you have to fair thick to do it in your country of residence.

enricoh · 20-09-2020 10:51pm

It's big business, saw a documentary on it - can't recall what country it was in africa but an army of lads in internet cafes trying to reel in lonely retirees. Usually pretending to be working in orphanage in afghanistan etc and can only access their money back home. Then dupe them into wiring over they're life savings. Must be dreadful when the penny drops and you cop your life savings are gone.

TheBlackPill · 20-09-2020 10:54pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Princes among men. Economy class back to Lagos, preferably in shackles.

Rower in galley back to Lagos

Rodney Bathgate · 20-09-2020 10:54pm

enricoh wrote: »

It's big business, saw a documentary on it - can't recall what country it was in africa but an army of lads in internet cafes trying to reel in lonely retirees. Usually pretending to be working in orphanage in afghanistan etc and can only access their money back home. Then dupe them into wiring over they're life savings. Must be dreadful when the penny drops and you cop your life savings are gone.

Nigeria has long had a reputation for internet scammers (Nigeria 419 etc), so this was likely also Nigeria.

Many years ago I was attempting to sell a Technics Hi-Fi System on ‘Buy and Sell’ website. Some lad in Lagos wanted me to post it to him from Ireland. Yeah right, I wasn’t born yesterday, pal.

Rodney Bathgate · 20-09-2020 10:55pm

TheBlackPill wrote: »

Rower in galley back to Lagos

Is that better than steerage class?

Beechwoodspark · 20-09-2020 10:55pm

Very little confidence in this new govt but they should set an example with these and get rid

TheBlackPill · 20-09-2020 10:57pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Is that better than steerage class?

Yes. You have access to the ships gym.

Rodney Bathgate · 20-09-2020 11:00pm

TheBlackPill wrote: »

Yes. You have access to the ships gym.

For exactly 16 hours a day. Every day.

DelaneyIn · 20-09-2020 11:00pm

Two of the three have semi decent jobs and one seems to be a naturalised citizen.

The RTE site gave a bit more information on the defendants. I did laugh at this part of on of the bail conditions imposed on the ringleader.

He also had to agree not to log into any dating app either under his own name or under any fake profiles.

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0919/1166230-money-laundering-charges/

21-09-2020 10:15am

enricoh wrote: »

It's big business, saw a documentary on it - can't recall what country it was in africa but an army of lads in internet cafes trying to reel in lonely retirees. Usually pretending to be working in orphanage in afghanistan etc and can only access their money back home. Then dupe them into wiring over they're life savings. Must be dreadful when the penny drops and you cop your life savings are gone.

I have very little sympathy for people who get scammed like this - unless of course they are suffering from dementia or some other degenerative mental condition.

I suspect there are very few people who do this with their life savings. What I mean is it is mostly people who are widowed where their former spouse was the one managing the money, and suddenly they are alone and have a nice nest egg but have no idea how hard it is to actually get that sort of money together.

If you spent all your life putting together a retirement fund, you wouldn't be so quick to give it all away on a whim.

Also think of the real good you could do locally or for your family with that money if it's really burning a hole in your pocket.

biko · 21-09-2020 10:19am

The woman alleges she spent cash on an investment project in the Middle East that never existed after receiving correspondence on the dating website Plenty of Fish last year from a man claiming to be a US oil rig worker.

It's sad when people are so desperate for love they fall into traps like this.
At the same time it's so low to prey on women this way.

elbyrneo · 21-09-2020 10:20am

What exactly did they do? No details of the offence and how they scammed someone.

Wonder if it was particularly clever, or, particularly idiotic of the victim.

Gatling · 21-09-2020 10:20am

Revoke citizenship and send them packing ,

But we know how this country works when it comes to foreign imported criminals ,ah sure if they fled a war give them a hug and payrise

21-09-2020 10:21am

biko wrote: »

It's sad when people are so desperate for love they fall into traps like this.
At the same time it's so low to prey on women this way.

There are plenty of men that fall for these traps too, far more I'd suspect.

Heres Johnny · 21-09-2020 10:27am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There are plenty of men that fall for these traps too, far more I'd suspect.

Polish lad I work with got scammed on the Russian bride thing on dating apps. Not once, but twice. Sent her money to pay their way out of whatever debt she and her family were in so she could come and join him in Ireland.

Can believe the first time, but 2nd time was ridiculous. He was in looking for advances and loans after that too, wonder did he think third time lucky.

Kivaro · 21-09-2020 11:56am

In order to solve our "too white" problem (as Varadkar calls it), the Irish Government is handing out Irish citizenship to Africans like confetti. This de facto policy should be reconsidered, but unfortunately it will only be enhanced in the coming years. With a massive recession coming, we really cannot afford it any longer.

21-09-2020 12:28pm

Kivaro wrote: »

In order to solve our "too white" problem (as Varadkar calls it)

Source please.
All I can find is reports where he says the Civil Service is notable for being manned almost exclusively by ethnic Irish.

kildare lad · 21-09-2020 1:26pm

Where's all these doctors and lawyers that the people who push for diversity promised us ???

Gatling · 21-09-2020 1:36pm

kildare lad wrote: »

Where's all these doctors and lawyers that the people who push for diversity promised us ???

There busy getting stuck off

Rodney Bathgate · 21-09-2020 1:43pm

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Polish lad I work with got scammed on the Russian bride thing on dating apps. Not once, but twice. Sent her money to pay their way out of whatever debt she and her family were in so she could come and join him in Ireland.

Can believe the first time, but 2nd time was ridiculous. He was in looking for advances and loans after that too, wonder did he think third time lucky.

How did you become so cynical?

21-09-2020 1:59pm

Still waiting for a source from Kivaro.

Potatoeman · 21-09-2020 2:02pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have very little sympathy for people who get scammed like this - unless of course they are suffering from dementia or some other degenerative mental condition.

I suspect there are very few people who do this with their life savings. What I mean is it is mostly people who are widowed where their former spouse was the one managing the money, and suddenly they are alone and have a nice nest egg but have no idea how hard it is to actually get that sort of money together.

If you spent all your life putting together a retirement fund, you wouldn't be so quick to give it all away on a whim.

Also think of the real good you could do locally or for your family with that money if it's really burning a hole in your pocket.

Confidence scams usually offer something for knowingly breaking the law. That’s where the saying that you can’t con an honest man comes from.

imme · 21-09-2020 2:05pm

Well done Ireland.

Rodney Bathgate · 21-09-2020 2:06pm

imme wrote: »

Well done Ireland.

Let’s wait until they have been deported before we congratulate ourselves.

hayoc · 21-09-2020 2:09pm

Potatoeman wrote: »

Confidence scams usually offer something for knowingly breaking the law. That’s where the saying that you can’t con an honest man comes from.

Romance scams dont work the same way. Its more sob story based.

imme · 21-09-2020 2:11pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Let’s wait until they have been deported before we congratulate ourselves.

I was being ironic.

Those people won't be going anywhere.

I'd they do go to prison they may study Internet security or investment security.

Well done Ireland.

Potatoeman · 21-09-2020 2:13pm

hayoc wrote: »

Romance scams dont work the same way. Its more sob story based.

Then why would they expect the money back?

bigpink · 21-09-2020 2:14pm

Start rounding them all up..plenty here years with no legal status
Look at the African crime levels in Ireland now

hayoc · 21-09-2020 2:16pm

Potatoeman wrote: »

Then why would they expect the money back?

Because they were scammed.

If your partner asks you for money to pay off some debt and and then it turns out there was no debt and they arent really your partner and they were just trying to get your money - its a scam.

People who fall for this are usually desperately lonely. And when they realise they were scammed they are ashamed because people will give the response seen throughout this thread - that they were stupid and should have known better. So it often goes unreported.

washman3 · 21-09-2020 2:21pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What have they been doing here for a number of years?

Spending the money they won in the 'Nigerian Lotto'....;)

Mongfinder General · 21-09-2020 2:56pm

bigpink wrote: »

Start rounding them all up..plenty here years with no legal status
Look at the African crime levels in Ireland now

These men are the product of a poor environment.
There's nothing wrong with them. Given the right surroundings and encouragement, I'll bet that those men could run our country as well as Young Leo could.

Emme · 21-09-2020 3:54pm

biko wrote: »

It's sad when people are so desperate for love they fall into traps like this.
At the same time it's so low to prey on women this way.

It isn't just Nigerians scammers who prey on women that way (financially). Women on their own in this country, particularly older ones who have poor support systems, have traditionally been fair game for scammers, dupers, con men etc. For example, the unscrupulous farmer trying to buy a widow's farm for way below its market value. Rural Ireland is full of stories of scams like this, all from a time that Nigeria was just a place on a map of Africa as far as Irish people were concerned. I'm not excusing these lads but there are Irish every bit as bad.

21-09-2020 4:00pm

The woman alleges she spent cash on an investment project in the Middle East that never existed after receiving correspondence on the dating website Plenty of Fish last year from a man claiming to be a US oil rig worker.

"Plenty of Fish" was a spot-on site name in her case in fairness

Maybe she was after a bit of Clonakilty

But hopefully these lads will find their calling outside Ireland back in their own land

bigpink · 21-09-2020 4:04pm

We all see how well North Dublin is doing with Africans

imme · 21-09-2020 4:14pm

Emme wrote: »

It isn't just Nigerians scammers who prey on women that way (financially). Women on their own in this country, particularly older ones who have poor support systems, have traditionally been fair game for scammers, dupers, con men etc. For example, the unscrupulous farmer trying to buy a widow's farm for way below its market value. Rural Ireland is full of stories of scams like this, all from a time that Nigeria was just a place on a map of Africa as far as Irish people were concerned. I'm not excusing these lads but there are Irish every bit as bad.

The case is 3 Nigerians, if you have evidence of wrongdoing in other cases this is not the place for it.

Galwayguy35 · 21-09-2020 4:28pm

Emme wrote: »

Rural Ireland is full of stories of scams like this, all from a time that Nigeria was just a place on a map of Africa as far as Irish people were concerned. I'm not excusing these lads but there are Irish every bit as bad.

Is it?

I'm from rural Ireland and have yet to hear of something like this happening.

Galwayguy35 · 21-09-2020 4:30pm

looks like they were very grateful to be given citizenship in our country and just wanted to pay us back.

Yellow_Fern · 21-09-2020 4:42pm

In some places you have whole companies specialising in scamming people in Europe. There is a wonderful Nordie hacker who exposes them Jim Browning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9LUS2F1cA

BattleCorp · 21-09-2020 6:04pm

glasso wrote: »

Maybe she was after a bit of Clonakilty

I see what you did there.

:D:D

suicide_circus · 21-09-2020 6:25pm

This smacks of systemic racism.

Junkyard Tom · 21-09-2020 6:50pm

People from outside the EU should be here on a sort of 'provisional licence' whereby they get turfed out of the country if they do shit like that in the first 10/15 years.

Emme · 21-09-2020 6:59pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Is it?

I'm from rural Ireland and have yet to hear of something like this happening.

I know of a widowed woman from the South West who fell for such a ruse. Local farmer courted her and got her late husband's farm at a knockdown price. The relationship broke up soon after he bought the farm funny enough. The widow's elderly in-laws who still lived in the home place ended up with very little rights. This was 20 years ago. Nigerian scammers are clear cut but Irish scammers are more cunning and play the long game, sometimes decades.

Rodney Bathgate · 21-09-2020 7:09pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

This smacks of systemic racism.

It is well established that only white people can be racist. So there can be no systemic racism in Nigeria.

Ireland’s First “Romance Scam” - 3 Nigerians Arrested

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