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BikeRacer · 18-06-2017 12:08am

B*llocks

Grim. · 18-06-2017 12:13am

holy ****

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 12:14am

Some one crash?

Sterling Archer · 18-06-2017 12:14am

On my...

Grim. · 18-06-2017 12:14am

ffs Toyota have to be cursed

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 12:16am

Stupid to race back with puncture, more damage done

That cars toast

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 12:18am

That's heartbreaking.

BikeRacer · 18-06-2017 12:23am

B*llocks!

Arthur Daley · 18-06-2017 12:25am

Can Porsche nurse it all the way now. Surely be one slow and steady pace for remaining 13.5 hours

Sterling Archer · 18-06-2017 12:43am

You can never even think about sleeping at night for Le Mans...

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 12:49am

Wonder will any of the LM P1 cars finish at this rate

Sterling Archer · 18-06-2017 12:52am

Possibilities of Rebellion to Win overall, who'd have thought that

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 12:54am

If Porsche run trouble free the 2 should end up second.

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 10:14am

Number 1 car, leader with engine problem :eek:

Like the Toyotas, he needs to crawl for a full lap back to pits

Wouldn't be hopeful

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 10:16am

Wow. And he's barely moving now. Only at the first chicane. Second place has taken two laps back already

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 10:22am

It's going to be very tight for the 2 to get the laps back. An SC would be enough to stop him.

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 10:25am

looks like only one lm p1 will have chance of podium... they're saying number 2 car mightn't have enough time to win... going to be close

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 10:26am

The 1 has stopped and Lotterer is out of it trying to work on it.
The slow zone won't be helping the 2

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 10:33am

funny that two toyotas and the porsche had their failures after just passing the pits. And none able to limp home for a lap

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 10:58am

Hartley in the 2 now in second. Two laps behind.

Arthur Daley · 18-06-2017 11:01am

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

Hartley in the 2 now in second. Two laps behind.

Fairly handy too. If he can finish he wins. Forgot number 8 Toyota still out there. In tenth.

TheChrisD · 18-06-2017 11:08am

That #38 tail change was a mess. Lots of time lost.

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 11:52am

Onto the lead lap for the 2 now, with just over two hours to go.

Arthur Daley · 18-06-2017 12:00pm

Gap of 3 mins 4. Needs to take about 7 seconds a lap and is easily taking it.

Arthur Daley · 18-06-2017 12:37pm

Porsche is taking 12 seconds a lap. One minute gap now, so by 1pm Porsche should have the lead, and an hour to nurse it home.

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 12:50pm

15 second gap with 70 minutes to go

Ghost Train · 18-06-2017 12:57pm

In the lead, wonder if the car can run without problems for another hour

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 1:00pm

The now second place 38 is having overheating problems. But it has two laps over third place.
The 8 doesn't look like it'll improve on 9th overall

Harika · 18-06-2017 1:02pm

Interesting last hour no one expected

TheChrisD · 18-06-2017 1:09pm

Blue flags were shown for the #38 when the Porsche came to pass for the lead

Harika · 18-06-2017 1:36pm

TheChrisD wrote: »

Blue flags were shown for the #38 when the Porsche came to pass for the lead

The Porsche is 15 seconds a lap quicker, trying to fight that is madness

donspeekinglesh · 18-06-2017 2:23pm

The 2 by a lap in the end.
Fantastic finish in GTE Pro.

TheChrisD · 18-06-2017 2:45pm

Terrible coverage by the TV director at the end. Suffered massively from "wife cam syndrome", barely showed GTE's last lap and completely missed/ignored the Ford getting past.

Jordan 199 · 18-06-2017 5:33pm

I hope Toyota can go on and win the WEC now.

Killinator · 18-06-2017 10:53pm

Was there over the race weekend. You just don't predict Le Man's!
That GT battle between the Corvette and Aston Martin was amazing to witness in the stand at the finish line.

Sterling Archer · 19-06-2017 11:45pm

rebellion stripped of podium

Ghost Train · 20-06-2017 1:28am

Shane_ef wrote: »

rebellion stripped of podium

seems kind of harsh

did notice them having to take off the engine cover to hit solenoid or maybe that was another team, did delay the pitstop quite a bit

donspeekinglesh · 20-06-2017 10:06am

That was them, and they got a penalty for it, as the driver is the supposed to start the car unaided.
I think what really got them in trouble was trying to cover up the hole in Parc Ferme. Might have been let away lighter otherwise.

Sterling Archer · 20-06-2017 7:08pm

Best as for forgiveness than try to hide it, considering they were using a big metal pipe during pitstops

Harika · 27-07-2017 10:35am

Porsche now pulled the plug on the LMP1 program. They will be gone at the end of 2017 what will leave Toyota alone for 2018.

donspeekinglesh · 27-07-2017 11:29am

It's not confirmed yet, but looking likely.
Not sure where that leaves WEC as a world championship, as they're supposed to have at least 2 manufacturer teams for that status for LMP.

donspeekinglesh · 28-07-2017 7:30am

And now it's confirmed. P1 team gone and they're off to FE. GTE and GTLM programs remain.

Grim. · 28-07-2017 10:40am

Mixed emotions about this news, on one hand its the end of the amazing LMP1 Hybrid formula but on the other it could lead to a hell of a private LMP1 team field.

Killinator · 28-07-2017 3:48pm

The ACO really need to rethink how they operate their regulations.

As for Toyota, do they:
A: continue on and hope for a victory in '18 but have it seen as a hollow victory.
Or
B: take a chance and the curse continues and they suffer a humiliation by being beaten next year by a lesser class if their car fails again.
Or
C: pull out and once again see their attempts at a win end in failure

Tough choice!

The chance to jump at a large privateer field using the ACOs hands. I'm slightly dreaming of Pescarolo's return ðŸ˜Š

30-07-2017 2:28am

Killinator wrote: »

The ACO really need to rethink how they operate their regulations.

As for Toyota, do they:
A: continue on and hope for a victory in '18 but have it seen as a hollow victory.
Or
B: take a chance and the curse continues and they suffer a humiliation by being beaten next year by a lesser class if their car fails again.
Or
C: pull out and once again see their attempts at a win end in failure

Tough choice!

The chance to jump at a large privateer field using the ACOs hands. I'm slightly dreaming of Pescarolo's return &#55357;&#56842;

At the same time, if they "liberalise" the rules too much it'll all be dross. Hard to see what tactic they can go with.

Killinator · 30-07-2017 12:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Killinator wrote: »

At the same time, if they "liberalise" the rules too much it'll all be dross. Hard to see what tactic they can go with.

Yeah, it's a tough balancing act that they've got pretty right the last few years but they've really had the rug pulled from under them.
Bad form from Porsche to partake in having new regulation set and then pull out, similar to Peugeot pulling out after the WEC was formed after crying out for a championship and had also developed a hybrid LMP aswell.
But 2 major manufacturers in a year dropping out looks bad, but with the cost of an LMP 1 car that can contend becoming astronomical then it's no wonder that the most new manufacturers are willing to do is GTE like Ford and BMW.

TheChrisD · 02-09-2017 1:52am

So, the FIA have... gone bonkers with WEC. http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/new-look-strengthened-fia-world-endurance-championship-for-the-future/5354

Swapping the calendar around so that a seasons ends at Le Mans; and also going back to Sebring - but instead running a completely separate race to IMSA

donspeekinglesh · 02-09-2017 10:48am

Two separate 12 Hours of Sebring in one weekend is mad.
Hopefully these changes will help the series survive. Will miss Silverstone though.

Looking forward to Mexico tomorrow night (especially since it's the last one).

Harika · 02-09-2017 10:57am

The main problem is not addressed, that the flagship category for the series is far too expensive. And as long they won't address that while keeping the manufacturers happy they are doomed like the many Lmp series before.
Overall unlikely as Porsche and Audi are spending idiotic amounts until they drop out.

TheChrisD · 02-09-2017 4:15pm

Harika wrote: »

The main problem is not addressed, that the flagship category for the series is far too expensive. And as long they won't address that while keeping the manufacturers happy they are doomed like the many Lmp series before.

If you ask me, the best thing for the ACO to do is scrap LMP1 entirely and just have the one prototype class split kinda like how IMSA do it:
- DPi and manufacturer cars, allowed custom bodywork and engines (BoP adjusted), with full-pro driver lineups
- Privateer cars running the spec engine with pro-am driver lineups.

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