2020 Executive Officer Civil Service

UpBack1234 · 28-09-2020 11:46am

gestappo wrote: »

€3 extra in my wage on Friday coming!

Can't wait to get my mitts on all that sweet cash :cool:

mdwexford · 28-09-2020 1:22pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

The department I starting in is court services. Anyone know much about what kind of work that mite entail or have ever worked there.

You will probably be a Court clerk. Involves going to Court and calling the list. You will mark results of what happens and possibly result the Courts as well.

Interesting work and very busy.

westhamlady · 28-09-2020 4:30pm

Emailed PAS , results out in the coming weeks was what they said , very vague I thought

Aleece2020 · 28-09-2020 5:21pm

westhamlady wrote: »

Emailed PAS , results out in the coming weeks was what they said , very vague I thought

About as vague as the test questions were then.

TheJet · 28-09-2020 7:24pm

mdwexford wrote: »

You will probably be a Court clerk. Involves going to Court and calling the list. You will mark results of what happens and possibly result the Courts as well.

Interesting work and very busy.

It depends on what court you get assigned to. Do you know yet? If it’s Circuit and District your duties would involve the above. It can be hard starting off. There is a lot to take in. You will need to pay close attention and be very accurate.

Btw stenographers are not as plentiful as they used to. Court sessions are recorded digitally there days.

Dublintigger · 28-09-2020 8:53pm

TheJet wrote: »

It depends on what court you get assigned to. Do you know yet? If it’s Circuit and District your duties would involve the above. It can be hard starting off. There is a lot to take in. You will need to pay close attention and be very accurate.

Btw stenographers are not as plentiful as they used to. Court sessions are recorded digitally there days.

Wouldn't mind working in the Courts - it sounds interesting

flazio · 28-09-2020 8:59pm

I am reflecting on what I said this morning and I feel I need to make a better apology.
It was wrong for me to go grammar nazi.
I wish you the best in your new position and I'm confident you'll give it your all.

Mikefitzs · 28-09-2020 9:08pm

You could be dealing with warrants, fines, summons. There's lots to do in the courts, always a busy place.

Nekarsulm · 28-09-2020 9:19pm

Mikefitzs wrote: »

You could be dealing with warrants, fines, summons. There's lots to do in the courts, always a busy place.

I suppose you would have to go through the "special vetting" for the Courts, even as an EO.
That's 14 weeks more waiting, even after you get told you have landed a job....

fionnr01 · 28-09-2020 9:49pm

mdwexford wrote: »

You will probably be a Court clerk. Involves going to Court and calling the list. You will mark results of what happens and possibly result the Courts as well.

Interesting work and very busy.[/quote
That sounds great is that EO level?

TheJet · 28-09-2020 10:11pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I suppose you would have to go through the "special vetting" for the Courts, even as an EO.
That's 14 weeks more waiting, even after you get told you have landed a job....

I think they will be able to take up the post once they have cleared first round of vetting but contract will be subject to them passing the “special vetting”. It shouldn’t take as long as the initial vetting

Nekarsulm · 28-09-2020 11:14pm

TheJet wrote: »

I think they will be able to take up the post once they have cleared first round of vetting but contract will be subject to them passing the “special vetting”. It shouldn’t take as long as the initial vetting

Dunno, for a CO position the initial vetting ( like you'd do if getting a voluntary job coaching kids, etc) is about 3 weeks.
The "Special Vetting" for any job to do with Justice, Gardai, Customs etc, is much more thorough.
Doubt you'd be allowed start before it's completed.

mdwexford · 28-09-2020 11:23pm

fionnr01 wrote: »

mdwexford wrote: »

You will probably be a Court clerk. Involves going to Court and calling the list. You will mark results of what happens and possibly result the Courts as well.

Interesting work and very busy.

That sounds great is that EO level?

It is.

Have to be at minimum EO level to be a clerk.

Bobby2004 · 29-09-2020 4:08pm

TheJet wrote: »

It depends on what court you get assigned to. Do you know yet? If it’s Circuit and District your duties would involve the above. It can be hard starting off. There is a lot to take in. You will need to pay close attention and be very accurate.

Btw stenographers are not as plentiful as they used to. Court sessions are recorded digitally there days.

Mullingar court office is all that I know so far. Contract very basic. Does not mention what sort of work is involved. Waiting for an email on start time and who is to oversee my training.

doc22 · 29-09-2020 4:27pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

Mullingar court office is all that I know so far. Contract very basic. Does not mention what sort of work is involved. Waiting for an email on start time and who is to oversee my training.

No WFH for you so:(

job seeker · 29-09-2020 4:30pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

Mullingar court office is all that I know so far. Contract very basic. Does not mention what sort of work is involved. Waiting for an email on start time and who is to oversee my training.

The very best of luck in your new role Bobby! It sounds like a fantastic opportunity!

redmgar · 29-09-2020 4:34pm

TheJet wrote: »

I think they will be able to take up the post once they have cleared first round of vetting but contract will be subject to them passing the “special vetting”. It shouldn’t take as long as the initial vetting

No you have to complete the full vetting before you start, its between 12-16 weeks.

Bobby2004 · 29-09-2020 4:57pm

redmgar wrote: »

No you have to complete the full vetting before you start, its between 12-16 weeks.

I'm suppose to start 5th of October even though i'm currently going through my second Gardai clearance!

Bobby2004 · 29-09-2020 4:59pm

doc22 wrote: »

No WFH for you so:(

I know but was not going to turn it down. My wife works in same town so hopefully our hrs match up so can commute together.

Nekarsulm · 29-09-2020 5:01pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

I'm suppose to start 5th of October even though i'm currently going through my second Gardai clearance!

Depends how busy the Chief Superintendent of your district is, I suppose, it might be done in time.
Hopefully you've never attended any dissident funerals/parades or have any relatives dating dodgy characters.
Or any old motoring offences/court appearances...
Be a fascinating job though, all forms of life will pass before you...
Best of luck!

Dublintigger · 29-09-2020 5:42pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

Mullingar court office is all that I know so far. Contract very basic. Does not mention what sort of work is involved. Waiting for an email on start time and who is to oversee my training.

Congratulations Bobby - good luck in your new job.

TheJet · 29-09-2020 5:54pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

Mullingar court office is all that I know so far. Contract very basic. Does not mention what sort of work is involved. Waiting for an email on start time and who is to oversee my training.

Best of Luck.

Samuel T. Cogley · 29-09-2020 7:08pm

Bobby2004 wrote: »

I'm suppose to start 5th of October even though i'm currently going through my second Gardai clearance!

Internal transfers have become available in AGS for a couple of units looking for, wait for it... Additional vetting on top of the additional vetting which is on top of the normal vetting.

I suspect it involves rubber gloves and a torch.

job seeker · 29-09-2020 7:22pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Internal transfers have become available in AGS for a couple of units looking for, wait for it... Additional vetting on top of the additional vetting which is on top of the normal vetting.

I suspect it involves rubber gloves and a torch.

Is that Forensics?

Samuel T. Cogley · 29-09-2020 7:25pm

job seeker wrote: »

Is that Forensics?

Anti Corruption Unit.

The rubber gloves etc was in reference to the vetting :pac:

job seeker · 29-09-2020 7:31pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Anti Corruption Unit.

The rubber gloves etc was in reference to the vetting :pac:

Ah okay, I took you up totally wrong! My mistake!

Pamelabeasley · 01-10-2020 12:29pm

Hi guys does anyone know if there are ever part time EO roles offered from a panel or are they all full time? Would I be right in thinking that you would have to apply for job share or shorter working week to be on less hours?

jules86 · 01-10-2020 1:01pm

Pamelabeasley wrote: »

Hi guys does anyone know if there are ever part time EO roles offered from a panel or are they all full time? Would I be right in thinking that you would have to apply for job share or shorter working week to be on less hours?

I've only ever heard of full-time. Hse campaigns sometime have part time roles. You would probably have to do your years probation first before you would be eligible then it would depend on your department/local HR. I've heard of people waiting years for job sharing.

redmgar · 01-10-2020 1:02pm

jules86 wrote: »

I've only ever heard of full-time. Hse campaigns sometime have part time roles. You would probably have to do your years probation first before you would be eligible then it would depend on your department/local HR. I've heard of people waiting years for job sharing.

You would need to get in on the full time panel and then do a year or so and then request to go part time, if you are lucky it may be granted but its not a given.

Madelyn · 02-10-2020 12:08pm

I cannot believe they sent out a survey today... Though it was our results..

gestappo · 02-10-2020 12:10pm

Madelyn wrote: »

I cannot believe they sent out a survey today... Though it was our results..

Too early in the day. They'd release them from 16.30 onwards on a Friday

jules86 · 02-10-2020 12:11pm

Madelyn wrote: »

I cannot believe they sent out a survey today... Though it was our results..

I was going to post earlier that we might get the results today. Can't believe it, I'm sure I ticked a no survey box as got excited about the message bef

gestappo · 02-10-2020 12:11pm

The survey asked if you were satisfied with the practice assessments for Stage 1B etc and how satisfied you were with the assessments. Needless to say I was not satisfied.

OliverAngler · 02-10-2020 12:12pm

Madelyn wrote: »

I cannot believe they sent out a survey today... Though it was our results..

some sick minds in PAS

Eod100 · 02-10-2020 12:12pm

Madelyn wrote: »

I cannot believe they sent out a survey today... Though it was our results..

Same. I'll be giving feedback anyway. Don't remember a survey from other competitions
Guess it's because it's a new system

gestappo · 02-10-2020 12:14pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Same. I'll be giving feedback anyway. Don't remember a survey from other competitions
Guess it's because it's a new system

They had it in previous comps

acbar · 02-10-2020 12:15pm

To evade any heart attacks, I just received message from public jobs with contains details of a survey following completion of stage 1 of the above competition,
Fingers still crossed

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 02-10-2020 12:17pm

Glad I checked in here first, I was too nervous to open the message

OliverAngler · 02-10-2020 12:21pm

my survey didn't complete and when i went back in on the link to give out a bit about the tests it said you have completed this survey.

So along with being dissatisfied with everything else im also dissatisfied with the survery :-)

Maybe if everybody gives negative feedback they may change the recruitment tests.

More suitable tests for EO's like how many cups of tea you can drink before lunch.

gestappo · 02-10-2020 12:25pm

OliverAngler wrote: »

my survey didn't complete and when i went back in on the link to give out a bit about the tests it said you have completed this survey.

So along with being dissatisfied with everything else im also dissatisfied with the survery :-)

Maybe if everybody gives negative feedback they may change the recruitment tests.

More suitable tests for EO's like how many cups of tea you can drink before lunch.

Our dept is incredibly busy, barely get a chance to have a pee break never mind all those cups of tea you're hoping for!

Samuel T. Cogley · 02-10-2020 12:35pm

They pulled that **** with surveys AGAIN?!

TheJet · 02-10-2020 12:35pm

Madelyn wrote: »

I cannot believe they sent out a survey today... Though it was our results..

I know. Would they just not put us out of our misery.

jules86 · 02-10-2020 12:36pm

gestappo wrote: »

The survey asked if you were satisfied with the practice assessments for Stage 1B etc and how satisfied you were with the assessments. Needless to say I was not satisfied.

Surely it would depend on your results though. Now your not satisfied but if your resilys show you scored highly that could change to very satisfied..

insert name here 123 · 02-10-2020 12:40pm

I would assume if and when the results are issued, the text messages would have something like below included.

Anything else is just survey or feedback....

"Please log onto your profile on https://www.publicjobs.ie/ to view a new message"

"Message relates to: Executive Officer in the Civil Service 2020- Stage 1b"

Madelyn · 02-10-2020 12:40pm

jules86 wrote: »

Surely it would depend on your results though. Now your not satisfied but if your resilys show you scored highly that could change to very satisfied..

Not necessarily because the survey is about all candidate's. While I thinks some aspects of it are fair I feel others are not. I definitely think the maths is unfair to alot of candidates.

gestappo · 02-10-2020 1:12pm

jules86 wrote: »

Surely it would depend on your results though. Now your not satisfied but if your resilys show you scored highly that could change to very satisfied..

No. I did not like the lack of practice assessments. Those 6 practice tests we were given access to did not allude to what we actually sat so I am not satisfied.

Dublintigger · 02-10-2020 1:31pm

I have just done the survey and I think, like most of the folks on here, I totally agreed that the numerical assessment was unfair and not relevant to the position of EO’s.

I wanted to say more but survey finished… I wish I could have got the opportunity to say that the numerical was more relevant to a more senior role and aimed at a candidate with a strong financial background.

I also wanted to say that the practice test were totally different to the actually tests.

Hope they pick that up from the survey – not hopeful though.

Madelyn · 02-10-2020 1:38pm

The six practice maths we got were foundation maths and the real test was Honours Maths !!!!

This competition is too long, after this is the Etray and then interview.

MuchZeus · 02-10-2020 2:04pm

i haven’t received a message about the survey, yet on my application form i indicated that i would like to be contacted about completing a survey in the future...

are they doing batch emails, or is this a sign i wasn’t successful in the tests?

job seeker · 02-10-2020 2:16pm

Madelyn wrote: »

Not necessarily because the survey is about all candidate's. While I thinks some aspects of it are fair I feel others are not. I definitely think the maths is unfair to alot of candidates.

Agree with the maths! You are required to hold or be working towards a level 6. So if a candidate is a number of years out of school, that would leave them at a huge disadvantage as opposed to somebody who may have completed maths (ordinary/higher lever) in the leaving cert 2 years ago..

For me now, I have always found maths difficult. I completed the leaving cert applied program (no maths) and two fetec level 6 courses and then achieved a 2.2 level 8 degree without doing any maths what so ever!!

2020 Executive Officer Civil Service

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