UFC 257 Poirier vs McGregor 2

DodoDojo · 27-01-2021 2:30pm

Mellor wrote: »

If he quit his job to pursue a career in MMA, then he was unemployed. He also collected social welfare. I don’t see how the area he was living affected the claim about unemployed on welfare.
Where’s the BS? You’re making out he was claiming to be sleeping on the streets or something.

When he fought Aldo he literally was saying things like 'he's from the streets of Rio, I'm from the streets of Ireland' which is ridiculous when you consider Aldo was actually in the Favellas in a third world country, literally not being able to eat some days while McGregor had a comfortable background.

Eddie Alvarez had a great point telling him to stop talking about money, you were on welfare taking money from single moms and people that need it. He's dead right too, welfare is not supposed to be there for people to quit their decent jobs so they can pursue something that doesn’t pay them. Neil Seery is the prime example of how you are supposed to do it, he worked to support himself and still pursued his MMA dreams.

weldoninhio · 27-01-2021 2:36pm

DodoDojo wrote: »

When he fought Aldo he literally was saying things like 'he's from the streets of Rio, I'm from the streets of Ireland' which is ridiculous when you consider Aldo was actually in the Favellas in a third world country, literally not being able to eat some days while McGregor had a comfortable background.

Eddie Alvarez had a great point telling him to stop talking about money, you were on welfare taking money from single moms and people that need it. He's dead right too, welfare is not supposed to be there for people to quit their decent jobs so they can pursue something that doesn’t pay them. Neil Seery is the prime example of how you are supposed to do it, he worked to support himself and still pursued his MMA dreams.

100%. When McGregor couldn't hack it as an apprentice plumber his dad offered him €5k to go back to it. I doubt Aldo or Pacquaio had that level of comfort to fall back on if they didn't make it.

27-01-2021 2:44pm

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weldoninhio wrote: »

100%. When McGregor couldn't hack it as an apprentice plumber his dad offered him €5k to go back to it. I doubt Aldo or Pacquaio had that level of comfort to fall back on if they didn't make it.

He came from a more privileged background than me, and even I don't think I had it that bad in the scheme of things.

simongurnick · 27-01-2021 2:47pm

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A lot of the rags to riches story was picked up by american journalists. Being on welfare in america means you are dirt poor, while in Ireland half the country was on the dole at one point.
Conor didn't paint that narrative. Got to love how this thread goes from an analysis of his fighting to basically rewriting the history of the guys story. Kind of pathetic.

weldoninhio · 27-01-2021 2:49pm

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He came from a more privileged background than me, and even I don't think I had it that bad in the scheme of things.

Same as myself, born and raised on a council estate. Dad broke his back when I was about 10, so he was on disability benefit all his life, with my mother looking after him. I doubt my parents ever seen €5k, never mind had it to give to me to stay in a job.

Ash.J.Williams · 27-01-2021 3:15pm

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DodoDojo wrote: »

When he fought Aldo he literally was saying things like 'he's from the streets of Rio, I'm from the streets of Ireland' which is ridiculous when you consider Aldo was actually in the Favellas in a third world country, literally not being able to eat some days while McGregor had a comfortable background.

Eddie Alvarez had a great point telling him to stop talking about money, you were on welfare taking money from single moms and people that need it. He's dead right too, welfare is not supposed to be there for people to quit their decent jobs so they can pursue something that doesn’t pay them. Neil Seery is the prime example of how you are supposed to do it, he worked to support himself and still pursued his MMA dreams.

It did pay though

Tommy tiernan did the same

Mellor · 27-01-2021 3:29pm

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DodoDojo wrote: »

When he fought Aldo he literally was saying things like 'he's from the streets of Rio, I'm from the streets of Ireland'

That was clearly over the top promotion. I don’t think anyone took it seriously as an economic comparison between Ireland abd a third world country.

Eddie Alvarez had a great point telling him to stop talking about money, you were on welfare taking money from single moms and people that need it.

Conor being on the dole doesn’t stop any single moms getting on the dole.

You’re twisting Eddie’s words a bit. What he actually said was that your aren’t a man if you take welfare, welfare is for single moms.

That’s a ridiculously ignorant take on welfare tbh.

He's dead right too, welfare is not supposed to be there for people to quit their decent jobs so they can pursue something that doesn’t pay them.

I think there’s a difference between something that doesn’t and will never pay you. And pursuing something like a sporting career that could set you up for the future. By going full time, Conor was able to get signed, make a lot of money, and presumably contribute far more tax to society that he would have as an plumber. (Pointing that out for the purpose of net effect).

Could he have do it all while working a 9-5, maybe. But it’s less likely.

yourdeadwright · 27-01-2021 5:53pm

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Mellor wrote: »

That was clearly over the top promotion. I don’t think anyone took it seriously as an economic comparison between Ireland abd a third world country.

Conor being on the dole doesn’t stop any single moms getting on the dole.

You’re twisting Eddie’s words a bit. What he actually said was that your aren’t a man if you take welfare, welfare is for single moms.

That’s a ridiculously ignorant take on welfare tbh.

I think there’s a difference between something that doesn’t and will never pay you. And pursuing something like a sporting career that could set you up for the future. By going full time, Conor was able to get signed, make a lot of money, and presumably contribute far more tax to society that he would have as an plumber. (Pointing that out for the purpose of net effect).

Could he have do it all while working a 9-5, maybe. But it’s less likely.

Conor quite working years before his UFC debut and he never lived in the gym he turned up it in the evening and sometimes he never turned up at all , It was only about 2012 (cage warrior days) when he started to really put in all the extra work ,

Conor just quite work cause didn't like it

Would Conor gets paid and pays his tax's in the States or would the Irish government get a % ? (that's a question not a statement

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Physicskid9 · 27-01-2021 6:20pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Conor quite working years before his UFC debut and he never lived in the gym he turned up it in the evening and sometimes he never turned up at all , It was only about 2012 (cage warrior days) when he started to really put in all the extra work ,

Conor just quite work cause didn't like it

Would Conor gets paid and pays his tax's in the States or would the Irish government get a % ? (that's a question not a statement )

Not to be 'that guy' but it's spelled quit. I just thought I'd point it out because you used "quite" twice in your post above.

AlmightyCushion · 27-01-2021 6:27pm

Mellor wrote: »

That was clearly over the top promotion. I don’t think anyone took it seriously as an economic comparison between Ireland abd a third world country.

Conor being on the dole doesn’t stop any single moms getting on the dole.

You’re twisting Eddie’s words a bit. What he actually said was that your aren’t a man if you take welfare, welfare is for single moms.

That’s a ridiculously ignorant take on welfare tbh.

I think there’s a difference between something that doesn’t and will never pay you. And pursuing something like a sporting career that could set you up for the future. By going full time, Conor was able to get signed, make a lot of money, and presumably contribute far more tax to society that he would have as an plumber. (Pointing that out for the purpose of net effect).

Could he have do it all while working a 9-5, maybe. But it’s less likely.

I don't agree with quitting a job and going on the dole to try and persue a sports career. Sure, it worked for McGregor but that won't work for every one and it isn't what social welfare is supposed to be for. If you tell your social welfare officer that you haven't been looking for a job because you want to be a pro fighter in the UFC, they will likely reduce your payments.

You are right about Eddie though, he was saying Conor wasn't a man because he was on welfare.

Axwell · 27-01-2021 6:29pm

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Very little talk going on here now about the event itself so time to lock the thread down - any discussion can continue in the McGregor thread, which is for MMA talk only...so keep on topic.

UFC 257 Poirier vs McGregor 2

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