Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VI

TomOnBoard · 19-07-2019 10:45pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

kamala harris would be too controversial
she has put many black americans in jail
And she is not a "black american". she did not come from slavery.

but the biggest issue facing her is her family lineage. if it is true, which is likely, one side of her family were actual slave owners from Jamaica then how would she recover.

Ah, the much-loved "She's not black enough" ****e that Donnie Jr tweeted and then deleted last month! This is exactly the kind of hateful propaganda that sickens all good-thinking/acting Americans when the Trumpeters blow it out their collective ass...

looksee · 19-07-2019 10:46pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

kamala harris would be too controversial
she has put many black americans in jail
And she is not a "black american". she did not come from slavery.

but the biggest issue facing her is her family lineage. if it is true, which is likely, one side of her family were actual slave owners from Jamaica then how would she recover.

I have no idea about the truth of any of this, but if she were the descendant of a child born to a slave and a slave owner then I don't see that she has an issue?

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 19-07-2019 10:50pm

everlast75 wrote: »

If its true?

Is that a direct copy and paste from trump's playbook?

Obama's birth cert. A dem marrying her brother. Dem descending from slave owners?

All "if true"?

Are we allowed post stuff like that?

Because there are some fairly disgusting and far more substantiated rumours about Trump which I could mention.

i am just posting what her dad did say about his own family. i said if true just to give him the benefit of the doubt.

TomOnBoard · 19-07-2019 10:51pm

looksee wrote: »

I have no idea about the truth of any of this, but if she were the descendant of a child born to a slave and a slave owner then I don't see that she has an issue?

She doesn't! It's simply a 4-chan talking point that gets trotted out to deflect, distort and poison honourable debate and discussion.

There's been a lot of that ould misinformation and propaganda from that particular source over the past few days...

Remember, the great George Washington owned slaves in his time!

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-07-2019 10:52pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

kamala harris would be too controversial
she has put many black americans in jail
And she is not a "black american". she did not come from slavery.

but the biggest issue facing her is her family lineage. if it is true, which is likely, one side of her family were actual slave owners from Jamaica then how would she recover.

Would love to see you back these claims up with solid evidence please.

Water John · 19-07-2019 10:53pm

A detailed examination of Trump's father would be interesting viewing, if anyone wants to go down that road.

duploelabs · 19-07-2019 10:53pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

i am just posting what her dad did say about his own family. i said if true just to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Still waiting on the questions asked of you from earlier

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 19-07-2019 10:54pm

looksee wrote: »

I have no idea about the truth of any of this, but if she were the descendant of a child born to a slave and a slave owner then I don't see that she has an issue?

i dont either way, why cant blacks be slave owners too back then.
but many people would because of the money.
she was born wealthy to jamician and tamil indian immigrants 50 odd years ago.
look i dont have to spell it out.

Water John · 19-07-2019 10:56pm

Do I care? Answer, no.

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 19-07-2019 10:57pm

duploelabs wrote: »

Still waiting on the questions asked of you from earlier

look i am busy man. i try my best.
if you have questions list them in detailed form. no more then 3 questions.

Igotadose · 19-07-2019 10:57pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

i am just posting what her dad did say about his own family. i said if true just to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Sure you are.

She turned Barr into a quivering mound of swampdwelling nontalen easily. Across a debate lectern Trump'll be dissolved into the skidmark he is. No contest. Hopefully she gets past the two elderlies ahead of her soon.

everlast75 · 19-07-2019 10:59pm

Water John wrote: »

A detailed examination of Trump's father would be interesting viewing, if anyone wants to go down that road.

Don't even have to go down the road of rumours.

Isn't it a matter of fact that his dad was arrested at a clan rally?

I mean, if we can hold Harris to account for something her ancestors did allegedly while she was not alive, why not hold Trump accountable for what his dad did as a matter of fact when Trump was alive?

I mean, otherwise we would be hypocrites, right?

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 19-07-2019 11:02pm

ok looks like i do have to spell it out,

where their family money came from?
the idea that in the 1960s a wealthy Jamaican and a wealthy tamil indian moves to america. where did the wealth come from?

pixelburp · 19-07-2019 11:04pm

I see Trump is back to praising the crowd again, his defence didn't really last. Man struggles to keep his story straight, can see why they didn't want him to talk to Mueller fadó fadó.

Incredible that those who dedicate their lives to working in Congress, to enact laws and help govern a nation, can be attacked as "anti American". They literally work to make the nation happen. The inability of some Americans to conduct even a modicum of national introspection or self criticism is kinda pathetic.

BonnieSituation · 19-07-2019 11:12pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

the markets are very complicated and as another poster said to me it would not be right to try and explain here.

if you are really interested i suggest you buy and read The Big Short by Michael Lewis.

Skip the movie as it does not do a very complicated book justice.

Ha ha ha ha. That is top notch deflection.

A simple "No" would have done.
Amazing.

We've reached peak troll.

everlast75 · 19-07-2019 11:12pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

ok looks like i do have to spell it out,

where their family money came from?
the idea that in the 1960s a wealthy Jamaican and a wealthy tamil indian moves to america. where did the wealth come from?

Innuendo yet again? Seriously? Not taking the pathetic bait. Try harder.

Do you think your unfounded allegations make Trump better than Harris? I'm sure you know the answer to that.

TomOnBoard · 19-07-2019 11:13pm

looksee wrote: »

I have no idea about the truth of any of this, but if she were the descendant of a child born to a slave and a slave owner then I don't see that she has an issue?

Ah, it's like being at a Trump lies bingo! The old "I know nothing about it" deflection!! How absolutely un-original...

Igotadose · 19-07-2019 11:21pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

ok looks like i do have to spell it out,

where their family money came from?
the idea that in the 1960s a wealthy Jamaican and a wealthy tamil indian moves to america. where did the wealth come from?

Oh please. Try harder. She's infinitely more successful and qualified than Trump, you or tge other bottom feeders that still support Trump. All 20% or so of you still around that claim to support Cult45. See you around.

TomOnBoard · 19-07-2019 11:21pm

everlast75 wrote: »

Don't even have to go down the road of rumours.

Isn't it a matter of fact that his dad was arrested at a clan rally?

I mean, if we can hold Harris to account for something her ancestors did allegedly while she was not alive, why not hold Trump accountable for what his dad did as a matter of fact when Trump was alive?

I mean, otherwise we would be hypocrites, right?

I don't reckon Fred's arrest can be used to prove that he was a clan member though! There's more evidence that he may have been one of the people watching the Klan Rally when the Police arrested both marchers and watchers...

Water John · 19-07-2019 11:25pm

Maybe how Fred treated, people of colour, rubbed off on the young fella.

19-07-2019 11:35pm

Ainsley Harriott is descended on one side from a slave-owner in Jamaica. Is he still "black enough"?

FartyBlartFast · 19-07-2019 11:42pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

the vote is between trump and the democrat nominee.
all the current democrat runners will go so left to win they will have no chance against trump.
many americans in Wisconsin, ohio, michigan and other near states hate socialism.
can you imagine warren and harris as a ticket trying to win those states.
warren who is an actual racist pretending to be part native american and harris a Californian liberal who goes on about Reparations for slavery.
not a hope

It's not socialist policies they fear, it is the word socialism.

All three of those states are quite strongly in favour of social healthcare for example, and probably in no small part due to them all being right beside Canada and huge numbers of their populace frequently having to make trips up North across the border so as to not go homeless from being sick.

FartyBlartFast · 19-07-2019 11:47pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

kamala harris would be too controversial
she has put many black americans in jail
And she is not a "black american". she did not come from slavery.

but the biggest issue facing her is her family lineage. if it is true, which is likely, one side of her family were actual slave owners from Jamaica then how would she recover.

What the actual... ?

Also, being Caribbean in heritage makes someone "not black" now? Try walk around some black neighbourhoods in the US spouting that and see how you get on.

relax carry on · 19-07-2019 11:58pm

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

ok looks like i do have to spell it out,

where their family money came from?
the idea that in the 1960s a wealthy Jamaican and a wealthy tamil indian moves to america. where did the wealth come from?

God this is painful.

Let's take it slow. Three questions and I'll give my answers. Then you have a go answering them.

Q: What do you think of Trump the man?
A: Ticks pretty much every box for a terrible human being. Racist, mysogonistic, bully, anti intellectual, conman, narcissistic, serial liar, criminal and has some disturbing issues with his daughter etc.

Q: What do you think of Trump the Businessman?
A: Without being bankrolled and bailed out by his father and then others, he would have ended up as a third rate used car salesman instead of a third rate conman. He bankrupted a casino! How do you manage that?

Q: What do you think of Trump the President?
A: Possibly the most unfit individual ever to hold the office. He could only improve by golfing until the end of his term. The damage he had wrought will take years to fix. However I will give him one thing; there's a chance that his travesty of a presidency could be good for the US in the long run as it may make Americans take their politics and democracy a little more seriously.

Quin_Dub · 20-07-2019 12:04am

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

kamala harris would be too controversial
she has put many black americans in jail
And she is not a "black american". she did not come from slavery.

but the biggest issue facing her is her family lineage. if it is true, which is likely, one side of her family were actual slave owners from Jamaica then how would she recover.

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

i dont either way, why cant blacks be slave owners too back then.
but many people would because of the money.
she was born wealthy to jamician and tamil indian immigrants 50 odd years ago.
look i dont have to spell it out.

Yes, yes you do..

This isn't the conspiracy theory forum.

That's definitely going to need some form of corroboration.

BonnieSituation · 20-07-2019 4:24am

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Yes, yes you do..

This isn't the conspiracy theory forum.

That's definitely going to need some form of corroboration.

5hours in and we still wait. I'm still waiting on the explanation of the Dow Jones Industrial Average numbers and what they mean.

I reckon you'll be waiting...

ScottCapper · 20-07-2019 6:04am

Trump is some man in fairness, a lot more done than Obama anyway

BonnieSituation · 20-07-2019 6:16am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Trump is some man in fairness, a lot more done than Obama anyway

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duploelabs · 20-07-2019 6:23am

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

look i am busy man. i try my best.
if you have questions list them in detailed form. no more then 3 questions.

No, this ain't 4chan or qnon. When you blurt baseless gossip or random figures, please quantify them with a reputable source and a basic understanding of said post,especially when questioned

ScottCapper · 20-07-2019 6:41am

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

I don’t subscribe to socialism anyway for a start

ScottCapper · 20-07-2019 7:16am

Some of Trump's 2018 accomlishments alone which the liberals and media wont tell you.

- more americans working then ever before, rising wages, high optimism and higher paying jobs.
- simplified taxes & Massive deregulation
- 85 federal judges appointed under Trump
- Veterans accountability act signed
- Expanded VA Telehealth Services, Walk-in clinics, same-day urgent primary/mental health care

duploelabs · 20-07-2019 7:22am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Some of Trump's 2018 accomlishments alone which the liberals and media wont tell you.

- more americans working then ever before, rising wages, high optimism and higher paying jobs.
- simplified taxes & Massive deregulation
- 85 federal judges appointed under Trump
- Veterans accountability act signed
- Expanded VA Telehealth Services, Walk-in clinics, same-day urgent primary/mental health care

You're new here aren't you?

jochenstacker · 20-07-2019 7:29am

duploelabs wrote: »

You're new here aren't you?

Yeah right

Midlife · 20-07-2019 7:30am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Some of Trump's 2018 accomlishments alone which the liberals and media wont tell you.

- more americans working then ever before, rising wages, high optimism and higher paying jobs.
- simplified taxes & Massive deregulation
- 85 federal judges appointed under Trump
- Veterans accountability act signed
- Expanded VA Telehealth Services, Walk-in clinics, same-day urgent primary/mental health care

Are there more?

ScottCapper · 20-07-2019 7:31am

duploelabs wrote: »

You're new here aren't you?

been lurking here from time to time

ScottCapper · 20-07-2019 7:34am

Midlife wrote: »

Are there more?

Yes there are.

20-07-2019 7:39am

ScottCapper wrote: »

I don’t subscribe to socialism anyway for a start

Then you would disapprove of Trump having to bail out farmers to the tune of 16 billion as a direct result of his trade tariffs.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/news/trump-trade-war-china-farmers-get-second-round-of-bailout-2019-5-1028226668
The VA which you mentioned is a public service, which is a form of socialism. Like most public services.

Midlife · 20-07-2019 7:44am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Yes there are.

So let me get this right.

A president with both house and congress got some stuff done?

oh, and the economy is good.

everlast75 · 20-07-2019 8:13am

https://twitter.com/DiamondandSilk/status/1151624525550882818?s=19

These two have been wheeled out at Trump conventions/ rallies and appear regularly on Fox News.

Let that sink in.

They make Ben Shapiro look smart.

Quin_Dub · 20-07-2019 8:22am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Trump is some man in fairness, a lot more done than Obama anyway

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

ScottCapper wrote: »

I don’t subscribe to socialism anyway for a start

##Mod Note##

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Cut it out please

Cody montana · 20-07-2019 8:50am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Some of Trump's 2018 accomlishments alone which the liberals and media wont tell you.

- more americans working then ever before, rising wages, high optimism and higher paying jobs.
- simplified taxes & Massive deregulation
- 85 federal judges appointed under Trump
- Veterans accountability act signed
- Expanded VA Telehealth Services, Walk-in clinics, same-day urgent primary/mental health care

Trump didn’t turn around the economy, Obama did.
More Americans are working because there ARE more Americans.

Igotadose · 20-07-2019 9:11am

Trump's contemporaneous speaking skills highlighted in this exchange with a Nobel Peace Prize winner. She pointed out that she & her family are Yazidis from Iraq. Her family was wiped out by ISIS. Trump then burbled about ISIS is gone, and 'where is your family now?' "They killed them." Oh.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/853821/trump-awkward-exchange-nobel-peace-prizewinner-nadia-murad

But, I'd suspect that as a woman, Trump wasn't really listening to what she was saying. He's that way.

Igotadose · 20-07-2019 9:17am

Didn't take too long. Mueller's team found the child porn on this Trump appartchik's phone during his investigation, and forwarded the information on. Now, Nader's under indictment. Those wheels of Justice grind slowly but the long arm of the law is indeed long.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/george-nader-indictment_n_5d31de53e4b004b6adaf3a53

hill16bhoy · 20-07-2019 10:17am

Igotadose wrote: »

Didn't take too long. Mueller's team found the child porn on this Trump appartchik's phone during his investigation, and forwarded the information on. Now, Nader's under indictment. Those wheels of Justice grind slowly but the long arm of the law is indeed long.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/george-nader-indictment_n_5d31de53e4b004b6adaf3a53

What kind of person is friends with five paedophiles?

Well, Trump, obviously.

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/971917442216808452

Stop moaning ffs · 20-07-2019 10:45am

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

I thought this was not a conspiracy thread

The fbi and doj don’t investigate and prosecute conspiracy theories.

nw5iytvs0lf1uz · 20-07-2019 10:49am

Igotadose wrote: »

Trump's contemporaneous speaking skills highlighted in this exchange with a Nobel Peace Prize winner. She pointed out that she & her family are Yazidis from Iraq. Her family was wiped out by ISIS. Trump then burbled about ISIS is gone, and 'where is your family now?' "They killed them." Oh.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/853821/trump-awkward-exchange-nobel-peace-prizewinner-nadia-murad

But, I'd suspect that as a woman, Trump wasn't really listening to what she was saying. He's that way.

Did you watch that video
She said herself isis is gone but Turks and Kurds are fighting
That video is nothing like you are portraying. She even thanked trump

Gbear · 20-07-2019 11:19am

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DiamondandSilk/status/1151624525550882818?s=19

These two have been wheeled out at Trump conventions/ rallies and appear regularly on Fox News.

Let that sink in.

They make Ben Shapiro look smart.

Apparently there's some nonsense rule in the House that you're not allowed to call the President racist, or so I've read.

ancapailldorcha · 20-07-2019 11:22am

Quin_Dub wrote: »

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Below standards

Cut it out please

<Taps Sign>

Cut out the sniping and backseat modding.

ECO_Mental · 20-07-2019 11:33am

ScottCapper wrote: »

Yes there are.

There are so many more achivements that Trump has done I was going to try and list a few more but it was too big so here are just a few select highlights

Adding Trillions to the national debt with tax breaks to his rich buddies
Set up concentration camps for kids
Praised Nazi's and a built a strong culture of racism within the white house (you have to lead by example)
Has the lowest rating and disapproval ratings of any president EVER (since they started measuring it)
Has more indictments and criminal investigations against his organization and team that any president ever.
Weakened US power globally as other countries seek more reliable partners.

I could go on and on joke of a president

duploelabs · 20-07-2019 11:34am

Grant Shaggy Self-confidence wrote: »

look i am busy man. i try my best.
if you have questions list them in detailed form. no more then 3 questions.

Well? I'm not the only one. Step up

Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VI

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