Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [ POSSIBLE SPOILERS ]

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 10:28am

Id say its the Starfleet Academy series with Professor Picard.

Inviere · 05-08-2018 10:46am

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Id say its the Starfleet Academy series with Professor Picard.

I've always imagined Picard being less interested in teaching, and more like a Boothby type character pf the Academy

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 10:48am

Inviere wrote: »

I've always imagined Picard being less interested in teaching, and more like a Boothby type character pf the Academy

Picard, digging up flowers in Starfleet Academy discovers Iconian gateway.

pixelburp · 05-08-2018 11:00am

I joked about the vinyard, but given reading between the lines about Picard being a changed man from experience, it seems like the kind of place we might find him at the start. The Dominion War, loss of his family, friends like Data etc., and given it was where we found him at the start of "All Good Things..." anyway (even if it was an alt-future), maybe he retired to tend grapes, fate / old friends pulling him back into a mystery

05-08-2018 11:07am

This is exciting. I better hurry up with my rewatch because i dont remember the end

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 11:20am

bluewolf wrote: »

This is exciting. I better hurry up with my rewatch because i dont remember the end

You have plenty of time. Probably at least a year and a half.

RobbingBandit · 05-08-2018 11:32am

Woman screaming in that video ruins it , wonder will a few channels start running the show again or should I just binge watch over the next few months.

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 11:36am

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Woman screaming in that video ruins it , wonder will a few channels start running the show again or should I just binge watch over the next few months.

Need to rewatch TNG, the movies and Xmen. Cause, Its Patrick Stewart.

Although im not sitting through his Shakespeare.

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 11:37am

I know he's meant to be French in the show, not sure that ever worked.

duffman13 · 05-08-2018 11:39am

Really really looking forward to what they do with this. From the video he seems very hands on with the project which id hope means it'll be good.

Gbear · 05-08-2018 11:40am

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I know he's meant to be French in the show, not sure that ever worked.

It's Future French.

Presumably Europe is just a big giant continent-spanning eco-city at this point.

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 11:40am

duffman13 wrote: »

Really really looking forward to what they do with this. From the video he seems very hands on with the project which id hope means it'll be good.

Or he got paid a wheelbarrow full of cash

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 11:41am

Gbear wrote: »

It's Future French.

Presumably Europe is just a big giant continent-spanning eco-city at this point.

Ah Britain invades and occupies France after Brexit talks fail.

RobbingBandit · 05-08-2018 11:41am

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Need to rewatch TNG, the movies and Xmen. Cause, Its Patrick Stewart.

Although im not sitting through his Shakespeare.

His Shakespeare roles are really good but my favorite part he ever played was King Richard in Robin Hood Men in Tights

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 11:43am

RobbingBandit wrote: »

His Shakespeare roles are really good but my favorite was King Richard in Robin Hood Men in Tights

Ahh I forgot about that!
Must re-watch it, wonder if it holds up well.

Robin Hood:

I would like to apoint a new sheriff of Rottingham, my good friend, Ahchoo.

Wedding Guest: A black sheriff?!

Blinkin: He's black?!

Ahchoo: Why not? It worked in "Blazing Saddles".

TomSweeney · 05-08-2018 11:52am

Great, now if they can just keep identiy politics bull**** out of it ....

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 12:18pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Great, now if they can just keep identiy politics bull**** out of it ....

Captain Picard is now, Captain Patricia.

Actually, would the female form of Jean Luc be Jeanne?

pixelburp · 05-08-2018 12:48pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Great, now if they can just keep identiy politics bull**** out of it ....

Whining about racial/gender/sexual/identity politics in a Star Trek show is hilariously redundant. It's STAR TREK. I look forward to there being LOTS.

SimonTemplar · 05-08-2018 12:53pm

Picard may be a changed man as Stewart mentioned due to his experiences over the last 20 years but that doesn't necessarily mean a negative thing. He could have found love and settled down or left Starfleet to pursue his interest in archaeology.

Personally, I don't like the idea of Picard becoming a bitter old man over the last 20 years. I don't think it would be fair to his character.

RobbingBandit · 05-08-2018 1:22pm

He's gonna kill the role no matter how big or small it may be he is so good in anything he does. Hope he gets to torment Wil Wheaton one more time too.

SimonTemplar · 05-08-2018 1:27pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

He's gonna kill the role no matter how big or small it may be he is so good in anything he does. Hope he gets to torment Wil Wheaton one more time too.

Admiral Crusher: Jean-Luc, Starfleet requests that you join the Klingon ambas...
Picard: Shut up Wesley!

Owl. · 05-08-2018 1:27pm

This is fantastic news.

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 2:35pm

Please dont have that future beard!

AMKC · 05-08-2018 2:37pm

I would say Picard will either be an Admiral, teaching at the academy or maybe have left Starfleet altogether to do other things maybe have a family and pursue his love of archaeology.

Others I would love to see appear in this at some stage and hopefully they do are Data maybe teaching in the academy, Myles O' Brien should be there too. That is where he went after the end of DS9 wasn't it. Never mind what I said about him in an earlier post. He would be teaching science and engineering maybe even advanced maths at the academy.

So what other cameo's would people here like to see appear on the show?

helimachoptor · 05-08-2018 2:38pm

Him and crushers have turned into inter species swinger party hosts.

Wesley comes home to find mom in a compromising position with a Gorn

Sad Professor · 05-08-2018 3:17pm

Hopefully they'll involve some of the old writers, if just to get advice on how to write Picard whose character was very much the product of Roddenberry's vaguely defined utopian ideas. Piller died several years ago sadly, but RDM could at least offer some insights on how they saw the character. Picard was often written badly in the show itself never mind later when people like John Logan got involved. My fear is that this will end up feeling like fan fiction.

FGR · 05-08-2018 4:11pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

My fear is that this will end up feeling like fan fiction.

I'm delighted for the news but the above is my own fear.

Let's hope they focus on TNG Picard and not Movie-Era driving in a buggy Picard.

pixelburp · 05-08-2018 4:26pm

I'd they managed to bring back OBrien and Bashir as best pals & part of the extended cast I'd be delighted. Their friendship was always a highpoint in any episode, effortless yet just the right side of a rivalry too to make it feel organic

05-08-2018 4:33pm

Wait, all these old character pop-in thoughts are exactly what people give the books stink for

Sad Professor · 05-08-2018 4:43pm

Yeah, an endless stream of cameo appearances from all the regulars of the TNG-era shows will kill this. The only characters other than Picard that need to appear are the TNG bridge crew.

It's still not clear what this show is going to be. Will it be a once-off series or is it setting up a new crew with Picard as the torch-passer?

Barnavave · 05-08-2018 4:47pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Him and crushers have turned into inter species swinger party hosts.

Wesley comes home to find mom in a compromising position with a Gorn

Make it so.

IvySlayer · 05-08-2018 6:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Wait, all these old character pop-in thoughts are exactly what people give the books stink for

The books would jam random characters together for no reason other than to have them interact. Having Kirk, Picard and Sisko on the Defiant bridge....

I am looking forward to the fan services we may get.

I don't want a cameo of the week type series but well written plots/stories involving the occasional TNG/DS9 character can be watchable.

How long will these actors be around for?

This may be the last ever chance of something like this.

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 8:07pm

Picard is back. That's all that matters.

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 8:16pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I'd they managed to bring back OBrien and Bashir as best pals & part of the extended cast I'd be delighted. Their friendship was always a highpoint in any episode, effortless yet just the right side of a rivalry too to make it feel organic

Stop teasing me!!

Picard, O'Brien, Bashir......that be too awesome

05-08-2018 8:48pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

The books would jam random characters together for no reason other than to have them interact. Having Kirk, Picard and Sisko on the Defiant bridge....

I am looking forward to the fan services we may get.

I don't want a cameo of the week type series but well written plots/stories involving the occasional TNG/DS9 character can be watchable.

How long will these actors be around for? This may be the last ever chance of something like this.

It's the exact same thing as being proposed here. Everyone goes on how the Federation is huge so no way would any of them meet, yet on screen we expect it

Evade · 05-08-2018 9:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's the exact same thing as being proposed here. Everyone goes on how the Federation is huge so no way would any of them meet, yet on screen we expect it

It is big but they have communicators. If a retired Picard needed something he could call in a favour from Admiral Riker. If he's teaching at the Academy with O'Brien should they just ghost each other in the hallways?

Other cameos would make less sense. There's no reason for Picard to call on say Seven or Dax. Then again who knows what happened in the preceding 20 years? Sisko could even be alive again.

Sad Professor · 05-08-2018 9:17pm

When articles say this "not a Star Trek: Next Generation reboot, [but] will tell the story of the next chapter of Picard’s life", what do they mean?

Does it just mean they aren't bringing back TNG as an ongoing series or that it will literally just be about Picard, perhaps in a completely different timeline a la Spock? Or is it just the case that they have only confirmed Stewart and don't want the rest of the cast putting up their prices because they think they need them?

05-08-2018 9:22pm

Evade wrote: »

It is big but they have communicators. If a retired Picard needed something he could call in a favour from Admiral Riker. If he's teaching at the Academy with O'Brien should they just ghost each other in the hallways?

Other cameos would make less sense. There's no reason for Picard to call on say Seven or Dax. Then again who knows what happened in the preceding 20 years? Sisko could even be alive again.

All the same as the circumstantial happenings in the books TBH.

IvySlayer · 05-08-2018 9:24pm

I think we're all just a bit excited of (the possibility) seeing the TNG/DS9/Voyager characters(s) being revisited.

No-one is suggesting we have a plot were Admiral Janeway is hosting a Voyager reunion party on DS9 and the TNG crew rejoined on the Enterprise who just happen to be docked there :P

What could be the main focus? Post-war rebuilding, a weaker Federation/Romulan Empire/Klingon Empire dealing with their issues, rebuilding Cardassia, a weaker Dominion, a possibly more xenophobic culture etc

TheValeyard · 05-08-2018 9:24pm

Evade wrote: »

It is big but they have communicators. If a retired Picard needed something he could call in a favour from Admiral Riker. If he's teaching at the Academy with O'Brien should they just ghost each other in the hallways?

Other cameos would make less sense. There's no reason for Picard to call on say Seven or Dax. Then again who knows what happened in the preceding 20 years? Sisko could even be alive again.

EXACTLY

THERES SO MANY POSSIBILITIES!!!!!!

*i might be a little excited

Evade · 05-08-2018 9:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

All the same as the circumstantial happenings in the books TBH.

You're right. When I need help with something I find a complete stranger instead of calling on someone I have a longstanding preexisting relationship with.

And just as a potential plot contrivance to get the band back together, Picard's 100th birthday is in 2405.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 05-08-2018 9:32pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

When articles say this "not a Star Trek: Next Generation reboot, [but] will tell the story of the next chapter of Picard’s life", what do they mean?

Does it just mean they aren't bringing back TNG as an ongoing series or that it will literally just be about Picard, perhaps in a completely different timeline a la Spock? Or is it just the case that they have only confirmed Stewart and don't want the rest of the cast putting up their prices because they think they need them?

It’s not a TNG reboot. Or continuation.

My hope is that he starts as an admiral, or semi retired but is forced back into exploration by an event. Maybe he goes rogue.

His ship won’t be enterprise level but serviceable. It will (I hope) be more an arc and or character driven than alien of the week.

pixelburp · 05-08-2018 11:10pm

Alex Kurtzman is definitely keeping my feet on the ground; fcking up Picard could really nuke fan support for TV trek and Kurtzman seems more than capable at eroding support for this project.

But hey, who knows, we already had Dune Buggy Picard, so perhaps the worst already happened and even a half assed series could redeem the character at this stage (though correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the dune buggy Stewart's own idea?)

Sad Professor · 05-08-2018 11:33pm

Yes, and Rambo Picard too, though a lot of that was in response to pressure from the studio who didn't see him as a leading man.

Picard was always a challenging character to write. Anytime he was front and centre in the show it usually involved some cerebral narrative (Darmok) or him being emotionally or physically compromised (Chain of Command, all the movies). I'm sceptical that the character can exist outside of the particular context of the TNG writer's room, much of enforced by Roddenberry and later Michael Piller.

If this works it will be because it's 20 years later and Picard is supposed to be different, older, reaching the end of his life, etc and hopefully that gives Stewart and whoever writes it a bit of perspective on the character.

AMKC · 06-08-2018 12:24am

IvySlayer wrote: »

I think we're all just a bit excited of (the possibility) seeing the TNG/DS9/Voyager characters(s) being revisited.

No-one is suggesting we have a plot were Admiral Janeway is hosting a Voyager reunion party on DS9 and the TNG crew rejoined on the Enterprise who just happen to be docked there :P

What could be the main focus? Post-war rebuilding, a weaker Federation/Romulan Empire/Klingon Empire dealing with their issues, rebuilding Cardassia, a weaker Dominion, a possibly more xenophobic culture etc

I think if it set 20 years down the line all that will have been done by now.

I also hope it has nothing to do with being xenophobic. We have enough of that we trumb, his cronies, his idea of his new world order and his so called friends. It should not be dark, it should have stories about the human condition and how we can better ourselves. We live in dark times at the moment we need a show that can give us hope for the future. That is what Star Trek is about. That's what TNG was about.

Cookie_Monster · 06-08-2018 12:34am

Was there not something somewhere about him eventually becoming ambassador to Qu'onos? or was that just one of the books?

AtomicHorror · 06-08-2018 1:51am

20 years after Nemesis puts it around 2399- 12 years after the destruction of Romulus. Picard should be about 94 years old. But he was happily commanding a starship at the age of 74, so I guess that age wont mean that much.

It might mean more for the Enterprise E though- at 27 years, she could be up for decomissioning, if she's not already lost.

AMKC wrote: »

It should not be dark, it should have stories about the human condition and how we can better ourselves. We live in dark times at the moment we need a show that can give us hope for the future. That is what Star Trek is about. That's what TNG was about.

I think Stewart sees it the same way: "I feel I’m ready to return to him for the same reason – to research and experience what comforting and reforming light he might shine on these often very dark times."

TomSweeney wrote: »

Great, now if they can just keep identiy politics bull**** out of it ....

Then it wouldn't be Star Trek... so puzzling the people who call themselves fans but have never seen an episode.

TheValeyard · 06-08-2018 7:31am

It could be centred around the destruction of Romulus and death of Ambassador Spock. Maybe its when the Klingon invasion of Romulan Empire happens in the All Good Things timeline.

Was never too fond of the ENT-E so wouldnt mind if that ship goes into retirement.

TomSweeney · 06-08-2018 8:52am

pixelburp wrote: »

Whining about racial/gender/sexual/identity politics in a Star Trek show is hilariously redundant. It's STAR TREK. I look forward to there being LOTS.

No, the point is in a real Star Trek world they wouldn't go on about it.
They wouldn't care, individuals are individuals.

Did they go on about Jordi being black in TNG ? or about Picard being bald ?

But this new Discovery is a crock YES WE GET IT ... she's "Transspecies" with a male name ... stop harping on about it.

TomSweeney · 06-08-2018 9:31am

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