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Weather outlook for July

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,984 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Harps wrote: »
    I can remember one great thunderstorm around 10 years ago, still easily stands out as the best I've ever seen. Must have lasted at least 2 hours with proper torrential rain and hail, lots of fork lightning and strikes including one that hit a pier about 20 metres from me. I was only 12 or 13 at the time so didnt really appreciate it but would love to see something like that again.

    Not overly bothered with a heatwave at this stage but a few proper sunny days wouldnt go amiss, I know its been a decent week in the east but here is been dull and grey all week

    are we possibly thinking of the same band of thunderstorms. the storm i recall was sometime in May. When was yours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,984 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Pangea wrote: »
    Seen a tremendous thunderstorm in the East Coast of USA few years ago, Unreal! Don't think I'l ever see the like in Ireland.

    Apparently there was spectacular thunderstorms in 1985 across the eastern half of Ireland. Also during May 1986, there was said to be decent thunderstorms activity in the west and northwest. I can vaguely recollect the storm activity of May 1986. There was loud thunder, but the lightning wasn't anything like I witnessed in 2001


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Derfil


    Apparently there was spectacular thunderstorms in 1985 across the eastern half of Ireland. Also during May 1986, there was said to be decent thunderstorms activity in the west and northwest. I can vaguely recollect the storm activity of May 1986. There was loud thunder, but the lightning wasn't anything like I witnessed in 2001

    Remember he one in 1985. Savage... Loads of dead crows around the place from the hail that fell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    are we possibly thinking of the same band of thunderstorms. the storm i recall was sometime in May. When was yours?

    Nah the one I remember was during the Summer, probably around this time of the year in mid July. Reason I remember it so well is we were swimming at the time, it was a lovely sunny day then out of nowhere it started absolutely pouring down hail and everyone had to run for shelter in a nearby restaurant. The road outside turned into a river and lightning struck the pier outside. Fun times :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Apparently there was spectacular thunderstorms in 1985 across the eastern half of Ireland.
    There sure was, Thursday night/Friday morning July 25th/26th 1985. The best I've witnessed in Ireland, though I was a 10 year old scared to death. That night started my obsession with weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Su Campu wrote: »
    There sure was, Thursday night/Friday morning July 25th/26th 1985. The best I've witnessed in Ireland, though I was a 10 year old scared to death. That night started my obsession with weather.

    Yes, that was the best/worse ever I have experienced, it was like a never ending nightmare as it went on for hour after hour after hour, must have lasted near 12 hours or more? and my mother was near scared to death, she got herself into a right state, I don't know how many rosaries we had to say that evening...
    Looking back just glad my father, sister and I survived it, bringing in hay from the fields as it started, lighting bolts hitting the field we were in and quite close several times, thought we were going to die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Apparently there was spectacular thunderstorms in 1985 across the eastern half of Ireland. Also during May 1986, there was said to be decent thunderstorms activity in the west and northwest. I can vaguely recollect the storm activity of May 1986. There was loud thunder, but the lightning wasn't anything like I witnessed in 2001

    The 1986 event killed 8 cattle on my uncle's farm, not as bad as the storms of 1985.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Min wrote: »
    Apparently there was spectacular thunderstorms in 1985 across the eastern half of Ireland. Also during May 1986, there was said to be decent thunderstorms activity in the west and northwest. I can vaguely recollect the storm activity of May 1986. There was loud thunder, but the lightning wasn't anything like I witnessed in 2001

    The 1986 event killed 8 cattle on my uncle's farm, not as bad as the storms of 1985.

    often thought those storms of 85 and 86 were exaggereated in my memory by the passing years but damn they were bad. Never saw thunder storms sustain over such a period. Sleep was impossible those nights all one could do was huddle in the dark in the kitchen candlelight counting the intervals hoping it was getting further away but secretly hoping it would get worse.

    I lived in America later and experiened some serious thunder there but for sustained menace those storms of my youth take some beating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    I am not sure if its the same storm or not but I remember the forked lightning being particularly spectacular. My aunt couldn't get me in from outside, I was having too much fun hopping around (underneath a massive electricity pole!! Darwin awards stuff i know :o).

    She dashed out from the house and grabbed me under her arm and carried me into the house, me protesting loudly all the way. The thunder was so loud it was making the windows vibrate like mental. You had to shout to be heard over it! It was MAGIC!! (especially when you are young and have no concept of danger). The lighning was multicoloured and i remember thinking it was like a massive show of fireworks shooting through the sky! Thinking back now, it was like something designed using CGI.

    Locally several peoples homes were struck, there were a few small fires. Lots of powerlines were hit and one guy was on the phone at the time, lightning struck the line, blasted the phone from his hand (completely melted it) , deafened him in that ear, shot through his body, exited through the sole of his foot and knocked him unconscious. He was so lucky to escape with his life. The lightning is believed to have bounced around the kitchen wreaking things till it found an escape through the chimney. :eek: Found this out years later, and gained a whole new respect for lighning.

    The power was out in that area of Donegal for some days.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Aerohead


    Jez guys talk about going off the beaten track, I thought this thread was about weather outlook for July not going back in time to other storms. :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 Look whos talking


    Sure just cut out a picture of a sun stick it to your window and turn up the central heating ........ and you have your very own heat wave .... :D


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    A very pleasant 19 degrees and hazy sunshine in Athlone this morning. More of the same tomorrow I think, then downhill from there :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Would anyone be willing to give a rough forecast for next week and the week after. I've four friends coming from Germany for two weeks and they are big into hillwalking. We are trying to plan a couple of things, they intend doing a bit in Wicklow, Connemara and Cork/Kerry. I know its hit and miss but it would be good to know if there is much rain expected.

    Thanks for any help.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Cooler with more frequent showers/downpours I'm afraid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Well generally MT is the forecast so go to his forecast thread.

    I would say myself that next week will be unsettled and showery but the end of the month which encompasses some of your period in question looks promising.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,984 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    eskimocat wrote: »
    I am not sure if its the same storm or not but I remember the forked lightning being particularly spectacular. My aunt couldn't get me in from outside, I was having too much fun hopping around (underneath a massive electricity pole!! Darwin awards stuff i know :o).

    She dashed out from the house and grabbed me under her arm and carried me into the house, me protesting loudly all the way. The thunder was so loud it was making the windows vibrate like mental. You had to shout to be heard over it! It was MAGIC!! (especially when you are young and have no concept of danger). The lighning was multicoloured and i remember thinking it was like a massive show of fireworks shooting through the sky! Thinking back now, it was like something designed using CGI.

    Locally several peoples homes were struck, there were a few small fires. Lots of powerlines were hit and one guy was on the phone at the time, lightning struck the line, blasted the phone from his hand (completely melted it) , deafened him in that ear, shot through his body, exited through the sole of his foot and knocked him unconscious. He was so lucky to escape with his life. The lightning is believed to have bounced around the kitchen wreaking things till it found an escape through the chimney. :eek: Found this out years later, and gained a whole new respect for lighning.

    The power was out in that area of Donegal for some days.

    Eskimocat, you have a talent for describing events very vividly. You are a good storyteller. Not to put you on the spot or anything:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Aerohead wrote: »
    Jez guys talk about going off the beaten track, I thought this thread was about weather outlook for July not going back in time to other storms. :D:D


    Indeed!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=296970 is the link for July 25th 1985


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Mayo Exile


    Quite nice today! Image at about 2.20pm (BST).

    166947.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    OKish day today was in co clare, spanish point.....mildly warm hazy sunshine i taught it would be better tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭fizzycyst


    It was splittin' the rocks here in Waterford, beautiful sunny day:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Aiel


    Does anyone have an ECM run chart for 31st July please?Im heading down to Killarney for final day of the Irish Open and MT has been promising nice weather around then.Any chart for around then greatly appreciated.The charts go as far as 20 days in advance yes?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Aiel wrote: »
    Does anyone have an ECM run chart for 31st July please?Im heading down to Killarney for final day of the Irish Open and MT has been promising nice weather around then.Any chart for around then greatly appreciated.The charts go as far as 20 days in advance yes?

    gfs-0-372.png?6

    http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,592 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The next five or six days will be rather unpleasant but now we have the ECM showing rapid improvement near the end of its ten-day run, similar to the better half of the recent GFS output. Models are not locked in yet, but I would say the odds favour a warmer spell in the last week of July, perhaps even approaching actual "heat" as opposed to warmth which we have already achieved several times this year (granted half of them were in April). :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Blizzard 2010


    July at this stage looks az if it will also end up below average. The next few ECMs wil lbe interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I made a special effort to enjoy the few good days this week in anticipation of an early Autumn - tonights models confirm my strategy with the rest of july looking rather grim as the bane of the our summer remains firmly in place. Hard to have much hope in August eithier given its abymal efforts for nearly a decade now sad.gif


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    July at this stage looks az if it will also end up below average. The next few ECMs wil lbe interesting.


    yeah its not going to recover - time has run out for the models to show an improvement to bring the average temp up to normal

    Is it me or does July actually seem cooler on average than June???
    :eek:

    Frost in August me thinks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭torrentum



    Frost in August me thinks!
    Was there not frost in June? Could swear I heard that in the weather on rte radio one iirc


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    torrentum wrote: »
    Was there not frost in June? Could swear I heard that in the weather on rte radio one iirc

    that there was


    1816 year without summer anomaly - just comparing Ireland with this summer for the fun - this summer didnt appear in 1816 due to a volcanic winter and low solar activity combined so not really comparable to today nevertheless for Ireland if we had a summer with an average of -1.5c below norm then it would qualify for a year without summer!

    1816_summer.png


    June 2011 from Met.ie
    Mean temperatures this month were lower than normal for June, with temperatures across the country being around 1°C below average
    http://met.ie/climate/monthly-summary.asp

    We are more than halfway there!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    The next five or six days will be rather unpleasant but now we have the ECM showing rapid improvement near the end of its ten-day run, similar to the better half of the recent GFS output. Models are not locked in yet, but I would say the odds favour a warmer spell in the last week of July, perhaps even approaching actual "heat" as opposed to warmth which we have already achieved several times this year (granted half of them were in April). :cool:

    GFS looking good as well now, from next friday onwards. Dry and mostly sunny with areas getting temps in the mid to high 20's range. A few more runs needed to get a clearer idea, but looking great at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Duiske wrote: »
    GFS looking good as well now, from next friday onwards. Dry and mostly sunny with areas getting temps in the mid to high 20's range. A few more runs needed to get a clearer idea, but looking great at the moment.

    The King of Wishful Thinking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    fryup wrote: »
    The King of Wishful Thinking

    Eh, no. Its what the 12z GFS was showing yesterday evening. Have a look yourself and tell us what you think. GFS Charts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    they said on rte weather @9.00 last evening that today would be mostly sunny..

    well it wasn't!!:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭morticia2


    fryup wrote: »
    they said on rte weather @9.00 last evening that today would be mostly sunny..

    well it wasn't!!:mad:

    I don't think we saw the sun all day.... and the roof at work was leaking.
    Another bullseye by the Met (not).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    Cork was sunny, wasn't it?

    It's funny how people always say MET are wrong, yet they listen in to the forecast anyways!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Big Tone


    Nabber wrote: »
    Cork was sunny, wasn't it?

    It's funny how people always say MET are wrong, yet they listen in to the forecast anyways!?!

    http://www.yr.no/place/Ireland/Munster/Cork/long.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    It was sunny here most of the last two days. God forbid some part of Ireland suffers mis-forecast, Met Eireann are immdeiately branded wrong for the whole country. They got your area wrong which is no way in their fault. Ireland has an super unpredictable climate....the sooner people come to terms with this, the better.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0722/weather.html

    No heatwave, but warm weather ahead anyway..lets hope the high isnt too dirty :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Blizzard 2010


    I wonder how the monthly mean will be affected by the forthcoming rise in temperature,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    fryup wrote: »
    they said on rte weather @9.00 last evening that today would be mostly sunny..

    well it wasn't!!:mad:

    and ditto for today:cool:

    bout time met eireann got their act together


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  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Timmyboy


    Always has seemed to me that the Met Eireann forecast is meant for the Dublin Metropolitian area. Down in Cork and Kerry due to the island nature and 150 mile separation the weather is often entirely different anyway but rather than be confusing the senior civil servants who pay Met Eireann salaries, they deliver the consistent message as per what they are told of Global Warming, Sunny today in Dublin.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭inabina


    incredible difference between our MT's forecast for Friday and Met Eireann's. I bet MT is closer to the truth

    ME
    Friday: A bright, fresh day with sunny spells; some scattered showers also. Highest temperatures 14 to 17 degrees in fresh northerly winds:rolleyes:

    MT
    Sunny and rather warm again, light winds, highs 20-24 C. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭JM Skipton


    Because there is such a difference of opinion between ME & MT for the next few days it is going to be really interesting to see who is right!

    So far I think ME are edging it today based on both forecasts altough they are not too disimilar

    ME: Some bright or sunny spells today but mostly cloudy and misty with patches of rain, drizzle or fog and some heavy rain in places. A mild day with highest temperatures of 17 to 20 or 21 degrees in light breezes

    MT:Some brief light showers may drift through north central counties this morning and then die out in Leinster during the afternoon. Otherwise, rather extensive cloud will tend to break up somewhat to reveal hazy sunshine with warm and humid conditions, tempered somewhat near the Connacht and west Munster coasts by sporadic low cloud or sea fog. Highs will range from 18-20 C in the west to 21-24 C in the east and inland south. Winds generally light northwest becoming moderate westerly near the coasts by afternoon. Can't rule out one or two isolated rumbles of thunder with the showers as described earlier.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    inabina wrote: »
    incredible difference between our MT's forecast for Friday and Met Eireann's. I bet MT is closer to the truth

    ME
    Friday: A bright, fresh day with sunny spells; some scattered showers also. Highest temperatures 14 to 17 degrees in fresh northerly winds:rolleyes:

    MT
    Sunny and rather warm again, light winds, highs 20-24 C. :D

    Met Eireann are going by one model, MT is going by 3 others giving a different story (and his gut instinct :pac:)

    The models that Met Eireann are following are changing trends towards a warmer pattern though, so ME might be changing their forecast in the coming days if the model continues to trends towards the others


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