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Rent a room licensee

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  • 19-06-2019 8:11pm
    #1
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭


    Do you recommend signing an agreement/lease with a licensee if renting a room in your home?

    If so, are there any templates available online?

    TIA


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Addle wrote: »
    Do you recommend signing an agreement/lease with a licensee if renting a room in your home?

    If so, are there any templates available online?

    TIA

    No


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    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Addle wrote: »
    Do you recommend signing an agreement/lease with a licensee if renting a room in your home?

    If so, are there any templates available online?

    TIA

    No. Agree rules but no lease in writing.

    Agree payment amount, date, notice period and basic rules like guests but beyond that you're better off not committing anything to paper /email.


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    As above place up rules and have them agree on your terms.

    They have no rights either way as you can turf them out at any time.....


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    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    OK, thanks.


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    Addle
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    Would it be reasonable to expect a months rent in advance as well as a deposit with such an arrangement?


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    wirelessdude01
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    Addle wrote:
    Would it be reasonable to expect a months rent in advance as well as a deposit with such an arrangement?


    Always.


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    If you take a deposit which is recommended the only issue is if they wreck the place you are best off giving it back as in a lot of cases it turns into a right headache....


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    cronos
    Registered Users Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭cronos


    When asked I suggest having a "Licencee Agreement". That's what's recomended on most websites on the subject. But a Licencee Agreement is not in any way a tennancy or a lease.


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    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    cronos wrote: »
    When asked I suggest having a "Licencee Agreement". That's what's recomended on most websites on the subject. But a Licencee Agreement is not in any way a tennancy or a lease.


    You risk contracting yourself to things. Best to just have some rules one of which is when the rent has to be paid. One months rent and a month in advance is completely standard.


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    riclad
    Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Ask to see id, and a payslip, make sure they are in full time employment.
    not A temp worker.
    write down a list of rules, no guest,s , rent paid on a certain day ,
    is it rent plus utilitys,. eg gas and esb ,each person pays part of the utility bill .
    no Loud noise ,tv, music after 11pm.
    At least 1 months notice must be given if licensee wants to leave the house ,.
    you might need persons name and prsi no as part of your tax return .
    ID is passport, or a drivers license or similar document.


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    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    riclad wrote: »
    Ask to see id, and a payslip, make sure they are in full time employment.
    not A temp worker.
    write down a list of rules, no guest,s , rent paid on a certain day ,
    is it rent plus utilitys,. eg gas and esb ,each person pays part of the utility bill .
    no Loud noise ,tv, music after 11pm.
    At least 1 months notice must be given if licensee wants to leave the house ,.
    you might need persons name and prsi no as part of your tax return .
    ID is passport, or a drivers license or similar document.


    I've no legal basis for this but I'm always dubious about specifying any notice periods whatsoever no matter who they apply to. It's easy enough to find lodgers in most places I wouldn't try an force anyone to stay / keep portions of deposits - they've free run of your gaffe.


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    the_syco
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    riclad wrote: »
    At least 1 months notice must be given if licensee wants to leave the house
    They could demand the same of you when you try to boot them, so no, not a good idea.


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    ted1
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    Addle wrote: »
    Would it be reasonable to expect a months rent in advance as well as a deposit with such an arrangement?

    So do you mean
    Months rent + the last months rent + deposit ?


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    loobylou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    There’s one on this thread, https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057815521&page=1#post105437770


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    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    ted1 wrote: »
    So do you mean
    Months rent + the last months rent + deposit ?

    We thought months rent in advance and months rent as a deposit.


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    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Addle wrote: »
    We thought months rent in advance and months rent as a deposit.
    Don't word it as this. Just a months rent in advance and deposit. Prevents the scenario where they are short one month and ask to use the months rent used as deposit as a months rent.


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    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Thanks for all the replies.

    Would renting a room affect our insurance?
    Is there specific insurance we can get?


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Addle wrote: »
    Thanks for all the replies.

    Would renting a room affect our insurance?
    Is there specific insurance we can get?

    You can get LL insurance or just gone them a mail or call and ask for the added protection or that you are looking into renting out a room....

    I don't see it increasing premium by a huge amount.


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    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I suppose it depends on our policy whether we have to inform the insurer or not.
    Will we bring trouble on ourselves if I ring them and ask?


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    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Addle wrote: »
    I suppose it depends on our policy whether we have to inform the insurer or not.
    Will we bring trouble on ourselves if I ring them and ask?

    Not if it's just a question....

    Inquiry isn't going to be an issue it's if say there was a clause and something happens and it's investigated and found you didn't inform if you were meant to....


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    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Thanks again.

    We could do with the money and each will be away from the house at different times, but I’m nervous about it all.

    Just afraid someone will ruin our lovely home!


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    TSQ
    Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭TSQ


    Addle wrote: »
    I suppose it depends on our policy whether we have to inform the insurer or not.
    Will we bring trouble on ourselves if I ring them and ask?

    Some domestic policies allow yp to 2 paying guests. Check the policy t&c’s.


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