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Should landlord give notice of when he will call to cut lawn

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  • #52
    K.Flyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    People in apartment complexes don't get notice that the grass is going to be cut or bushes cut back on certain days, although they will notify when painting or window cleaning is scheduled.
    She is lucky that the L.L. is tending to the gardening, as most don't.


  • #53
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    People in apartment complexes don't get notice that the grass is going to be cut or bushes cut back on certain days, although they will notify when painting or window cleaning is scheduled.
    She is lucky that the L.L. is tending to the gardening, as most don't.
    She'd have another whinge if he didn't


  • #54
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Under the RTA the tenant is entitled to uninterrupted use of the property.

    The tenant is only entitled to peaceful enjoyment. The LL is obliged to maintain the exterior. Only if he is abusing the right such as coming excessively would the tenant have grounds for a complaint. You should try reading the legislation some time.


  • #55
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    The tenant is only entitled to peaceful enjoyment. The LL is obliged to maintain the exterior. Only if he is abusing the right such as coming excessively would the tenant have grounds for a complaint. You should try reading the legislation some time.
    You should try the enjoyment of polite non-aggressive discussion.
    K.Flyer wrote: »
    People in apartment complexes don't get notice that the grass is going to be cut or bushes cut back on certain days, although they will notify when painting or window cleaning is scheduled.
    She is lucky that the L.L. is tending to the gardening, as most don't.
    That;'s because it's not part of the property.
    In an apartment the central areas are property of the OMC


  • #56
    DubJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭DubJJ


    I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the responses on this thread, we live in an age where everybody has a mobile phone and a text message takes seconds and costs nothing!
    I don't think it's ok for somebody to turn up at my home anytime they want, where my wife and kids might be alone and startled. We are all entitled to walk around our home in our underwear or let the kids get dressed without the fear of somebody peering through the window or wandering around the garden unannounced.
    I respect that this landlord takes pride in their property and I commend them for taking responsibility for the garden, but surely out of common courtesy a simple text message before hand would be the least that a tenant could expect.
    Forget the legalities or tenant/landlord rights, we are talking about people just respecting each others boundaries!


  • #57
    Cows Go µ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭Cows Go µ


    In my last rented house, the landlord had a guy who would come over to cut the grass. I was thankful but he refused to give me any notice. Which was really annoying because I had 2 dogs so I would have done a poo lift in the garden if I knew someone was coming (I did it quite often but I'd prefer to have it completely clear)


  • #58
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    DubJJ wrote: »
    I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the responses on this thread, we live in an age where everybody has a mobile phone and a text message takes seconds and costs nothing!
    I don't think it's ok for somebody to turn up at my home anytime they want, where my wife and kids might be alone and startled. We are all entitled to walk around our home in our underwear or let the kids get dressed without the fear of somebody peering through the window or wandering around the garden unannounced.
    I respect that this landlord takes pride in their property and I commend them for taking responsibility for the garden, but surely out of common courtesy a simple text message before hand would be the least that a tenant could expect.
    Forget the legalities or tenant/landlord rights, we are talking about people just respecting each others boundaries!

    If something happens reasonably frequently nobody will be startled. Walking around the house in your underwear is giving bad example to children. Underwear is just that - underwear and should not be used as outerwear.


  • #59
    DubJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭DubJJ


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    DubJJ wrote: »
    I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the responses on this thread, we live in an age where everybody has a mobile phone and a text message takes seconds and costs nothing!
    I don't think it's ok for somebody to turn up at my home anytime they want, where my wife and kids might be alone and startled. We are all entitled to walk around our home in our underwear or let the kids get dressed without the fear of somebody peering through the window or wandering around the garden unannounced.
    I respect that this landlord takes pride in their property and I commend them for taking responsibility for the garden, but surely out of common courtesy a simple text message before hand would be the least that a tenant could expect.
    Forget the legalities or tenant/landlord rights, we are talking about people just respecting each others boundaries!

    If something happens reasonably frequently nobody will be startled. Walking around the house in your underwear is giving bad example to children. Underwear is just that - underwear and should not be used as outerwear.
    What a ridiculous argument, do you actually have any sensible reason why a text message couldn't be sent first?


  • #60
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    This exact query comes up periodically in this forum for example here


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  • #61
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    DubJJ wrote: »
    What a ridiculous argument, do you actually have any sensible reason why a text message couldn't be sent first?

    A knock on the door is more environmentally friendly.


  • #62
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    A landlord is legally obliged to maintain the exterior of any rental property (with the sole exception of properties vested in a management company).
    He/she can make maintaining the exterior of a property a term of letting the property and offload their obligation on the tenant.
    If the tenant subsequently fails to honour the terms of the lease- and does not maintain the exterior of the property (including the garden/landscaping)- the landlord is legally liable and can be fined by the Department and/or jailed for a term of not more than 3 months.

    Regardless of whether or not a landlord makes cutting the grass a term of granting a tenant a lease- the landlords lease with their tenant is a civil matter- and unenforceable. The landlord however- can be prosecuted if the grass is not cut- even if the tenant is supposed to be doing it.

    Its yet another one of those Catch 22 situations- where you're damned no matter what you do or do not do.

    If the OP is unhappy with the landlord coming round to cut the grass- they can lodge a case with the RTB claiming he/she is infringing on their right to peaceful enjoyment of the property- and the landlord in turn- can respond pointing to the Act and his/her obligations under it- and the RTB would, if they had any sense at all, drop the tenant's case like a hot potato.

    The whole purpose of this particular article- was to remove a landlord's excuse and ensure they maintained the exterior of the property. Good luck to anyone who wants to try and pick holes in it.


  • #63
    henryforde80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭henryforde80


    I think common sense and courtesy are long gone out the window of the accomodation forum.

    Are people that self absorbed that they are too snobby or up their own arse on a high horse to send a text.


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