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Best Route to Reconnect Meath, Cavan and Monaghan To The Irish Rail Network

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  • 19-01-2009 12:36pm
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    lynchiered
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    Was doing some thinking during the weekend Regarding the best and most economical Route for a railway line to reconnect Meath Cavan Monaghan onto the Irish Rail network and taking into account the proposed New Navan Service.

    Below is my Proposed Route and Population Figures for the areas, would be interested if people can give some feedback or alternative routes.

    Dublin
    Blanchardstown 65,000
    Clonsilla 7,000
    Dunboyne 6,000
    Dunshaughlin 5,000
    Trim 9,000
    Navan 25,000
    Kells 3,000
    Virginia 4,000
    Cavan 5,000
    Clones 2,000
    Monaghan 8,000
    Portadown 24,000
    Belfast ?
    Derry ?


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    Zebra3
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    lynchiered wrote: »
    Kells 3,000
    Virginia 4,000
    Cavan 5,000
    Clones 2,000
    Monaghan 8,000

    Maybe we should worry about connecting places like Swords and one of the biggest employment areas in the state (Dublin Airport) by rail first....


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    lynchiered
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭lynchiered


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Maybe we should worry about connecting places like Swords and one of the biggest employment areas in the state (Dublin Airport) by rail first....

    Agree, this is just a if it was going to happen scenario, Wat would be the best route?


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    IIMII
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    :)

    I don't know, but I'd be inclinded towards pointing it towards Derry rather than Belfast. That top left-hand side corner is a bit desolete, and Belfast already has a number of railways.

    I'd love to see a complete upgrade of the N3/N2 corridor all the way to Derry. It wouldn't have to be HQDC - bypasses, climbing lanes etc would do wonders

    But in relation to rail, whew where do you start. If your objective was say a express line linking Derry to Dublin directly, that's one arguement. If it's more of a commuter line to serve Cavan on the way that's another.

    I think when the good (or better) times eventually come back, planning guidlines are going to focus growth around the cities (or at least to within 30 miles or so of Dublin ie Drogheda, Navan, Kilcock, Naas/Newbridge, Arklow) to prevent the low density population spill into Cavan/South Ulster

    You could argue for a Derry Dublin link (you'd probably get along better with that than a Dublin-Cavan link) but you'll also find that if there was money made available to develop a Dublin Derry economic corridor, that the NRA would in there before CIÉ even considered whether it was worth getting out of bed for.

    The future of rail development in the immediate future is likely to be focused around commuter / relatively high density population areas (ie areas which need traffic volume relief rather than areas that can be fixed with an improved/upgraded road / bypass network)

    I think the only way you'll see a railway through Cavan is if the population of Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh et all get together and push really, really hard for one (magicing up good-will funding etc). But consider that there is a preference in the NW to extend the WRC to Derry and have links to Sligo, Galway & Limerick....


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    Carawaystick
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    meath already is on the rail network - 2 stations with passengers and tart mines.


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    dowlingm
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    Clones???

    This is like the mirror thread to "Transport 21-The Remake"...


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    BrianD
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    The best way of serving this corridor is by regular express coach services. It is the most cost effective and efficient means of doing so. Based on population figures it's hard to justify the link to Navan mever mind going beyond there.


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    IIMII
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    dowlingm wrote: »
    Clones???

    This is like the mirror thread to "Transport 21-The Remake"...
    :D

    i don't know, we might need projects like this as the modern equivelant of famine relief works, if the news at one is anything to go by..


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    Nostradamus
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    lynchiered wrote: »
    Was doing some thinking during the weekend Regarding the best and most economical Route for a railway line to reconnect Meath Cavan Monaghan onto the Irish Rail network

    Increase the population of Cavan and Monaghan towns to about 125,000 each and Dublin to about 5 million.


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    graduate
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    In this report proposing the structure of the Irish rail network in 1837, the main Dublin Belfast route would have run inland and not through Dundalk. What might have been.

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    paulm17781
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    graduate wrote: »
    In this report proposing the structure of the Irish rail network in 1837, the main Dublin Belfast route would have run inland and not through Dundalk. What might have been.

    What did they do in 1837 to get people out of their cars and on to trains? If we could only crack that we could make this and WRC viable.


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    Victor
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    lynchiered wrote: »
    Best Route to Reconnect Meath, Cavan and Monaghan To The Irish Rail Network
    The best way to do this would be to extend the
    boundaries of the two counties to Navan.


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