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Provisional licence renewals?

  • 13-06-2021 4:10am
    #1
    Olaf52
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭


    Does anyone know what the story is with renewing provisional licences?

    Before the first lockdown I was on my second provisional licence but I hadn’t had lessons for about a year. Obviously with the pandemic the licence experienced and I haven’t had driving lessons for about 3 years now. If I want to renew the provisional licence do I now have to apply for the driving test that I would in no way be ready for or is it possible to redo the theory test and start from scratch does anyone know?


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  • #2
    Olaf52
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Olaf52


    Anyone? I’ve tried asking on their website but get no clear answer


  • #3
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,515 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    to apply for a third learner permit you need to either have sat and failed a driving test or have evidence of applying for a test or an upcoming test date.


  • #4
    Olaf52
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Olaf52


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    to apply for a third learner permit you need to either have sat and failed a driving test or have evidence of applying for a test or an upcoming test date.

    Thanks. That’s what I was afraid of. Guess I’ll never be driving then


  • #5
    antimatterx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    to apply for a third learner permit you need to either have sat and failed a driving test or have evidence of applying for a test or an upcoming test date.

    I've failed the test a few times, and have to renew my provisional for a third time. How do I prove I've failed it?


  • #6
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,515 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    antimatterx wrote: »
    I've failed the test a few times, and have to renew my provisional for a third time. How do I prove I've failed it?

    do you not get a sheet at the end?


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  • #7
    F1ngers
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Olaf52 wrote: »
    Thanks. That’s what I was afraid of. Guess I’ll never be driving then

    Can you apply for a test 6/7 months away and then apply for a new permit and include copy of test application?


  • #8
    Olaf52
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Olaf52


    F1ngers wrote: »
    Can you apply for a test 6/7 months away and then apply for a new permit and include copy of test application?

    6/7 months wouldn’t be enough learning time. I haven’t had lessons for 4 years and had been taking lessons for 2 years previously but was told I wasn’t anywhere near test ready as I have nobody to help me practice between lessons (as in no licences driver available to come out driving with me)


  • #9
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Just because you have a test booked doesn't mean you have to take it, you can cancel and reschedule a test twice without having to pay again, you could get 2 years out of that...


  • #10
    bleuhh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭bleuhh


    Olaf52 wrote: »
    Does anyone know what the story is with renewing provisional licences?

    Before the first lockdown I was on my second provisional licence but I hadn’t had lessons for about a year. Obviously with the pandemic the licence experienced and I haven’t had driving lessons for about 3 years now. If I want to renew the provisional licence do I now have to apply for the driving test that I would in no way be ready for or is it possible to redo the theory test and start from scratch does anyone know?

    Hi OP


    Yes it's possible I'm on my 4th provisional due to various reasons, almost ready for my test now. The info online is shocking, so here you are.

    You have to show proof that you've booked your test but you won't even go into the (very very long queue) until you have your 12 EDT lessons logged, even at that it could take years. I booked mine in 2019 and because it's on the NDLS' system they are able to issue me with a new one if I need it. I'm going to paste the info I sent to my friend lately who had the same question as you, it is long-winded!!

    ere's the details for renewing your license. Book an appointment here with the NDLS first of all https://www.ndls.ie/booking-service/appointment.html in the meantime, book the drivers test. It won't actually book until you have the 12 EDT lessons done. https://myroadsafety.rsa.ie/home/login

    You must book an appointment to attend an NDLS centre. You will need to bring the required forms, ID, and fee (35 euro I think). Your photograph and signature will be captured electronically at the NDLS centre.

    To apply in person at an NDLS centre you will need the following:

    A completed and signed learner permit application form.
    Your current or most recent learner permit. If your permit has been lost, stolen or damaged, you must also bring valid photo ID with you.
    Proof of your personal public services number (PPSN).
    Proof of your address dated within the last six months is required if your current address is not recorded on your permit and it differs from that provided to the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection (DEASP) if and when you applied for a PSC.

    If applying for a third or subsequent learner permit, you must provide evidence of having taken and failed a driving test in the previous two years or provide evidence of having applied for a driving test or having a forthcoming test date.
    Your application fee of €35.00. You can pay by credit or debit card, Google Pay or Apple Pay. If you are 70 years and over you are exempt from paying the fee.

    And finally this is the form that you need to print and complete https://www.ndls.ie/images/Documents/LearnerPermits/D201_Learner_Permit_app_form.pdf

    If you have any queries just let me know

    Good luck!


  • #11
    F1ngers
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Olaf52 wrote: »
    6/7 months wouldn’t be enough learning time. I haven’t had lessons for 4 years and had been taking lessons for 2 years previously but was told I wasn’t anywhere near test ready as I have nobody to help me practice between lessons (as in no licences driver available to come out driving with me)
    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Just because you have a test booked doesn't mean you have to take it, you can cancel and reschedule a test twice without having to pay again, you could get 2 years out of that...

    This is what I was implying.
    Use your booking confirmation to get a new permit.

    Once you have a test booked, they should give you a new permit.


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  • #12
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Olaf52 wrote: »
    Thanks. That’s what I was afraid of. Guess I’ll never be driving then

    If your second provisional expires by 5 years you have to start again from scratch and do the theory test again. You don't have to have had a driving test booked


  • #13
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭jos22


    annoying thing about a renewal is that is valid for only 1 year, if you sit the test and fail, the failure cert allow you to renew the permit and have it valid for 2 years,


  • #14
    jos22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭jos22


    Gunslinger92 wrote: »
    If your second provisional expires by 5 years you have to start again from scratch and do the theory test again. You don't have to have had a driving test booked

    you do need to have a test booked
    If applying for a third or subsequent learner permit, you must provide evidence of having taken and failed a driving test in the previous two years or provide evidence of having applied for a driving test or having a forthcoming test date


  • #15
    Gunslinger92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    jos22 wrote: »
    you do need to have a test booked
    If applying for a third or subsequent learner permit, you must provide evidence of having taken and failed a driving test in the previous two years or provide evidence of having applied for a driving test or having a forthcoming test date

    Well I got a third provisional last year without having had a test booked. My second provisional was expired just over 5 years, maybe that's why I didn't


  • #16
    Posy
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    Yep, if your learner permit (not been called provisional for a long while) has been expired over 5 years, you are treated as a first permit holder, and start again from scratch- having to sit your theory test, then do your EDT lessons etc. To get a first permit, you obviously don't need to have a test booked. :)


  • #17
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Just been checking online to book a theory test. Online theory test are all booked up and test centre tests (at least in Dublin) are booked until September

    Whoa. High demand!


  • #18
    Darc19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    For anyone who is failing tests or finds it difficult, just go and learn in an automatic. Automatics will soon make up the majority of the card fleet - they are more economical and far more dependable. All electric cars are automatic

    Its as simple as point and go.

    It means you are not thinking of gears and can simply concentrate on all other aspects of driving.


    If you then want to go for manual, do that at a later date. But go auto, get the licence and get your insurance costs down and be able to drive yourself without having to have someone with you.


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