How did WW II start?

--amadeus-- · 10-09-2009 11:35pm #1

Well we all know that, don't we?

Germany invaded Poland. UK and France had promised to defend it and hey presto, WWII. But wait...

In September 1939 the world plunged into the most violent conflict in its history. But to understand why, argues Niall Ferguson, we need to look beyond the familiar story of Hitler's rise to power...

Very interesting read that contextualises the war and it's origins and debunks a few myths.

And since we're in a WWII mood have you ever heard of WunderWaffe? Some of them were obviously white elephants (the giant tanks for example) but a V3 capable of delivering a biological warhead into Manhattan? Even the jets - which saw active service late on - could have been decisive had they been brought in earlier. And some were just mad, Ted! Vortex gun anyone?

And lastly how can you mention WWII without mentioning Georgie Patton, probably the most quotable soldier of them all! I wonder what he would have said if he'd been offered a Wind Cannon?

TheManWho · 10-09-2009 11:59pm

The end of the war is also under debate. Some people claim that it didn't officaly end until as late as 1990, when east and west Germany were reunified and the country that started the war could be recognised as a country again.

Coriolanus · 13-09-2009 1:14am

I can't get over how similar the Gotha bomber looks to the F117.

VinnyTGM · 03-10-2009 11:58pm

The USA took all the German design's and made their own stuff.

Coriolanus · 04-10-2009 12:06am

Certainly seems so!

Pacha · 04-10-2009 2:39pm

theres a different angle on the ofiicial line
in this clip from Zeitgeist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYztlGtoJZM

kleefarr · 04-10-2009 2:53pm

Nevore wrote: »

I can't get over how similar the Gotha bomber looks to the F117.

It actually had some stealth properties as well.
I watched a Discovery program where they rebuilt a model of it to 1/2 scale I think it was. They then tested it for anti radar properties and it showed some very advanced properties for it's time. Amazingly most of it was built with wood.

vangoz · 08-10-2009 5:09pm

Yeah pretty interesting stuff, especially the "Anti-Gravity" device, think it was nicknamed the bell afterwoods.

hiorta · 12-10-2009 5:07am

The origins of WW 11 were rooted in the 'settlement' imposed upon the Germasn people after WW1.
The entry of America into WW11 in 1942 - after Germany declared war on them for continued violation of their neutral status against German interests - hurried matters to a conclusion

monosharp · 12-10-2009 5:23am

03-11-2009 4:28pm

TheManWho wrote: »

The end of the war is also under debate. Some people claim that it didn't officaly end until as late as 1990, when east and west Germany were reunified and the country that started the war could be recognised as a country again.

Also, West Berlin was technically under Allied occupation until 1990

declan46 · 05-11-2009 5:16pm

994 wrote: »

Also, West Berlin was technically under Allied occupation until 1990

maybe so but most people see a war as ending when one side surrenders or an agrerementg on terms is reached between the parties involved.

kevrr · 15-11-2009 9:34pm

The original link to the article does not seem to be working, I found it at this site if anyone is looking for it.

johngalway · 27-11-2009 8:10pm

World War 2 started with the terms put on Germany after WW1, IMHO.

chughes · 27-11-2009 8:15pm

I think it was Spike Milligan who had the theory that WW2 was started by Vera Lynn's record company to push sales of her records. You'd just never know...

How did WW II start?

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