Green Bay Packers Thread

Blut2 · 07-04-2020 11:07pm

The Packers were one game away from the Superbowl last season. They should definitely roll the dice and go "win now" this season, its probably the last chance for 5 years.

I don't think they will win because of the weaknesses elsewhere in the team, but even if the win now attempt this season doesn't work out, and the team fails badly, at least in that scenario the 1st round pick for next season will likely be much higher than this years. So it wouldn't cost quite as much to trade up to get an actual top QB prospect.

He'd still have a season to learn and mature under AR, and possibly a second season if AR could be negotiated into a reasonable "final year" deal after the current break clause.

UnitedIrishman · 24-04-2020 5:03am

Blut2 wrote: »

The Packers were one game away from the Superbowl last season. They should definitely roll the dice and go "win now" this season, its probably the last chance for 5 years.

I don't think they will win because of the weaknesses elsewhere in the team, but even if the win now attempt this season doesn't work out, and the team fails badly, at least in that scenario the 1st round pick for next season will likely be much higher than this years. So it wouldn't cost quite as much to trade up to get an actual top QB prospect.

He'd still have a season to learn and mature under AR, and possibly a second season if AR could be negotiated into a reasonable "final year" deal after the current break clause.

Unless they have a phenomenal rest of draft, Packers have once again pissed away an opportunity to give Rodgers the tools he needs.

Really really don't get the choice of Love. They are basically saying Rodgers is done in 3 years.

Foxtrol · 24-04-2020 5:19am

No upside in the short term at all and just brings drama into the team

raze_them_all_ · 24-04-2020 6:59am

I'm actually happy enough with that. I always prefer when a team looks to the future sensibly.

Brendan Bendar · 24-04-2020 11:23am

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Unless they have a phenomenal rest of draft, Packers have once again pissed away an opportunity to give Rodgers the tools he needs.

Really really don't get the choice of Love. They are basically saying Rodgers is done in 3 years.

How do you know that?

How do you know a high ranked, let’s say receiver, will be a success?

For me, planning for QB future is prudent, you have to pull the QB trigger at some stage, not when Rogers is on his last legs.

Doing it now gives the team a chance evaluate, check what they have and plan for whatever that outcome is.

While it may not be a popular pick I think it’s a good one.

pedatron · 24-04-2020 2:09pm

cosatron · 24-04-2020 3:04pm

pedatron wrote: »

ha, the funny thing about this, considering all the great receivers we've had, we haven't drafted a wide receiver in the first round since 2002, hard to believe. So maybe the ron wolf/ted Thompson school of thought don't value wide recievers.

digzy · 24-04-2020 4:21pm

I really don’t get this ‘ packers don’t value line backers’.
Our corners ain’t exactly world class either & we’ve drafted enough over the years!

Our lb group even if Kirksey stays fit looks very underwhelming.

cosatron · 24-04-2020 4:33pm

digzy wrote: »

I really don’t get this ‘ packers don’t value line backers’.
Our corners ain’t exactly world class either & we’ve drafted enough over the years!

Our lb group even if Kirksey stays fit looks very underwhelming.

when watching the draft this morning and seen the trade I was full sure it was for Queen but then they had love's house on the screen and his girlfriend or sister was wiping a tear from her eye and knew then they were drafting him. Still allot of good value today, hoping for a linebacker and wide receiver

D9Male · 24-04-2020 5:57pm

Bucky Brooks said it. Don't go shopping when you're hungry. It worked for Favre -> Brady so I find it hard to be too critical.

Love is definitely "toolsy" given all I have read about him. But "boom or bust" written all over him.

Brendan Bendar · 24-04-2020 6:22pm

D9Male wrote: »

Bucky Brooks said it. Don't go shopping when you're hungry. It worked for Favre -> Brady so I find it hard to be too critical.

Love is definitely "toolsy" given all I have read about him. But "boom or bust" written all over him.

Boom or bust is written over everyone,as far a I can see it.

Ok, Rogers isn’t going to last forever, nobody is.

He has to be replaced at some stage and there has to be some kind of plan for a permanent replacement, not a temporary stand in.

Given the Packers have been solid as a rock at QB since at least the the Favre era and have been a winning season(more and less) why not continue the strategy.

Short of tanking a season the Packers won’t get a top of the range QB, so stop the fchurrke expecting that.

I feel the receiving corps is very good. There will be offloads but it’s well populated with big good( not great) players. apart from 17.

So... I’m good with that ......

UnitedIrishman · 25-04-2020 4:11am

I get the whole Rodgers isn't going to last forever thing. But any chance we could give him something to work with whilst we do have him? We were good last season but the 49ers game showed some glaring holes that we need to fill. Getting a backup QB, and now a RB when we have Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams?

To me it's as if they're saying they are moving on from Rodgers in a couple of seasons.

Edit - and now just drafted a TE that most had as a late round prospect. I hate to be negative, and I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I think this draft may end up being a disaster.

raze_them_all_ · 25-04-2020 5:51am

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

I get the whole Rodgers isn't going to last forever thing. But any chance we could give him something to work with whilst we do have him? We were good last season but the 49ers game showed some glaring holes that we need to fill. Getting a backup QB, and now a RB when we have Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams?

To me it's as if they're saying they are moving on from Rodgers in a couple of seasons.

Edit - and now just drafted a TE that most had as a late round prospect. I hate to be negative, and I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I think this draft may end up being a disaster.

Rodgers will be 40 in a few seasons. You want to move on from them. And Jones or Williams will be gone once their contract is up, hard to see us holding onto both, my brai says williams

Jofspring · 25-04-2020 7:40am

Why do people treat the draft like it's make or break for a team? Fair enough you can get some talent out of it but you can also pick up some very good players in free agency and trades. There are also a lot of duds that come out of the draft.

Last season Rodgers stayed healthy but the previous 2 seasons he has been very injury prone. All it takes is one hit and his season could be over. They need to be looking at cover here also.

If we could pick up another solid receiver and maybe an experienced TE before the season starts then I don't think we will have done too bad. Certainly not as bad as some are making out.

raze_them_all_ · 25-04-2020 8:30am

Jofspring wrote: »

Why do people treat the draft like it's make or break for a team? Fair enough you can get some talent out of it but you can also pick up some very good players in free agency and trades. There are also a lot of duds that come out of the draft.

Last season Rodgers stayed healthy but the previous 2 seasons he has been very injury prone. All it takes is one hit and his season could be over. They need to be looking at cover here also.

If we could pick up another solid receiver and maybe an experienced TE before the season starts then I don't think we will have done too bad. Certainly not as bad as some are making out.

I'd also like another lb. We're a bit meh there. Te I can live without for another season see if one if ours can step up

Blut2 · 25-04-2020 12:01pm

Pretty bizarre day one and two so far. I can see the logic behind getting a QB, but as I posted before I think next year would have been better timing-wise. If Rodgers is still playing well in 2 years time when we hit the break clause in his contract its going to create a huge Favre-saga esque headache: do you let Rodgers go despite him still playing well? Do you keep Rodgers, and waste the value years of Love's rookie contract?

I know Rodgers will be 38 at that stage, but thats no longer a guarantee that he'll be a goner with top tier QBs - so many of them are still playing well at that age these days.

But then last night taking a RB to be 3rd string when there are plenty of positions in far more need of players...and taking both him and a TE way ahead of where they were projected to go in every analysis?

In two years time we'll either look back on it as a masterful draft that completely surprised everyone's expectations. Or else a complete failure.

Jofspring · 25-04-2020 12:36pm

Reading reports on it they are saying Packers were extremely keen on getting Love in and didn't want to let him pass. Obviously they weighed up QB's coming through in the next two years and felt Love was worth the pick now rather than wait and see.

As mentioned it's either a genius move long term or will seriously backfire. At the end of the day the coach and GM are putting their necks on the line so you have to trust they think it's worth it.

Jofspring · 26-04-2020 8:32am

Surely a trade on the cards now for a WR? You'd have to imagine they are looking at someone.

raze_them_all_ · 26-04-2020 9:20am

Has to be. Has to be a trade.

Blut2 · 26-04-2020 11:19am

I'd love to see a gamble taken on Dez Bryant. If they could get him on a mostly performance based/pay-to-play contract he'd be worth it.

Brendan Bendar · 26-04-2020 12:04pm

Blut2 wrote: »

I'd love to see a gamble taken on Dez Bryant. If they could get him on a mostly performance based/pay-to-play contract he'd be worth it.

Possibly...but fairly clear they expect more production from the about 6 receivers they have for next season.

cosatron · 26-04-2020 12:29pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Possibly...but fairly clear they expect more production from the about 6 receivers they have for next season.

I think this is it. They expect more from Lazard, mvs and with st brown coming back and fuchess added, funnily enough the patriots with a similar wide receiver group didn’t draft any wide receiver either, so maybe this group is deep but not as highly touted. In terms of the draft, I think we will be leaning more in the run game and use allot more play action. I like the guard from Michigan

Brendan Bendar · 26-04-2020 12:57pm

cosatron wrote: »

I think this is it. They expect more from Lazard, mvs and with st brown coming back and fuchess added, funnily enough the patriots with a similar wide receiver group didn’t draft any wide receiver either, so maybe this group is deep but not as highly touted. In terms of the draft, I think we will be leaning more in the run game and use allot more play action. I like the guard from Michigan

Don’t forget Kumerow TE Sternberger, the punt return guy, and AaaronJones can catch too.

Blut2 · 29-07-2020 3:18pm

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I guess Funchess won't be making much of an impact this season anyway...

peejay1986 · 29-07-2020 4:45pm

Understandable from his point of view, but a big shame. Was looking forward to seeing how he fit into our system.

Brendan Bendar · 29-07-2020 7:28pm

Yes, but not the worst guy who could opt out

Respect his decision, but really not a season changing event.

Brendan Bendar · 04-09-2020 4:43pm

Oooooooookaaay

Almost ready to rumble

Let’s look at the O-Line

As I see it

Bachtiari....Jenkins....Linsley....Taylor....Turner.

Wagner seems injured but how does that look.

Now moving on..... any ‘big names’ likely to be cut tomorrow Sat.

Go Packers....

ScummyMan · 04-09-2020 8:02pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Oooooooookaaay

Almost ready to rumble

Let’s look at the O-Line

As I see it

Bachtiari....Jenkins....Linsley....Taylor....Turner.

Wagner seems injured but how does that look.

Now moving on..... any ‘big names’ likely to be cut tomorrow Sat.

Go Packers....

Turner has a knee injury, likely to miss at least some of the season

Right side of the line looking very ropey to me, especially playing Minnesota week 1

Brendan Bendar · 08-09-2020 9:09pm

ScummyMan wrote: »

Turner has a knee injury, likely to miss at least some of the season

Right side of the line looking very ropey to me, especially playing Minnesota week 1

Me too, looks like Lane Taylor at RG .its the RT spot that worries me.

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 4:52pm

WTF!!!!

ESB inactive again......what’s wrong with that tool.

FFS!!

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 5:38pm

Looks like Jenkins starting at RT

Bak-Lucas-Corey-Lane-Elgton

Fcukkker ‘ell.

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 6:47pm

Not good so far..... should be 14 - 7 up.

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 7:07pm

Should be 21-7 up

raze_them_all_ · 13-09-2020 7:49pm

Rodgers last 2 mins saved that half

Brendan Bendar · 13-09-2020 8:32pm

They think it’s all over.......

No yet..... need a score on this drive.

Jofspring · 13-09-2020 10:23pm

Very good win. I didn't think we would go to Minnesota and come away with the win to be honest.

raze_them_all_ · 13-09-2020 10:57pm

Jofspring wrote: »

Very good win. I didn't think we would go to Minnesota and come away with the win to be honest.

I did, no matter what we own that division until rodgers retired and stays injury free

digzy · 14-09-2020 1:09pm

Run defence was sh1t again. D kept coughing up scores too. Great to see the offence rolling like that.
A win on the road against a divisional rival....I’ll take that!

cosatron · 14-09-2020 3:31pm

good performance from the offence, a bit of everything which is nice to see. i don't want to tempt faith but Aaron looks back to his old self, the throw to Adams for the first td was a beaut, vintage Rodgers. the defence held the vikings to 10 points over 3 quarters and im hoping they just took there foot of the gas for the final quarter. go pack go.

Brendan Bendar · 14-09-2020 6:26pm

cosatron wrote: »

good performance from the offence, a bit of everything which is nice to see. i don't want to tempt faith but Aaron looks back to his old self, the throw to Adams for the first td was a beaut, vintage Rodgers. the defence held the vikings to 10 points over 3 quarters and im hoping they just took there foot of the gas for the final quarter. go pack go.

Yes, as I saw it too, Kenny Clarke injury was a factor I’m sure.

However, how the Vikes carved thru the Packers D in quarter four was concerning.

Thielen roasted Jaire big and I mean big... so let’s not get too cocky.

Brendan Bendar · 15-09-2020 8:36am

Lane Taylor out for the season.

peejay1986 · 16-09-2020 4:37pm

I'm going with the "no news is good news" for Kenny Clark at the minute. Hopefully that's the case!

Brendan Bendar · 16-09-2020 4:43pm

Luckily we are hitting the Lions when their injury list in the secondary is fairly long.

Would expect a fairly routine win.

Then the boy Thomas for the Saints is out for several weeks..........

16-09-2020 4:51pm

Anyone think this could be like last season when the Packers racked up a pretty impressive record without being particularly impressive or ever really looking like contenders...

Brendan Bendar · 16-09-2020 4:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone think this could be like last season when the Packers racked up a pretty impressive record without being particularly impressive or ever really looking like contenders...

No, meeting a lot more top tier QBs this year.

11-5 would be good.

peejay1986 · 16-09-2020 4:55pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No, meeting a lot more top tier QBs this year.

11-5 would be good.

I'd agree with this. It's a tougher schedule this year so I wouldn't expect the record to be as impressive as last year. In saying that, I think we're in better shape than previous.

cosatron · 16-09-2020 10:03pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone think this could be like last season when the Packers racked up a pretty impressive record without being particularly impressive or ever really looking like contenders...

No I’m completely on Rodgers is back hype train and I’m going to ride that train all the way to the Super Bowl

Brendan Bendar · 18-09-2020 8:37pm

Kenny Clark out for Lions.......hopefully won’t make a huge difference.

What the Packers have to do

1....Get to Stafford

2... Stop Peterson.

Would make it much easier.

Brendan Bendar · 20-09-2020 6:43pm

Terrible Quarter 1

Stafford un touched..... getting gouged down the middle again.......

Brendan Bendar · 21-09-2020 6:50am

Good win in the end, but those drops........

Lot of work to do...

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