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series vs UAE and Afghanistan

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    #92
    minitrue
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭minitrue


    McCarthy had lost it indeed and feeds Ashgar 3 short ones in the next over that go 6, 6, 4 when they'd 18 left to win. 260-3 off 45.2. Campher only bowled 4 overs, probably would have been worth going back to him earlier with the way he had been bowling before today. I'd have tried him before McCarthy and Chase again, likewise Stirling before going back to McBrine and Singh though I guess their two 5-fors bought them the nod. Have to give credit to the two lads who put on 184 ?chancelessly?, hard to believe it was the same pitch as the last game with the lack of turn (or anything else) for all our spinners.

    The WC qualifying means we have to dust ourselves off and take something out of the series on Tuesday, no dead rubbers in this format! I'm going to guess Little comes in (I'd guess for Young) if he's been showing he's up to speed in training.

    Maybe for the last game I'll keep my mouth shut!


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    #93
    wicorthered
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    Jesus that Ireland team is very very poor. Mccarthy and Young aren't even an associate level attack as the UAE proved. Does Gareth Delaney offer anything?

    Considering how they struggled against the UAE this is not unexpected.

    Irish cricket is finished, nothing coming through that could be even remotely considered test level.


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    #94
    VillaMad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Stirling is world class and Campher looks very promising. As for the rest it's just average at best. Tough times.


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    KevIRL
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    Better start today. Four wickets taken although a handy partnership starting to develop now. A few changes to the team including KOB dropped


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    Richard Hillman
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    It just seems to be a perennial problem with Ireland in getting a good start with bowling and then letting their lower order run away with things. Its 100% a mindset issue.


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    Humberto Salazar
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    Seems like there is a huge reliance on Stirling. If he goes that's it you would think.


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    #98
    Mysterypunter
    Registered Users Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    Seems like there is a huge reliance on Stirling. If he goes that's it you would think.

    He has gone, and so has tucker, lots of walking wickets to come, so it looks like another defeat, I'd love to be wrong, but it's groundhog day


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    #99
    fergiesfav
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭fergiesfav


    Woeful absolutely woeful.

    They obviously all go to bed dreaming about Rashid Khan. They can't bowl to him, can't bat against him. I doubt in the history of the game a single player has terrorized a team like he does to Ireland.

    This Irish team is probably the worst team for 15 years.

    Not matter what situation they get the opposition in thy cannot finish them off. To let 163/7 become 266 is criminal and shows up how little threat the bowling side offers, particular the medium pacers. This happens time and again.

    The batting side is much too reliant on Stirling. Balbirnie is an all or nothing type, you'd never depend on him. The rest are at best guys that shouldn't be batting higher than 7 in international cricket. How many times does it look like Ireland are well set for a big total only to look like headless chickens trying to up the scoring rate.

    I'm convinced they don't do any bowling coaching. If any coach is teaching his bowlers to bowl repeatedly short on soft slow pitches, he obviously doesn't understand the game. The economy rates for McCarthey, Young, Little (bowled well today) and Adair are embarrassing. If they are being coached to bowl like that the coach needs to be removed.

    It was a good ride while it lasted, but unless CI go down the passport route they'll be overtaken by Scotland soon.


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    MrKingsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    That's a crushing defeat earlier. No use being on top for the first 35 overs of each inning just to let it fall away like that.

    Overall I have faith in the team - if not the coaching. How Khan does for us every match with bat or ball is infuriating. How the players have not been told to look for 3-3.5 an over off him and forget the boundaries by now is beyond me.

    I feel we are paying the cost for holding onto some of the last generation for too long. A lot of this squad has still only played 5 or so series. They need to be given time.

    Adair, Campher, Tucker, Delany, McCollum, Tector all need time. They've all played less than 20 ODIs barring Tucker. And he shouldve been given the gloves a long time ago.


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    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,626 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    It just seems to be a perennial problem with Ireland in getting a good start with bowling and then letting their lower order run away with things. Its 100% a mindset issue.

    We see it over and over again where they just can't finish off a team, and it's been like that for years


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