Green list destinations... Been and back? Recommend?

Been to Budapest and back (on my own) COVID cases there are still under 5/100k/14 days. Life is pretty well normal bar face masks indoors and on public transport.

Cases in Italy are now way above the Green list threshold so watch out.

Through a combination of frequent flyer status and knowledge of Aer Lingus seat allocation rules all 4 COVID era flights I have made have given me a 3 seats to myself and few if any around me.

Simple question,
Imagine you get sick while on holiday? You could pick it up before travel or in country. You need a plan for how you would cope.

The green list threshold was set at 5/100k/14 days

Italy is way beyond this now

Only two countries meet the original threshold, Lativa and Hungary

goingnowhere wrote: »

The green list threshold was set at 5/100k/14 days

Italy is way beyond this now

Only two countries meet the original threshold, Lativa and Hungary

Ireland is way beyond that now. Do we all need to move to Latvia until things calm down a bit?

just back from italy and for familes on a campsite its grand. Pools have slightly reduced capacity (not an issue in September) and if on the beach it'll also be fine. You just have to wear masks in any shops and in a restaurant going to your table. They have a new policy that requires masks in busy outdoor places in the evenings after 6pm but thats fairly localised. All in all though its not much of an imposition and they are just getting on with it.

As alluded to above,.there has been a spate of cases in italy associated with teenagers and young adults partying especially in outdoor nightclubs. Aside from the fact that you wouldnt be at those places with say a 3 year old, they are now closed. Even Briatore (former F1 team owner) who spent last week calling the government fools for banning his "billionaire" club, has the virus from his club, as does a professional football player friend of his who was partying with him. Further afield, Usain bolt has the virus , from partying. There was a spate of cases in Serbia there too, where indoor nightclubs were open as if nothing was happening. And in Ireland, you cant go on holiday, the pubs are safe but overly restrictive, so the virus then spreads via house parties.

Anyhow, thats now ended, the numbers should stabilise and on a holiday outdoors at a family campsite you have little chance of catching anything from the party loving natives.

Thinkin of italy in late october, any cheap cities to go to, basically the city with the cheapest drink??

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Make sure you have that form done before you travel, otherwise you’ll be refused boarding at the gate by the airline.
The Greeks have stepped up testing at the airport so there’s a high chance you’ll get tested upon arrival. Probably due to Ireland’s higher rate of Covid.

Im due to fly to Crete with RYanair, where do I get the form, fill in etc

Thanks

CBear1993 wrote: »

Download the visit Greece app on your iPhone or Android, it’s on there.

Otherwise it’s on the Greek travel / foreign affairs website called - PLF.

Registered using a PC

their communication is a little confusing
"you will receive the PLF document with the QR code on the day of your scheduled arrival in Greece (at midnight). You will be notified again via email and this URL will be automatically updated. The PLF document is only valid with the QR code. If travel departure begins prior to the day of arrival, travelers are allowed to board after showing the confirmation email (and not necessarily the QR code which is scheduled to arrive during their trip)."

I rang the PLF helpdesk 00302155605151, and they said I will receive the QR code, the day before I arrive in Greece

CBear1993 wrote: »

It sure is K I’ll agree with you. Our flight is this Friday morning at 6:40am so I am bloody well hoping they send us the code at Thursday midnight!
I can’t even print anything off except the emails to say we filled out a PLF.
Did you just fill one out?
I only filled the one for myself and girlfriend who live together, again that was confusing with the whole household section.

You'll get the barcode at 10pm irish time so will be grand, and you have your partner as the 2nd person on your form so that's grand once are from the same household.. it's detailed on the form anyways.
Don't print it out, just keep the email on your phone.

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Yea make sure you do otherwise it will be the shortest holiday you've ever had.

The Greeks have ramped up testing so be ready to get swabbed...



https://travel.gov.gr/#/

I think swab is only for arrivals from

Announcement regarding flights from Sweden, Belgium, Spain, Albania and the Republic of North Macedonia to Greece.

Passengers of flights from Bulgaria, Romania, U.A.E. and Malta (as of August 11, 2020 until 15 September 2020) and passengers of flights from Sweden, Belgium, Spain, Albania and the Republic of North Macedonia (as of August 17, 2020 until 15 September 2020) to Greece will be required to have a negative molecular test result (PCR) for COVID-19, performed up to 72 hours before their entry to Greece.



Depending on their QR code/confirmation, travelers are directed either to the screening area where they will be tested for the new coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 by a trained health team or to the exit (to baggage claim area or passport control).

Just a PS, i register using a PC on https://travel.gov.gr/
when I try to sign onto the visit greece App, does not recognise me

k123456 wrote: »

I think swab is only for arrivals from
Announcement regarding flights from Sweden, Belgium, Spain, Albania and the Republic of North Macedonia to Greece.
Passengers of flights from Bulgaria, Romania, U.A.E. and Malta (as of August 11, 2020 until 15 September 2020) and passengers of flights from Sweden, Belgium, Spain, Albania and the Republic of North Macedonia (as of August 17, 2020 until 15 September 2020) to Greece will be required to have a negative molecular test result (PCR) for COVID-19, performed up to 72 hours before their entry to Greece.
Depending on their QR code/confirmation, travelers are directed either to the screening area where they will be tested for the new coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 by a trained health team or to the exit (to baggage claim area or passport control).
Just a PS, i register using a PC on https://travel.gov.gr/
when I try to sign onto the visit greece App, does not recognise me

Well, I've flown to Greece twice this year, once from Berlin and once from Dublin, I was waved on through from the Berlin flight, however the Dublin flight was directed over to the scan/testing area and every 2nd or 3rd person was tested...

I've not used the Visit Greece app, only registered to get the code...

rorrissey wrote: »

I'm currently in Corfu, Greece. I flew from Dublin with aerlingus. They were testing most people on our flight, I would guess that over half of us were tested. I travelled with my boyfriend and we were on the one PLF form, so only one of us had to take the covid test. It took a few seconds. Nothing to worry about.

Try and get to the airport at least 2 hours before your flight, the passport check to get to the Gate is an absolute disgrace, worst i've ever seen!

Talk of tomorrow (Tuesday) to migrate to the EU based model which would open up a large chunk of EU.

Problem is Ireland current state isn't exactly great so we might be going nowhere

JojoLoca wrote: »

The updated green list is to be published today and will take an effect from Monday. Sweden, Germany, Poland, Cyprus and few others are to be added to it. I'm flying to Poland next week Sunday, so happy that it is being added to the green list.

But, like you said, Ireland doesn't look good at the moment and some countries will start putting it on their orange/red list soon enough.

Where did you see the list that is due to be published? Id like to book a flight ahead of the list announcement when the flight prices will go up I'm guessing

The government website is updated with the new list: https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/8868e-view-the-covid-19-travel-advice-list/

Jake1 wrote: »

Also, cant really find any info, but is The Netherlands on the green list?

No. Link to the latest version of green list on the post just above yours.

Essentially to avoid restrictions both ways we are only left with Poland and Germany.

Jake1 wrote: »

Im a bit confused. Will it be ok to fly out from Dublin, even though they are saying essential travel only? Will you be questioned at airport, that kind of thing?
Also, cant really find any info, but is The Netherlands on the green list?
Was hoping to go to Rotterdam for a few days, so not sure if it's possible now

No one will question you at the airport...

And Although Ireland doesn't allow Dutch tourists, I don't see anything that suggests Irish visitors are restricted...

https://reopen.europa.eu/en/map/NLD

Jake1 wrote: »

Crap. stuck home for another while then so ANy idea how long this phase three might last, Bob?

The current rule is that any country above 25 cases per 100000 over the past 14 days is excluded from the green list. You can see the figure for all European countries here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Given that most countries are above the threshold already and things seem to be getting worse in most of Europe ATM, unless the rule changes I’d say the list will be shrinking rather than growing over the coming weeks (and perhaps ironically, if other counties are applying the same rule as ours this would exclude Ireland from their green list as we are currently above 25).

But there is also a lot of pressure to change the rule so hard to tell ...

JojoLoca wrote: »

=You are free to fly to non green list countries (including Netherlands), but you will be asked to restrict your movements on the return

No-one will prevent you from flying, but I believe the the government still says travel should be avoided unless it is essential (which I think might have practical implications in terms of things like travel insurance shall something go wrong).