The it's offensive society.

Stonedpilot · 01-05-2018 2:56pm

Mutant z wrote: »

It hapoens all the time though someone doesnt like what someone says on Twitter and the like and they are calling for them to be banned much like on the radio as was the case of the witch hunt of George Hook because he had an opinion someone didnt like it seems that those with views that dont concur with the narative are fair game to be slaughtered and petitions called for their removal its very sinister stuff.

Its crazy. People are infantile children online. Seen one guy get dogs abuse and being called a paedophile as he had the gall to say the paedo hunter vigilante type gangs are not within their rights to get physical with those accused of stuff.

The politically correct mob are slowly marching to a scenario that would make Nazi Germany look tame and timid.

You cant say this you cant do that.

Met man who hands out Vote No flyers in the upcoming Referendum. He now has to wear a bodycam as he fears another attack. He should be allowed express his views

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-05-2018 2:58pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Is the OP, now bear with me here, is the OP offended by people being offended? :pac:

This original thought was posted ten times on the thread already.

wes · 01-05-2018 3:02pm

Maxpfizer wrote: »

Saying that it's just a consequence of having free speech feels a bit "off" to me.

It is a consequence of free speech. Free speech is not inherently always good. You will have all kinds of people spouting off about stuff they have no clue about. The best you can do is argue back at them, or wait for it to inevitably blow over.

Boom_Bap · 01-05-2018 3:03pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This original thought was posted ten times on the thread already.

ah now Franz, it hasn't though.

wes · 01-05-2018 3:06pm

Maxpfizer wrote: »

My concern would be that the new wave of "cultural critics" such as the creator of this documentary do seem to be having some kind of influence on the culture.

So it's more likely, in my view, that shows will pander to these new criticisms rather than skewer them because every time they respond there seems to be a new wave of outrage and "the mob will always be there" so why not just bend the knee?

In the case of the Simpsons they haven't and if they can successfully argue there point to change someones mind then they clearly had a convincing argument.

Maxpfizer wrote: »

People will speak up about it especially when they think it's a stupid criticism and your reaction amounts to little more than "just shut up about it".

No, I am taking the piss of the people who are complaining about someone being offended, even after the person said they weren't offended, and pointing at the over the top childish crap that people are saying, that you have for whatever reason chosen to ignore. People who refuse to engage with a critique or misrepresent what is being said, deserve to be called on it. This thread is ironically a perfect example of exactly what the OP is complaining about. Someone being offended about something.

jimgoose · 01-05-2018 3:30pm

valoren · 01-05-2018 3:42pm

The Monty Python criticism and offence is actually interesting. The scenes with the 'real' Messiah were done very respectfully and the film in no way is mocking of Jesus at all. What the group were actually mocking and targetting were the gullible and easily lead i.e. those who believed for the sake of believing irregardless of how ridiculous it might be and believed unquestionably. But the moral guardians and religious, knowing that, chose to deflect from it and instead accused the team of attacking religion and were mocking Christ himself and thus blaspehmous. Many actually hadn't seen the film at all, unaware of the actual content and attacked it viciously which completely vindicated the whole premise and core message itself and makes it such a brilliant film.

jimgoose · 01-05-2018 3:45pm

valoren wrote: »

The Monty Python criticism and offence is actually interesting. The scenes with the 'real' Messiah were done very respectfully and the film in no way is mocking of Jesus at all. What the group were actually mocking and targetting were the gullible and easily lead i.e. those who believed for the sake of believing irregardless of how ridiculous it might be. But the moral guardians and religions, knowing that, chose to deflect and instead accused the team of attacking religion and were mocking Christ himself. Many actually hadn't seen the film at all and attacked it which completely vindicated the whole premise and core message itself and makes it such a brilliant film.

The Church now, there's an outfit that always had a plentiful supply of Fifth Monkeys. :pac::pac::pac:

Irish Guitarist · 01-05-2018 4:15pm

One of the ones offended by Apu is Kal Penn. He's in Dedicated Survivor and I think he has some input into the storylines. In every episode there's a monologue by the president about why America is great. It's written like an inspiring speech but it's supposedly a spontaneous conversation that just came off the top of his head, as if all good presidents constantly talk like they're giving the Gettysburg Address. You can tell a mile away it's trying to show a president acting the exact opposite of how Trump acts. There's barely any story to it. It's a depressing look at how television is going.

Badly Drunk Boy · 01-05-2018 5:04pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Is the OP, now bear with me here, is the OP offended by people being offended? :pac:

I don't know, but I'd say he's more annoyed than offended. And why wouldn't you be?

The Legend Of Kira · 01-05-2018 5:23pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

So if I say I'm completely in favour of abortion and 100% against gay marriage, that's OK cause freedom of speech?

Well you've made that comment and not been arrested haven't you?

You're free to voice your opinions, others are free to disagree with them.

Yes people are free to disagree with someones opinion,, disagreement is not an issue- what is an issue though doxxing/harassment when some people set out trying to cost someone,s right to earn an living by trying to get someone fired from their job for the thoughtcrime of having a different opinion.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 01-05-2018 5:34pm

There has been a massive pushback against this type of thing in recent years though.

Trump was elected off the back of it.

What interested me is that many media outlets doubled down on the agenda in the aftermath instead of trying to understand their role in making it happen.

Sonics2k · 01-05-2018 6:14pm

It's ironic hearing this complaint, when one of the biggest current "it's offensive" issues at the moment is Michelle Wolf.

wes · 01-05-2018 6:17pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There has been a massive pushback against this type of thing in recent years though.

Trump was elected off the back of it.

What interested me is that many media outlets doubled down on the agenda in the aftermath instead of trying to understand their role in making it happen.

If someone voted for Trump, after someone criticized a cartoon, then I think that person probably would have voted for him in anyways..........

I do agree that the media did play a role in electing Trump, and that was giving him all the free air time, and there cowardice in tackling the crap he said. There still at after all the attack he has made on the media. They show the clown far to much respect, when he shows no one any respect.

The Legend Of Kira · 01-05-2018 6:51pm

Declan Ganley posted this tweet yesterday highlighting tweets posted at him using photoshopped images mocking him & others for their religious beliefs.

https://twitter.com/declanganley/status/991113352163282944

Now lets reverse the roles a bit imagine if a someone a public figure of the islamic faith had similar stuff tweeted at them being mocked for religious beliefs. chances are some left wing groups would be going on about so called " Islamophobia " "hate speech" etc, but when catholic beliefs are mocked most people don,t care- Im not offended by the photoshopped images, what I do hate is double standards with some people would be crying " hate speech" if islam was mocked but silent when non islamic beliefs are mocked.

Irish Guitarist · 01-05-2018 6:53pm

What is really ridiculous is that only certain people have to apologise for causing offence. The series Making A Murderer has a gay character and there are often sex scenes that are just there, they do nothing to advance the plot. People have sent messages to the woman who produces the series about this. They haven't even said anything derogatory, just that the sex scenes don't have anything to do with the story and are unnecessary. Her response is that she doesn't want bigots watching her programs.

https://twitter.com/shondarhimes/status/523939765771436032?lang=en

If this was the other way round and someone demanded more gay representation from a producer of a program they'd most likely apologise and a few weeks later they would get their wish.

TheQuietFella · 01-05-2018 6:55pm

I blame the Jews for all of this!

Hande hoche! · 01-05-2018 7:55pm

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

One of the ones offended by Apu is Kal Penn. He's in Dedicated Survivor and I think he has some input into the storylines. In every episode there's a monologue by the president about why America is great. It's written like an inspiring speech but it's supposedly a spontaneous conversation that just came off the top of his head, as if all good presidents constantly talk like they're giving the Gettysburg Address. You can tell a mile away it's trying to show a president acting the exact opposite of how Trump acts. There's barely any story to it. It's a depressing look at how television is going.

Also given that he worked for the Obama administration, he probably sees the Trump presidency as a repudiation to his efforts. All the same glad I bailed on that show after the first season.

lawred2 · 01-05-2018 8:50pm

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

One of the ones offended by Apu is Kal Penn. He's in Dedicated Survivor and I think he has some input into the storylines. In every episode there's a monologue by the president about why America is great. It's written like an inspiring speech but it's supposedly a spontaneous conversation that just came off the top of his head, as if all good presidents constantly talk like they're giving the Gettysburg Address. You can tell a mile away it's trying to show a president acting the exact opposite of how Trump acts. There's barely any story to it. It's a depressing look at how television is going.

Dedicated Survivor is such contrived horse manure...

whisky_galore · 02-05-2018 8:34am

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

Declan Ganley posted this tweet yesterday highlighting tweets posted at him using photoshopped images mocking him & others for their religious beliefs.

https://twitter.com/declanganley/status/991113352163282944

Now lets reverse the roles a bit imagine if a someone a public figure of the islamic faith had similar stuff tweeted at them being mocked for religious beliefs. chances are some left wing groups would be going on about so called " Islamophobia " "hate speech" etc, but when catholic beliefs are mocked most people don,t care- Im not offended by the photoshopped images, what I do hate is double standards with some people would be crying " hate speech" if islam was mocked but silent when non islamic beliefs are mocked.

Says more about the puerile depths that the level of debate has sunk to.

BBDBB · 02-05-2018 8:53am

"Just because you are offended it doesn't mean you are right" - Ricky Gervais from Humanity

The it's offensive society.

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