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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

Weepsie · 2019-11-26 12:53:36

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#2652 21-01-2021 12:08am

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well, the gardai want all info now - there's a clear reg visible in that.

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#2653 21-01-2021 8:00am

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Yep. Can't let him away with that Cram. left unchecked, that will only be repeated and maybe worse.

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#2654 21-01-2021 8:30am

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magicbastarder wrote: »

well, the gardai want all info now - there's a clear reg visible in that.

And expect the "but why weren't you in the cycle lane* question in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

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#2655 21-01-2021 8:40am

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AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And expect the "but why weren't you in the cycle lane* question in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

I expect that but there is good reason. About 200m before this the cycle lane cuts in and out around a bus stop and it collects leaves, has a ridge and a drain cover, as well as confusion in what appears to be an unsigned shared space area. Too many times I have seen cyclists come down there, so during wet weather so I take the bus lane from just before the cut in. I stay in the bus lane for the 100m as it is safer to cut back in where the lane and road are at the same level. The cut back in after the bus stop is so sharp, lots of taxis and buses slam on the brakes if you are in it as they think you are going to fly out into them. I was moving the same speed as any bus would have been approaching a red light so I certainly was not impeding traffic.

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#2656 21-01-2021 9:34am

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CramCycle wrote: »

I also find N plates a warning sign.

Bigger warning is a car with N and L plates

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#2657 21-01-2021 10:19am

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fatbhoy wrote: »

Of course I was in too much shock to do anything about it. He was very apologetic. Seemed like a decent lad. Sprawled out on the road. Bike was okay. Didn't seem like any significant injuries, so kept going on my spin.

This reminded me of my car door experience. Cycling along St Stephen's Green towards Leeson St and I got car doored by someone getting out of a parked car. Came off and my jeans were all ripped, bits of gravel embedded in my palms and my ankle really hurt. The man was all apologetic but I just shooed him away and limped back to work.
Afterwards I was thinking what you're supposed to do in those situations? It was a pair of diesel jeans worth about 160 quid and I was pretty shook up.
Are they liable for anything?
I nearly got car doored nearby soon afterwards when someone stopped outside Top Shop on St Stephen's Green to let his mate out of the car and I lost it at the guy getting out that I had to jam on for. Must have been pent up.

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#2658 21-01-2021 10:28am

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CramCycle wrote: »

I expect that but there is good reason. About 200m before this the cycle lane cuts in and out around a bus stop and it collects leaves, has a ridge and a drain cover, as well as confusion in what appears to be an unsigned shared space area. Too many times I have seen cyclists come down there, so during wet weather so I take the bus lane from just before the cut in. I stay in the bus lane for the 100m as it is safer to cut back in where the lane and road are at the same level. The cut back in after the bus stop is so sharp, lots of taxis and buses slam on the brakes if you are in it as they think you are going to fly out into them. I was moving the same speed as any bus would have been approaching a red light so I certainly was not impeding traffic.

you forgot to mention the walkway from the estate and the pedestrian crossing in the same shared space.

Know that stretch well and the cycle lane is basically a doodle on a road planners drawing. Add to that the long downhill, which means you are travelling quicker, it just makes much more sense to be in the bus lane.

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#2659 21-01-2021 2:26pm

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Thelonious Monk wrote: »

This reminded me of my car door experience. Cycling along St Stephen's Green towards Leeson St and I got car doored by someone getting out of a parked car. Came off and my jeans were all ripped, bits of gravel embedded in my palms and my ankle really hurt. The man was all apologetic but I just shooed him away and limped back to work.
Afterwards I was thinking what you're supposed to do in those situations? It was a pair of diesel jeans worth about 160 quid and I was pretty shook up.
Are they liable for anything?
I nearly got car doored nearby soon afterwards when someone stopped outside Top Shop on St Stephen's Green to let his mate out of the car and I lost it at the guy getting out that I had to jam on for. Must have been pent up.

The reality is, unless your bike is damaged, or you require medical attention, I can't see you getting compensated.

Car insurance companies are highly unlikely to pay out for damaged clothing, and it's probably equally unlikely that the fella in the car is going to hand over cash to you if you tell him the cost of the jeans

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#2660 21-01-2021 2:33pm

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BMW quelle surprise?

I also keep a wide berth of "KE", "C" or yellow plates.

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#2661 21-01-2021 5:27pm

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CramCycle wrote: »

I expect that but there is good reason. About 200m before this the cycle lane cuts in and out around a bus stop and it collects leaves, has a ridge and a drain cover, as well as confusion in what appears to be an unsigned shared space area. Too many times I have seen cyclists come down there, so during wet weather so I take the bus lane from just before the cut in. I stay in the bus lane for the 100m as it is safer to cut back in where the lane and road are at the same level. The cut back in after the bus stop is so sharp, lots of taxis and buses slam on the brakes if you are in it as they think you are going to fly out into them. I was moving the same speed as any bus would have been approaching a red light so I certainly was not impeding traffic.

That's a good answer.

Another good answer is "because I felt like it" because you don't have to justify your route choices to anyone. You don't have to choose your route to minimise inconvenience to others.

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#2662 21-01-2021 5:30pm

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cletus wrote: »

The reality is, unless your bike is damaged, or you require medical attention, I can't see you getting compensated.

Car insurance companies are highly unlikely to pay out for damaged clothing, and it's probably equally unlikely that the fella in the car is going to hand over cash to you if you tell him the cost of the jeans

That's why its advisable to engage a solicitor and let them handle any and all negotiations with insurance companies and 3rd parties. Plenty of young aggressive legal professionals out there....

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#2663 21-01-2021 5:34pm

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coming downhill past omni, a poxy ****stick in a white yaris drove right out onto the road in front of me from behind the wall on the left here (i.e. where the white SUV is). i had plenty of room and enough time to react and swerve around him, but what really annoyed me was his car had a nurburgring sticker on it. a yaris with a nurburgring sticker. the car should be taken from him and crushed.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3888206,-6.2459068,3a,75y,150.17h,73.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP_6hujffQc6iVj21GjqPzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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#2664 21-01-2021 5:41pm

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AndrewJRenko wrote: »

That's a good answer.

Another good answer is "because I felt like it" because you don't have to justify your route choices to anyone. You don't have to choose your route to minimise inconvenience to others.

You are of course correct but sometimes discretion is the better part of valour. In a situation where I was pulled up on it for no reason, I would go with your response. In this scenario, I feel it gets across that I have actually thought about my actions and therefore am a reasonably attentive road user. It, hopefully, immediately dispels the concern of the Garda that I might have provoked the driver earlier (which should never be a reason or an excuse, but adds a layer on top for the Garda (I also have it on rear camera so no concern there if they did ask)).

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#2665 21-01-2021 5:42pm

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magicbastarder wrote: »

but what really annoyed me was his car had a nurburgring sticker on it. a yaris with a nurburgring sticker. the car should be taken from him and crushed.

Apologies in advance for this segway. After your comment I had a random thought wondering if people can cycle on the nurburgring. Sure enough!

I'd say that'd be an experience.

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#2666 21-01-2021 5:47pm

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tjhook wrote: »

Apologies in advance for this segway. After your comment I had a random thought wondering if people can cycle on the nurburgring. Sure enough!

I'd say that'd be an experience.

Can you put a ring sticker on your bike afterwards?

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#2667 21-01-2021 5:54pm

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tjhook wrote: »

Apologies in advance for this segway. After your comment I had a random thought wondering if people can cycle on the nurburgring. Sure enough!

I'd say that'd be an experience.

a bunch of my colleagues have done it; relay races.

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#2668 21-01-2021 6:05pm

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More climbing than I would have thought on it https://www.strava.com/segments/5539685

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CramCycle wrote: »

More climbing than I would have thought on it https://www.strava.com/segments/5539685

Yeah this is the thing about watching F1 racing on TV you never a true sense of the road rising, Spa is the same from what I recall of it.

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#2670 24-01-2021 10:04am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uae0OYntUNs

This was put up in the dash cam in the motorist section.

The YouTube description say "deliveroo cyclists......are a bane to motorists and here is why"

Thankfully the poster (who's also the driver) hasn't got any support.

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#2671 24-01-2021 1:24pm

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micar wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uae0OYntUNs

This was put up in the dash cam in the motorist section.

The YouTube description say "deliveroo cyclists......are a bane to motorists and here is why"

Thankfully the poster (who's also the driver) hasn't got any support.

Video is unavailable now. Must have taken it down if s/he was on the receiving end of abuse. What happened?

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#2672 24-01-2021 1:28pm

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Video is unavailable now. Must have taken it down if s/he was on the receiving end of abuse. What happened?

Clearly he assumed all his motorist buddies would pile on in support and admiration but common sense prevailed

Edit: sorry I thought you meant what happened to the video not in it

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#2673 24-01-2021 1:36pm

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It was a deliveroo cyclist travelling along Dublins North quays in the new segregated cycle lane (on the RHS of the road). At a junction the driver who wanted to turn right had to give way to the cyclist who was travelling straight ahead.
The cyclist had right of way and yet the driver with their piss poor skills and knowledge figured that they would demonstrate this ignorance to others hoping for those others to like their obvious stupidity.
They didn't though!

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#2674 24-01-2021 5:53pm

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Glad to hear it. Was there even a hint of remorse or enlightenment from the uploader with his new-found understanding?

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#2675 24-01-2021 5:57pm

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he got roundly roasted, and deleted his video without comment or admission that he may have been in the wrong.

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#2676 24-01-2021 5:59pm

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This was the last post from him https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116024826&postcount=2255

"How was anyone supposed to know where the cyclist was going". Lol.

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#2677 24-01-2021 6:05pm

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Not just a Morlock, a Grunt Morlock at that.

And the old "I do cycle in fact" for good measure :rolleyes:

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#2678 24-01-2021 8:02pm

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micar wrote: »

This was put up in the dash cam in the motorist section.

The YouTube description say "deliveroo cyclists......are a bane to motorists and here is why"

Thankfully the poster (who's also the driver) hasn't got any support.

i've been watching a few dashcam compilations of late, on an english youtube channel, and the amusing part is 90% of the comments is people enjoying the irony of so many people sending videos in which reveal their *own* colossal idiocy. they send the video in clearly with the intent of a 'look at this dose' reaction, and they're the dose.

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#2679 24-01-2021 9:49pm

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MojoMaker wrote: »

Glad to hear it. Was there even a hint of remorse or enlightenment from the uploader with his new-found understanding?

Zero chance.

Not interested in what is right or wrong, only interested in targetting someone they look down on - and getting lots of 'likes' from people of a similar mind.

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#2680 24-01-2021 10:31pm

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Tombo2001 wrote: »

Zero chance.

Deleted when randomers on youtube started heavy on the thumbs down and asking was he joking or a muppet.

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#2681 24-01-2021 10:32pm

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'lots of likes' being 'none'.
certainly on the dashcam thread, but not sure if you're referring to youtube?
he didn't get a single thanks on the post with the video, or any subsequent posts justifying his stance.

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#2682 24-01-2021 10:49pm

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magicbastarder wrote: »

'lots of likes' being 'none'.
certainly on the dashcam thread, but not sure if you're referring to youtube?
he didn't get a single thanks on the post with the video, or any subsequent posts justifying his stance.

I was referring to youtube, 4 thumbs up, alot more thumbs down.

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#2683 24-01-2021 11:09pm

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whoops, you posted between me and Tombo2001, whose post i was replying to.

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#2684 25-01-2021 10:28am

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magicbastarder wrote: »

'lots of likes' being 'none'.
certainly on the dashcam thread, but not sure if you're referring to youtube?
he didn't get a single thanks on the post with the video, or any subsequent posts justifying his stance.

He must be due an annual visit to this forum to object to stuff like the Strand Road cycle lane or bike sharing schemes..."as a cyclist" :rolleyes:

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#2685 25-01-2021 11:13am

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magicbastarder wrote: »

i've been watching a few dashcam compilations of late, on an english youtube channel, and the amusing part is 90% of the comments is people enjoying the irony of so many people sending videos in which reveal their *own* colossal idiocy. they send the video in clearly with the intent of a 'look at this dose' reaction, and they're the dose.

That is also a guilty pleasure of mine - figuring out the ToTW before going to the comments.

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#2686 25-01-2021 11:21am

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as commented on the dashcam thread over in the motors forum, they probably deliberately salt those compilations with them because that drives (pun unintended) views.

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#2687 26-01-2021 7:13pm

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Got a call from Gardai in relation to my complaint of a very near miss and guy then trying to push me off my bike. Offered my a fine & pts and a caution or could go to court.

They agreed that if he disputes it and says I hit his car they'll just say it proves he was too close. Happy to go with the fine, because court is his word against mine, and could get someone like Nolan or Zaidan who will find a reason to believe I was somehow wrong.

First time using trafficwatch, and only did it because of his reaction, but happy enough with that.

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#2688 26-01-2021 8:42pm

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Zaidan is no friend of the motorist don't forget.

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#2689 26-01-2021 9:09pm

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And Nolan is in the Circuit Court.

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#2690 26-01-2021 10:13pm

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Weepsie wrote: »

Got a call from Gardai in relation to my complaint of a very near miss and guy then trying to push me off my bike. Offered my a fine & pts and a caution or could go to court.

They agreed that if he disputes it and says I hit his car they'll just say it proves he was too close. Happy to go with the fine, because court is his word against mine, and could get someone like Nolan or Zaidan who will find a reason to believe I was somehow wrong.

First time using trafficwatch, and only did it because of his reaction, but happy enough with that.

The points are the bigger impact than the fine. He'll be thinking of you fondly for each of his next three insurance renewals.

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#2691 26-01-2021 11:15pm

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AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The points are the bigger impact than the fine. He'll be thinking of you fondly for each of his next three insurance renewals.

And the half a dozen reg checks on Pulse against his vehicle won't help if he decides to go for a repeat anytime

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#2692 29-01-2021 9:21pm

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buffalo wrote: »

One for Trafficwatch on Monday morning:

Remembered to follow up with the Garda today - points and a fine issued.

That's the most satisfactory result I've gotten from reporting, and it's the only time I haven't gone through TrafficWatch. Part of me wonders if they take you more seriously when you go to the effort of showing up at the station to make the complaint straight off, but it's probably just luck of the draw.

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#2693 29-01-2021 9:26pm

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did you get any 'why weren't you on the cycle path?' from the gardai?

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#2694 29-01-2021 9:27pm

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Well done.

Will it have any positive effect, or will it sour that auld lad's attitude towards cyclists in the future......who knows, but it had to be done &#55357;&#57010;

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#2695 29-01-2021 11:13pm

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magicbastarder wrote: »

did you get any 'why weren't you on the cycle path?' from the gardai?

No, I don't think they picked up on it when I showed them the video, and they didn't know the area that well.

I was forthright about it when making the statement, explained that it wasn't a great section of cycle lane, but they didn't see it as an issue at all.

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#2696 30-01-2021 10:12pm

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buffalo wrote: »

That's the most satisfactory result I've gotten from reporting, and it's the only time I haven't gone through TrafficWatch. Part of me wonders if they take you more seriously when you go to the effort of showing up at the station to make the complaint straight off, but it's probably just luck of the draw.

Funny you say that my experience has been the exact same, traffic watch just adds an extra layer and hassle of having to arrange to meet the guard it assigned to where as if you do it in person everything is done in one maybe two visits if you've to drop in a USB of the footage.

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#2697 30-01-2021 10:44pm

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tnegun wrote: »

...if you've to drop in a USB of the footage.

I've recently been giving them the video via streamable.com as I'm too tight to be buying us keys just to give them away - so far I've never been refused.

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#2698 30-01-2021 10:55pm

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Seth Brundle wrote: »

I've recently been giving them the video via streamable.com as I'm too tight to be buying us keys just to give them away - so far I've never been refused.

I was asked to crop the video to the bare minimum and email it. I think I had to get it down to about 1.5-2 seconds before it was successfully received.

But no bounce message when it was too large, so I got a phone call from a Garda wondering why I hadn't sent in the video a week later.

In the past, I had a Garda who used their phone to record the video playing on my laptop.

Edit: I offered a link to youTube or Vimeo, but they said the Garda computers wouldn't allow access to those sites.

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#2699 02-02-2021 10:19pm

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fatbhoy wrote: »

A couple of friends said to me that sorry isn't good enough, and the more I thought about it the more I agreed. So I reported it to the Gardai with a view to claiming off his insurance for the medical charge and a set of scuffed pedals. The Garda said she'd pass on his insurance details to me so I can claim.

Just mentioning this in case it happens to someone else.

Update: the manager of the Dominos branch paid for new pedals and the A&E charge today; took about a day, so they were really quick and easy to deal with. Although I had to sign a waiver letter saying there would be no further expenses or liability, but I was happy to sign it.

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Right call made there, you were dead right. Why should you be out of pocket due to someone else's negligence. You hear people going on about claim culture that certainly isn't it.

Our local domino's is a fatality waiting to happen, it's right next to a T junction and drivers regularly fly in and out crossing a footpath coming the wrong side of the road to get a short cut to the delivery entrance/carpark.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7130872,-6.3462745,3a,75y,194.48h,87.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D150.36415%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

I've 2 emails saved complaining about this in the event something ever happens there.

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#2701 02-02-2021 11:57pm

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Right call made there, you were dead right. Why should you be out of pocket due to someone else's negligence. You hear people going on about claim culture that certainly isn't it.

Our local domino's is a fatality waiting to happen, it's right next to a T junction and drivers regularly fly in and out crossing a footpath coming the wrong side of the road to get a short cut to the delivery entrance/carpark.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7130872,-6.3462745,3a,75y,194.48h,87.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DdAZqtazxzPZslgyojD5jfQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D150.36415%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

I've 2 emails saved complaining about this in the event something ever happens there.

Sounded like my local Domino.......and is actually is.

Absolutely crazy how they drive in and out.

Was driving up the Dublin rd coming passed the St Mary's church .....I was in the right hand lane ...some prick flew passed me on left and pulled across the front of me to take thd right turn up Mary's Street....low and behold he drove into the back of Dominos.

I felt like ringing down when I got home to complain.

Always so careful crossing the road there with the dog .... you just never know a car is going to come from.

You're right...there is going to be an accident there one day

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