Dyson 12" Desk Fan

gizmo81 · 18-07-2017 8:19pm #1

ElectroCity are selling the Dyson desk fan for €249, seems like a great price. Other sites over €300

http://electrocity.ie/dyson-am06-12-desk-fan-in-white/

Very tempted, have an animal hoover and it's fantastic.

UsedToWait · 18-07-2017 8:20pm

gizmo81 wrote: »

Dyson desk fan for €249...

...have an animal hoover and it's fantastic.

Number 1 fan

Pelvis · 18-07-2017 8:21pm

Paid €20 for my desk fan.

Hococop · 18-07-2017 8:23pm

Pelvis wrote: »

Paid €20 for my desk fan.

Yeah same feeling, not trying to take a dig but €250-300 seems crazy for a desk fan. Could be wrong are they any good?

UsedToWait · 18-07-2017 8:23pm

Pelvis wrote: »

Paid €20 for my desk fan.

I think this one has air cleaning properties, which I'd definitely buy into, if it were half that price.

Creamy Goodness · 18-07-2017 8:26pm

This always comes up when a brand name has a discounted price. People don't care if you bought a fan for €20, you didn't buy a dyson at that price.

Just let the bargain pass you by.

UsedToWait · 18-07-2017 8:33pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

This always comes up when a brand name has a discounted price. People don't care if you bought a fan for €20, you didn't buy a dyson at that price.

Just let the bargain pass you by.

But pray tell why 250 is a bargain for a desk fan?

dusty207 · 18-07-2017 8:35pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

This always comes up when a brand name has a discounted price. People don't care if you bought a fan for €20, you didn't buy a dyson at that price.

Just let the bargain pass you by.

At €249 for a desk fan I'm delighted to let this "bargain" pass me by.
I fell into the Dyson "brand" trap a while back and bought a vacuum cleaner. Piece of over engineered crap which broke down after a couple of years light use.
Binned it and bought a far cheaper one which is still going strong.

gizmo81 · 18-07-2017 8:38pm

UsedToWait wrote: »

But pray tell why 250 is a bargain for a desk fan?

I posted it because these are usually over €300

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1423291/Trail/searchtext%3EDYSON+DESK+FAN.htm

I thought it was worth alerting interested parties of the €80 saving.

gizmo81 · 18-07-2017 8:44pm

dusty207 wrote: »

At €249 for a desk fan I'm delighted to let this "bargain" pass me by.
I fell into the Dyson "brand" trap a while back and bought a vacuum cleaner. Piece of over engineered crap which broke down after a couple of years light use.
Binned it and bought a far cheaper one which is still going strong.

You have six years warranty under the Sale of Goods Act 1980

sdanseo · 18-07-2017 8:47pm

gizmo81 wrote: »

You have six years warranty under the Sale of Goods Act 1980

The Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 only states that goods must be of merchantable quality, as described, and match any sample displayed.

The six year thing is a misinterpretation of an EC Directive. Even then, you have to prove that the fault existed at the time of purchase unless the goods are less than six months old. Since no one can usually prove this, most people who actually get refunds, etc. get them because they threaten some form of legal action via the small claims court.

On topic, €250 for a fan is a waste of money.

TheDriver · 18-07-2017 8:49pm

In our lovely country, I cant seem many needing an expensive desk fan.

high horse · 18-07-2017 8:51pm

dusty207 wrote: »

At €249 for a desk fan I'm delighted to let this "bargain" pass me by.
I fell into the Dyson "brand" trap a while back and bought a vacuum cleaner. Piece of over engineered crap which broke down after a couple of years light use.
Binned it and bought a far cheaper one which is still going strong.

Appropriate user name there Dusty!

Creamy Goodness · 18-07-2017 8:55pm

UsedToWait wrote: »

But pray tell why 250 is a bargain for a desk fan?

OP has mentioned he's seen them for €80 more expensive. At €249, €80 is a ~24% discount. That's why I think it's a bargain as it's comparing like with like. The fact it's a desk fan is irrelevant, it could be anything item.

dusty207 · 18-07-2017 8:55pm

gizmo81 wrote: »

You have six years warranty under the Sale of Goods Act 1980

Thanks for that but the shop I bought it from ceased trading. I then got onto Dyson directly and was given an almighty run around. They clearly had no interest in doing anything to resolve the issue so I gave up.
They never took up my advice to change their slogan from "Dyson, the cleaner that never loses suction" to "Dyson, the cleaner that sucks"

:D:D

lenan · 18-07-2017 8:57pm

Have to say was in currys yesterday (warehouse type store) and I was very impressed with the Dyson fan, I actually thought there was air conditioner unit at the tills.

dusty207 · 18-07-2017 9:00pm

sdanseo wrote: »

On topic, €250 for a fan is a waste of money.

Not really, is €100,000 for a car a waste of money if you want that model?

CeilingFly · 18-07-2017 9:06pm

dusty207 wrote: »

Thanks for that but the shop I bought it from ceased trading. I then got onto Dyson directly and was given an almighty run around. They clearly had no interest in doing anything to resolve the issue so I gave up.
They never took up my advice to change their slogan from "Dyson, the cleaner that never loses suction" to "Dyson, the cleaner that sucks" :D:D

100% agree that dyson service is poor. Got their mini vacuum a good few years back, had issues with recharging, was near impossible to contact them and they claimed the out of warranty trick.

Well known issue with the model - argued with them. They offered a "reduced price" new battery and charger. I declined and never have bought one of their products since.

Generally they get more bad reviews for their after care service than a premium price brand should get.

gizmo81 · 18-07-2017 9:10pm

sdanseo wrote: »

The Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 only states that goods must be of merchantable quality, as described, and match any sample displayed.

The six year thing is a misinterpretation of an EC Directive. Even then, you have to prove that the fault existed at the time of purchase unless the goods are less than six months old. Since no one can usually prove this, most people who actually get refunds, etc. get them because they threaten some form of legal action via the small claims court.

On topic, €250 for a fan is a waste of money.

No you don't have to prove the fault existed, it must be fit for purpose.

Under the Sale of Goods and Associated Guarantees Directive 99/44/EC, the goods must be as described by the seller, fit for usual purpose, and of satisfactory quality and performance.

Responsibilities aside, it is important to remember that under the Sale of Goods Act, consumers have up to six years to seek redress for faulty or defective items. There are limits to this law, however. And the limits are typically governed by how much you pay for something, what it is supposed to do and what you do with it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/i-wish-to-register-a-complaint-know-your-consumer-rights-before-the-fight-1.2340398

sunny2004 · 18-07-2017 9:16pm

UsedToWait wrote: »

I think this one has air cleaning properties, which I'd definitely buy into, if it were half that price.

this model doesnt purify

UsedToWait · 18-07-2017 9:18pm

sunny2004 wrote: »

this model doesnt purify

I need purification.
I'm out.

sunny2004 · 18-07-2017 9:20pm

UsedToWait wrote: »

I need purification.
I'm out.

http://electrocity.ie/dyson-pure-cool-link-desk-purifier-fan/

UsedToWait · 18-07-2017 9:36pm

sunny2004 wrote: »

http://electrocity.ie/dyson-pure-cool-link-desk-purifier-fan/

That will be my first post lottery purchase!

tedpan · 18-07-2017 9:50pm

Who is electro city by the way? Looks pretty dodgy.

Also, these fans are regularly on offer online for 220-250e.

A portable air conditioner is a better buy. Not sure if it's needed in Ireland anyway

gizmo81 · 18-07-2017 9:51pm

tedpan wrote: »

Who is electro city by the way? Looks pretty dodgy.

Also, these fans are regularly on offer online for 220-250e.

A portable air conditioner is a better buy. Not sure if it's needed in Ireland anyway

They have shops in Carlow and Kilkenny.

tedpan · 18-07-2017 9:54pm

gizmo81 wrote:

They have shops in Carlow and Kilkenny.

Ah ok.

Currys sell the fan for 279e with no mention of a sale. 30e off is not a bargain in my opinion. But hey ho.

UsedToWait · 18-07-2017 10:02pm

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

OP has mentioned he's seen them for €80 more expensive. At €249, €80 is a ~24% discount. That's why I think it's a bargain as it's comparing like with like. The fact it's a desk fan is irrelevant, it could be anything item.

You picked me up wrong.
I'm not denigrating the BA
I'm looking for a reason to say: Take my money!

sdanseo · 18-07-2017 10:18pm

gizmo81 wrote: »

No you don't have to prove the fault existed, it must be fit for purpose.
Under the Sale of Goods and Associated Guarantees Directive 99/44/EC, the goods must be as described by the seller, fit for usual purpose, and of satisfactory quality and performance.

Responsibilities aside, it is important to remember that under the Sale of Goods Act, consumers have up to six years to seek redress for faulty or defective items. There are limits to this law, however. And the limits are typically governed by how much you pay for something, what it is supposed to do and what you do with it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/i-wish-to-register-a-complaint-know-your-consumer-rights-before-the-fight-1.2340398

Don't want to dive even more off topic or appear completely anal about it, but on a point of clarification - Conor Pope is a mere journalist and I can't read his article because I'm not paying €16 a month for an Irish Times subscription

In any event, he's wrong.

http://www.eccireland.ie/ecc-ireland-issues-advisory-on-consumer-warranties-and-statutory-rights/

If a fault arises within six months of purchase, it is presumed to have existed at the time of purchase. For this reason, the consumer should not have to provide proof of the defect.
If the fault arises more than six months after purchase, the seller may request that the consumer prove the fault did not arise as a result of misuse – for instance, by obtaining a report from an independent expert.

gizmo81 · 18-07-2017 10:22pm

sdanseo wrote: »

Don't want to dive even more off topic, but on a point of clarification - Conor Pope is a mere journalist and I can't read his article because I'm not paying â‚¬16 a month for an Irish Times subscription

http://www.eccireland.ie/ecc-ireland-issues-advisory-on-consumer-warranties-and-statutory-rights/

That contradicts what you said earlier,

The six year thing is a misinterpretation of an EC Directive. Even then, you have to prove that the fault existed at the time of purchase unless the goods are less than six months old. Since no one can usually prove this, most people who actually get refunds, etc. get them because they threaten some form of legal action via the small claims court.

You don't. You have to prove it is a fault and not misuse.

sdanseo · 18-07-2017 10:38pm

gizmo81 wrote: »

That contradicts what you said earlier,
The six year thing is a misinterpretation of an EC Directive. Even then, you have to prove that the fault existed at the time of purchase unless the goods are less than six months old. Since no one can usually prove this, most people who actually get refunds, etc. get them because they threaten some form of legal action via the small claims court.

You don't. You have to prove it is a fault and not misuse.

Touché. Semantics though, because a product that is defective after two years and wasn't misused must therefore have been sold with the propensity to develop the defect. Making it de facto defective at the time of purchase.

My point is similar anyway, in that the burden of proof is usually quite difficult or too time-consuming for most to bother obtaining it.

Can we talk about fans again?

19-07-2017 2:03am

I admit it wouldn't be on my wish list at €250 either.

If it had some magical kinda in-built air conditioning or something, it could well be great purchase and great invention, but as a normal fan, it's a bit much.

To each their own though.

J.pilkington · 19-07-2017 4:34am

sdanseo wrote: »

Don't want to dive even more off topic or appear completely anal about it, but on a point of clarification - Conor Pope is a mere journalist and I can't read his article because I'm not paying €16 a month for an Irish Times

Conor pope knows a little about a lot and generally manages to gets it wrong, he loves the sound of his voice when he's misrepresenting facts. He seems to have slotted in as the new Eddie Hobbs, but like Eddie he will eventually get found out and lose credit when he is found out like Eddie was with property(when he lost his shirt buying a mansion in 2007 and also Brendan investments). I can't understand why people listen to these clowns

b.gud · 19-07-2017 3:32pm

This fan model, along with other ones, is available, refurbished, from the Dyson Ebay outlet at £189.99 (~€215)

wnolan1992 · 20-07-2017 12:13am

Is it worth the price? And this is a genuine question, I'm not trying to have a dig or dispute that this is a bargain, I legitimately want to know is this particular fan worth more than a standard 12" desk fan that you can pick up for 30-40quid?

Better cooling? Quieter? I know I'd pay a nice bit if I could get a fan that's quieter than the Honeywell one I got off Amazon...

For Forks Sake · 20-07-2017 8:32am

gizmo81 wrote: »

They have shops in Carlow and Kilkenny.

Also part of Euronics group.

CeilingFly · 20-07-2017 8:52am

tedpan wrote: »

Who is electro city by the way? Looks pretty dodgy.

Just because a retailer doesn't have big stores in Dublin doesn't make them "dodgy"

They are a family owned group of three stores in Kilkenny, carlow and Waterford.

Been in business for almost 30 years and the service level they provide is way way way above the crap handed out by currys and power city.

tedpan · 20-07-2017 12:16pm

CeilingFly wrote:

They are a family owned group of three stores in Kilkenny, carlow and Waterford.

Power city is family owned too, and not part of a larger group, like euronics.

CeilingFly wrote:

Just because a retailer doesn't have big stores in Dublin doesn't make them "dodgy"

Their website looks dodgy. You can't argue with that

CeilingFly wrote:

Been in business for almost 30 years and the service level they provide is way way way above the crap handed out by currys and power city.

Ok, customer service is a different thing. I can understand that they maybe far superior to the likes of currys and power city, although in the end they're just a reseller.

I can't justify a 30e saving as a "bargain"

viboy · 20-07-2017 5:27pm

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Is it worth the price? And this is a genuine question, I'm not trying to have a dig or dispute that this is a bargain, I legitimately want to know is this particular fan worth more than a standard 12" desk fan that you can pick up for 30-40quid?

Better cooling? Quieter? I know I'd pay a nice bit if I could get a fan that's quieter than the Honeywell one I got off Amazon...

@wnolan1992

Worth it is subjective of course, but my order was delivered today (ordered yesterday for what it's worth).
First impressions are very positive, it's slightly smaller than I expected but generates a decent stream of cool air. Even at maximum strength the noise is nothing more than a slight hum. I haven't tested in rotation mode so that may generate more noise.

The remote control is responsive and attaches nicely to the top of the 'fan' via magnet. Very neat.

Overall, I'm definitely not going to pretend that it's not expensive but Dyson are a top notch brand and this is a well made product.
So far I'm happy that I'll get good value for money out of it.
Never had any dealings with ElectroCity before but impressed by the quick delivery.

DopeTech · 21-07-2017 7:15pm

What a fan-tastic offer!

Bacchus · 28-06-2018 9:10am

Bump given the current heatwave... currently just €30 cheaper than most places at €270... http://www.electrocity.ie/dyson-cool-desk-fan-am06wh/

How do those of you who purchased during the original deal last year feel about the fan now, 1 year on.

tedpan · 28-06-2018 10:56am

Bacchus wrote: »

Bump given the current heatwave... currently just €30 cheaper than most places at €270....

Most places are €269 with a quick Google...

It's 249 here. https://donaghybros.ie/small-appliances/fans/dyson-am06-white-12-inch-desk-fan.html?googleshopping=1&fo_c=1885&fo_k=9a13d7d6b75c22a79555903c4148c77f&fo_s=gplaie&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjtLZBRDLARIsAKT6fXysCzjx8Nu4r93QRZLZl-2GutOjK4biNjJ9uyQ6MUitqa5xFYdJ_w8aAkTVEALw_wcB

b.gud · 28-06-2018 11:56am

tedpan wrote: »

Most places are €269 with a quick Google...

It's 249 here. https://donaghybros.ie/small-appliances/fans/dyson-am06-white-12-inch-desk-fan.html?googleshopping=1&fo_c=1885&fo_k=9a13d7d6b75c22a79555903c4148c77f&fo_s=gplaie&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjtLZBRDLARIsAKT6fXysCzjx8Nu4r93QRZLZl-2GutOjK4biNjJ9uyQ6MUitqa5xFYdJ_w8aAkTVEALw_wcB

£199 (~€226) from the Dyson ebay outlet

xpletiv · 28-06-2018 11:59am

Having stood in front of one yesterday in HN for a while, these are SH!TE. No power or force in them. More power out of my 10 quid tesco one!

docentore · 28-06-2018 12:18pm

Heatwave will be over in less than 10 days (based on all years spent in Ireland), you will be left with ~€250 paper weight on your desk

beardybrewer · 28-06-2018 12:26pm

I'm hot also.

Quit your daydreaming and grab a 99

There's your bargain!

kneemos · 28-06-2018 10:44pm

Some neck to charge 250 quid for a motor,a fan,and a few cents worth of electronics. The "air purifier"model presumably has the added advanced technology of a filter.
Shudder to think what it costs them to make these,way less than a fiver at a guess.

Akrasia · 28-06-2018 11:00pm

kneemos wrote: »

Some neck to charge 250 quid for a motor,a fan,and a few cents worth of electronics. The "air purifier"model presumably has the added advanced technology of a filter.
Shudder to think what it costs them to make these,way less than a fiver at a guess.

Pair of runners with no brand name - 30 quid

Almost the exact same pair of runners with Nike name on it - 100 quid.

Phone with mid range specs - 250 quid
Phone with Iphone badge on it - 800 quid

SNNUS · 28-06-2018 11:04pm

We have one at work, just looks good that's all.. No better than a regular fan.

Sleeper12 · 28-06-2018 11:46pm

Pelvis wrote:

Paid â‚¬20 for my desk fan.

I bought the Dyson desk fan 2 years ago. I use it 8 hours a day all year round. I love it. Its funky looking & is quieter than a 20 euro fan. Having said all that if you are only going to use it for 3 or 4 weeks in the year I'd definitely go with the 20 euro fan.

The Dyson fan doesn't purity the air (you'll pay 500 euro for one that does). Mine is running beside me right now and much as I'd love it to it doesn't keep me any cooler than the 20 euro fan would.

Dyson. Really nice products but really overpriced too

GhostyMcGhost · 29-06-2018 12:06am

Thanks OP. Bought 1/8th

Dyson 12" Desk Fan

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