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30-08-2019, 22:59   #1
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30-08-2019, 23:18   #2
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That it's going to be a crowdfunded game is ... ... surprising. Honestly I don't trust Gearbox in the first place as a company, and the idea alone of a AAA using crowdfunding for a game feels deeply cynical.

Love Homeworld, and the idea of a new RTS in the world, but without knowing the finer details, there's just no way I'll contribute to this campaign.
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The crowdfunding of this is very peculiar. Gearbox should be very flush from cash from the Epic Games payment for Borderlands 3, with loads more to come from the actual release, yet they aren't financing it themselves?
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Looking at the fig page they look more like special edition rewards rather than funding the actual game?

The funding goal is only a dollar

They do say its very early in development atm though so it may be to guage interest in the game. A good homeworld game is always a good thing in my book though so hopefully it works out
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Crowdfunding has just become a way of gauging interest and getting free promotion. They are financing it themselves. You see it all the time now with major companies, crowdfunding with minor goals that wouldn't be a drop in the ocean of actual development overhead.
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Crowdfunding has just become a way of gauging interest and getting free promotion. They are financing it themselves. You see it all the time now with major companies, crowdfunding with minor goals that wouldn't be a drop in the ocean of actual development overhead.
As I type the campaign has amassed 250,000 dollars, so if what you say is true Gearbox have basically garnered a ¼ million quid on goodwill donations - money they scarcely need for a game they're well capable of making themselves. It flies in the face of what crowdfunding is meant to be there for IMO.

Hell the cynic in me automatically wonders how much of the final total will go straight in Randy Pitchfords pocket. Anyone can gauge interest for free, Gearbox are just following in the footsteps of AAA industry and nickel & dining the market
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As I type the campaign has amassed 250,000 dollars, so if what you say is true Gearbox have basically garnered a ¼ million quid on goodwill donations - money they scarcely need for a game they're well capable of making themselves. It flies in the face of what crowdfunding is meant to be there for IMO.

Hell the cynic in me automatically wonders how much of the final total will go straight in Randy Pitchfords pocket. Anyone can gauge interest for free, Gearbox are just following in the footsteps of AAA industry and nickel & dining the market
Not really seeing how its different from people pre ordering the game?

I dont usually pre order these days but there is a load of people who still do.
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The crowdfunding of this is very peculiar. Gearbox should be very flush from cash from the Epic Games payment for Borderlands 3, with loads more to come from the actual release, yet they aren't financing it themselves?
They are financing it themselves, the current amount of $252,880 is probably enough to pay the salaries for what, three senior employees for a year of dev time?

Generally speaking, folk need to remember that this isn't just about crowd funding for the game, it's on Fig so it serves two additional purposes - it provides investment opportunities for backers at the $500 level and, arguably of greater importance, it will generate interest in not just the game but for Fig as a platform.

Why are these relevant? Well, in the former case, as I mentioned in the Gaming News thread, this has already worked out quite well for investors in Phoenix Point based on current levels of ROI. As for Fig, Pitchford himself has been on the Advisory Board of the company since last year so the presence of such a high profile title will most certainly aid in increasing the profile of the site.
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Hmm, never have i been so happy and worried at the same time. It'll almost certainly be an Epic Store exclusive (which i really dislike, even if the hate it gets is way over the top at this stage), and i don't particularly like the crowdfunding/fig aspect, but damn if i'm not excited to see a new Homeworld game.

If they **** it up, i'll be more then a little bit mad
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Not really seeing how its different from people pre ordering the game?

I dont usually pre order these days but there is a load of people who still do.
Lots of people still smoke, doesn't make it a smart move

The campaign's up to $440,000 now as I read it.

It's mostly an issue of principle: crowdfunding is a communal concept for small studios to chase funds and support; equally the notion of ordinary people 'investing' in a game brings with it a sense of transparency and community (not always of course, but often they do) not necessarily common with the industry.

AAA companies using it to basically get free money they don't need feels deeply cynical (just checking the FIG, and 19 backers have gone in at the $1000 level). Given every second news story is about some shady ass way a AAA company is gouging users, or using gambling methodologies to nickel & dime folks, I'm not convinced this isn't another flavour of this behaviour. With Randy Pitchford involved, I just automatically assume the money will find its way into his pocket.
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Lots of people still smoke, doesn't make it a smart move

The campaign's up to $440,000 now as I read it.

It's mostly an issue of principle: crowdfunding is a communal concept for small studios to chase funds and support; equally the notion of ordinary people 'investing' in a game brings with it a sense of transparency and community (not always of course, but often they do) not necessarily common with the industry.

AAA companies using it to basically get free money they don't need feels deeply cynical (just checking the FIG, and 19 backers have gone in at the $1000 level). Given every second news story is about some shady ass way a AAA company is gouging users, or using gambling methodologies to nickel & dime folks, I'm not convinced this isn't another flavour of this behaviour. With Randy Pitchford involved, I just automatically assume the money will find its way into his pocket.
I think there will come a tipping point where buying digital stuff in discrete transactions virtually disappears.

The patronage, freemium or subscription models make more sense for work that is valued not in what it produces (because software is worthless and can be duplicated infinitely and transmitted virtually for free) but in the labour as its happening.

Ultimately, I don't give a **** as long as the game gets made and is good.
The issues arise with this if you see something like Star Citizen, where it almost looks like a cult at this stage, or a game where the individual just pockets all the money invested in it.

I'd rather have an environment where relatively small but really passionate communities can be catered to with relatively niche content, rather than that not being the case.

I certainly don't trust Randy Pitchford. He comes across as a serious piece of ****. We'll just have to see how it plays out.
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Lots of people still smoke, doesn't make it a smart move

The campaign's up to $440,000 now as I read it.

It's mostly an issue of principle: crowdfunding is a communal concept for small studios to chase funds and support; equally the notion of ordinary people 'investing' in a game brings with it a sense of transparency and community (not always of course, but often they do) not necessarily common with the industry.

AAA companies using it to basically get free money they don't need feels deeply cynical (just checking the FIG, and 19 backers have gone in at the $1000 level). Given every second news story is about some shady ass way a AAA company is gouging users, or using gambling methodologies to nickel & dime folks, I'm not convinced this isn't another flavour of this behaviour. With Randy Pitchford involved, I just automatically assume the money will find its way into his pocket.
Never said it was a smart move,just that people still do it.

Not sure how its free money,people who pay will be due a copy of the game. Just like any other pre order. Whats the difference in having a €1000 collectors edition that sells on amazon for pre order or selling it via fig?

I certainly wont be putting my money down but if people want to who am i to tell them its a bad idea even if i think its too early to put miney down.

Seems you have decided what you feel crowdfunding is,fair enough. But im not seeing how this is a crowdfunded game when the goal is $1. Nobody has to invest,the game will still be made
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Not a fan of the wobble from the barrel. Makes it look a bit silly.
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Yeah, the animation of the frigate weapon itself isn't great, but the particle effects and ship damage...that looks amazing.

Seeing weapons punch through the hull is something i will never not love to see.
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