Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

RedRaider0 · 23-09-2020 3:46pm

Buer wrote: »

He already did last season.

that was last, this is this.. he has outgrown 8 in the past year and Soroka and SOB are more likely to play 8 now.

Clegg · 24-09-2020 11:14am

https://twitter.com/KearneyRob/status/1309070960901881857?s=19

sydthebeat · 24-09-2020 11:20am

its not a tear, theres something in my eye...

one of the true greats

Burkie1203 · 24-09-2020 11:25am

Any idea where RK is going

RedRaider0 · 24-09-2020 11:30am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Any idea where RK is going

retirement

yerrahbah · 24-09-2020 11:34am

My bet would be France
https://twitter.com/RuaidhriOC/status/1309074658235424769

sydthebeat · 24-09-2020 11:37am

a season in the shade of Stade Marcel-Deflandre would be enough for any man.

Buer · 24-09-2020 11:40am

Glad to see he's keeping involved and having a crack at something new. Can't be near the same money on the table that he would have commanded pre-Covid.

Watching back the tribute clip and the drop goal in Clermont always stands out. I'm not sure I've seen a drop kick being struck more purely. Given the angle, he was probably around 50m when he struck the ball. I'm always amazed that the ball doesn't just drop over the bar but clears the entire in goal area and reaches around beyond the advertising hoardings.

Exclamation Marc · 24-09-2020 12:06pm

No Dan Leavy in the Leinster A.

Leinster Rugby ‘A’

15. Michael Silvester
14. Tommy O’Brien
13. Jimmy O’Brien
12. Ciarán Frawley
11. Cian Kelleher
10. Harry Byrne
9. Hugh O’Sullivan
1. Peter Dooley
2. James Tracy
3. Ciaran Parker
4. Jack Dunne
5. Charlie Ryan CAPTAIN
6. Josh Murphy
7. Scott Penny
8. Max Deegan

Replacements from:

Tom Clarkson
Niall Comerford
Cormac Foley
David Hawkshaw
Joe McCarthy
John McKee
Michael Milne
Martin Moloney
Ross Molony
Sean O’Brien
Rowan Osborne
Rhys Ruddock
Andrew Smith
Alex Soroka
Liam Turner

arsebiscuits1 · 24-09-2020 12:10pm

Good to see Hawkshaw getting a chance. I thought he was still rehabbing.

Is that a full XV of replacements? As in will they have a first half team and a second half team I wonder

Clegg · 24-09-2020 12:19pm

Wonder what's the matter with Leavy now. Anyway, that's a ridiculous starting backrow for an 'A' game. And Ruddock on the bench too.

No Furlong either. Guess at this stage he won't be ready for Ireland.

sydthebeat · 24-09-2020 12:26pm

Clegg wrote: »

Wonder what's the matter with Leavy now. Anyway, that's a ridiculous starting backrow for an 'A' game. And Ruddock on the bench too.

No Furlong either. Guess at this stage he won't be ready for Ireland.

I was just about to post the same. some talent !

UAEguy2020 · 24-09-2020 12:29pm

The fact Leavy was even mentioned as a potential returnee for this game should indicate he isn’t a million miles away from a return but just wasn’t there yet and wasn’t worth risking in an A game with the pro14 restart pretty close.

Clegg · 24-09-2020 12:33pm

I think H Byrne and Frawley will be our starting 10 and 12 for the opening league fixture. Bedding them in now is a good idea.

Probably the starting front row too.

Burkie1203 · 24-09-2020 12:37pm

https://twitter.com/RuaidhriOC/status/1309093717970747396?s=19

Buer · 24-09-2020 12:40pm

Jesus. Didn't see that coming.

I'll be honest....Super Rugby is not somewhere that I see a 35 year old Rob Kearney excelling. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Sheep Shagger · 24-09-2020 1:04pm

Buer wrote: »

Jesus. Didn't see that coming.

I'll be honest....Super Rugby is not somewhere that I see a 35 year old Rob Kearney excelling. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Mentioned here a couple of weeks back.

Squidgy Black · 24-09-2020 1:06pm

Buer wrote: »

Jesus. Didn't see that coming.

I'll be honest....Super Rugby is not somewhere that I see a 35 year old Rob Kearney excelling. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Great drying weather in Perth for the washing though.

Sheep Shagger · 24-09-2020 1:17pm

Didn't take them long, the ripoff new jerseys are now online. Bought one last season to see what they are like.

Quality was identical at a fraction of the price, comes in Adidas plastic bag with swing tag attached just like in a shop.

Unlike the real thing the Leinster and Adidas logos are embroidered on too.

https://m.dhgate.com/product/2019-2020-leinster-rugby-jersey-19-20-home/472937581.html?invitorid=qmqy6bcd

PMC83 · 24-09-2020 1:19pm

The Force didn't look great in their SA return. Kearney is a good signing for them. Also picked up Tevita Kuridran,a few decent experienced players for next year

sydthebeat · 24-09-2020 1:22pm

Rob can be safe that hes not the oldest member of the squad

all they need now is for the honey badger to make a return

25-09-2020 2:11pm

If Leavy comes through today we may see him against Dragons next week

DonVito · 25-09-2020 2:17pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If Leavy comes through today we may see him against Dragons next week

I don't believe he is playing

StackSteevens · 25-09-2020 2:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If Leavy comes through today we may see him against Dragons next week

See post #7160. No mention of him in either the team or the 15 reserves!

25-09-2020 2:31pm

That's a pity - thought there was a rumour earlier in the week that he was available.

arsebiscuits1 · 25-09-2020 2:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That's a pity - thought there was a rumour earlier in the week that he was available.

There was. Papers even reported it. Few weeks yet sadly

25-09-2020 2:58pm

What's wrong with Furlong?

Squidgy Black · 25-09-2020 3:38pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's wrong with Furlong?

Back injury from carrying the rest of the front row

Clegg · 25-09-2020 4:16pm

No live stream of the A game.

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1309503841084289025?s=19

Clegg · 25-09-2020 8:19pm

Murray Kinsella is live tweeting the game. He's been impressed by Jack Dunne and Tommy O'Brien.

thomond2006 · 25-09-2020 8:49pm

It's bizarre this isn't being streamed. The game is going to be recorded anyway by the teams.

The Lost Sheep · 25-09-2020 8:52pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's bizarre this isn't being streamed. The game is going to be recorded anyway by the teams.

Provinces dont want full games to be shown. Leinster rarely put up full game clips of their A/age grade teams and only put up short clips if that

Clegg · 25-09-2020 8:57pm

Fairly heavy defeat for Leinster A in the end. Should have won that game on paper. Real shame there wasn't a stream to view.

Sheep Shagger · 25-09-2020 9:02pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's bizarre this isn't being streamed. The game is going to be recorded anyway by the teams.

They never are, you get clips at best.

bilston · 25-09-2020 9:02pm

Hopefully we get some highlights.

Not often any of our teams beat you guys in Dublin!

scott1974 · 25-09-2020 9:34pm

bilston wrote: »

Hopefully we get some highlights.

Not often any of our teams beat you guys in Dublin!

The highlights are up.

https://youtu.be/IJ2AWtXg-Jo

bilston · 25-09-2020 9:41pm

scott1974 wrote: »

The highlights are up.

https://youtu.be/IJ2AWtXg-Jo

Ooooohhhh...that was just mean

Paul Smeenus · 25-09-2020 9:44pm

scott1974 wrote: »

The highlights are up.

https://youtu.be/IJ2AWtXg-Jo

You're always living in the past, Scott. Quit living in the past.

salmocab · 25-09-2020 9:48pm

bilston wrote: »

Hopefully we get some highlights.

Not often any of our teams beat you guys in Dublin!

If I didn’t see it it didn’t happen

degsie · 25-09-2020 10:40pm

Clegg wrote: »

Fairly heavy defeat for Leinster A in the end. Should have won that game on paper.

Pity that they were playing on grass! :pac:

Tomtom364 · 26-09-2020 2:38am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Provinces dont want full games to be shown. Leinster rarely put up full game clips of their A/age grade teams and only put up short clips if that

With no crowds possible at the games it makes sense to stream them.

Connacht Vs Munster last week was streamed and is still available.

Munster Vs Connacht today is being streamed.

Clegg · 26-09-2020 4:48pm

The lengths some people will go to defend Saracens actions.

https://twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1309864847836934145?s=19

arsebiscuits1 · 26-09-2020 4:58pm

Clegg wrote: »

The lengths some people will go to defend Saracens actions.

https://twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1309864847836934145?s=19

"Change required"

English people demanding the competition changes as opposed to playing what's in front of them. Where have we heard that before.........

sydthebeat · 26-09-2020 5:06pm

Leinster don't spend anything near what he French clubs spend.

English problem is they spend more than they can afford.

Why raise the salary cap when your club is neck deep in debt

Squidgy Black · 26-09-2020 5:14pm

Did it to compete in Europe but had no problem picking up domestic titles where the rest of the teams abided by the cap.

Riiiiiiiiight......

Buer · 26-09-2020 7:16pm

Clegg wrote: »

The lengths some people will go to defend Saracens actions.

https://twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1309864847836934145?s=19

Very much not an uncommon opinion which has gathered significant traction since Saracens were relegated.

Let's be honest, there's a good chance that the overall salary bill of Leinster exceeds the Premiership cap. But it's going to be thereabouts and certainly not in the same ball park as French teams. People outside of Ireland have a wildly misguided view on how much an average player in Ireland earns.

Burkie1203 · 26-09-2020 7:28pm

Last year's pro14 final is on tg4. 10 min in

thomond2006 · 26-09-2020 8:05pm

If you proportion the central contract spend by the IRFU, I'm fairly certain the provinces exceed the Premiership cap amount.

KH25 · 26-09-2020 9:18pm

Clegg wrote: »

The lengths some people will go to defend Saracens actions.

https://twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1309864847836934145?s=19

Ah yeah, blame everyone else for an English team breaking English rules. Makes sense. If it were a French or Irish team in Saracens place they wouldn’t get the same excuses thrown at them.

Burkie1203 · 26-09-2020 9:33pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

If you proportion the central contract spend by the IRFU, I'm fairly certain the provinces exceed the Premiership cap amount.

In Euro
€8.2m Cap
2 x Marquee Players with no limit but lets says they are €500k each

That's €9.2m, and then add in
€600k academy credits
€400k injury allowance
€80k per England International Call ups (say an average of 4 players per club = €320k)

That's €10.6m.

Now factor in that English clubs can sign whoever the hell they want. Exeter have 60 players listed on their website. How many of them were developed locally and how many are bought in?

Saracens come from a city with a population of almost 9m people. That's ~2.3m more then then whole 32 counties of Ireland. They share that city with only 2/3 other clubs over the last decade. Again what limitations are they operating under with regard to Player development that say Leinster operate under?

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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