Originally Posted by Folkstonian
Not very good at all? Crikey. I’m not sure where you set the bar for being a good player, but it must be outrageously high.
Not as good as France, absolutely. Not as good as Croatia, most likely. Not very good at all? Absolutely daft. You only have to look at the clubs most of the England team play for. They might not be the big names of a decade ago, but they still belong to Spurs, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Leicester City amongst others.
They’ve exceeded expectation to get this far, but they aren’t a ‘not very good at all’ group of players.
Your Germans, on the other hand...
Hard luck tonight. Looked good for a while but a couple of key players caught an off day. Otherwise it would have been enough I think.
When I say not very good at all I mean they are not very good. Literally. Which is not saying they're bad. They're good even. Just not very good.
Jeez I sound like Eamon Dunphy now. Sorry the way I phrased that might have been a bit arseways. But I think I was pretty spot on all the same looking at today's game.
They have a solid professional squad with a few very nice players thrown into the mix. But when Henderson is your cover and distributor that is not very good at all. Or when Lingaard is supposed to be the man who carries or passes it into the top thats not very good at all. Delle Alli could be a great player. He looked to be carrying something, never got into gear all through the tournament.
As for my Germans. Well, they are by and large still pretty good. They just weren't arsed. Which is worse tbh. England would have beaten them handy. Thank fk it didn't come to that. Going out in the groups saved us from further embarrassment*.
And we're not even done with the embarrassment yet. People making fools of themselves trying to find reasons and cures and scapegoats. Getting ugly and stupid. It'll be a while before we contend for another one.
Edit: *not that being beaten by England would be an embarrassment itself. Just a rivalry thing. Germany doesnt want to be beaten by Holland, Austria, England.