Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2017

Sin City · 08-10-2015 10:15pm

Sin City wrote: »

Doesn't matter that's the beauty of football. The games aren't played on paper. Anything can happen on the night. Not saying well beat Germany but I hope to give them a game. As for Poland they were lucky to escape Dublin with a point

Delighted. We've beaten a higher ranked team

COYBIG

obezyana · 08-10-2015 10:29pm

The comments on the de bild website are not so nice about some of the German players like Reus, OziL, Hummels, Schurrle, Gundogan

its great reading.

Salmon · 08-10-2015 10:35pm

We must be in a good position to qualify automatically as the best placed third team, anyone know any details on this?

TheCitizen · 08-10-2015 10:39pm

Blow out tonight. Beat Poland on Sunday.

Kerrydude1981 · 08-10-2015 10:40pm

Salmon wrote: »

We must be in a good position to qualify automatically as the best placed third team, anyone know any details on this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:UEFA_Euro_2016_qualification_(3rd_place)

Hercule Poirot · 08-10-2015 11:32pm

Just checked the tables there, if Ukraine and Hungary lose we are the best placed third team? Is that right?

Idbatterim · 08-10-2015 11:56pm

After that euphoria. I forgot about the e1750 I will win if we qualify. F**k the money v us qualifying though!

Kenjataimu · 09-10-2015 12:03am

At least now we can stop talking about not beating a higher seeded nation than us.

Nalz · 09-10-2015 12:29am

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Just checked the tables there, if Ukraine and Hungary lose we are the best placed third team? Is that right?

Nope. You deduct the points gotten from the bottom team in your group.

We can either qualify by coming 1st or 2nd in our group, or via the playoffs. It's impossible for us to be the best of the 3rds

Nunu · 09-10-2015 12:32am

Hungary have 15pts by that table and we have 12pts. So by that we can't be best placed 3rd...13 pts if we draw.

Pierce_1991 · 09-10-2015 1:08am

Why are the majority of comments about being highest ranked 3rd placed team!? We just beat the world champions!! What a night! We held on in the first half but to be fair we played well second half. I felt we played well throughout when we got the ball to feet in the German half, hopefully we can do something similar against Poland. Well done Shane Long, huge goal against Poland and even bigger one tonight. Brilliant!

Nalz · 09-10-2015 1:15am

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Why are the majority of comments about being highest ranked 3rd placed team!? We just beat the world champions!!

Because we are third in our group and some people thought we could qualify via the best 3rd place. We can't.

Pierce_1991 · 09-10-2015 1:43am

Nalz wrote: »

Because we are third in our group and some people thought we could qualify via the best 3rd place. We can't.

I was just amazed clicking in here after midnight and seeing there had been about 8 comments since full time, half of which were about best third placed team. We best the best team in the world! Where's the outrageous calls of 'I reckoned it would happen' and the 'Shane Long should have started' comments??

newballsplease · 09-10-2015 1:45am

I gonna assume(sorry) we get a playoff.... whos our best chance against. Hopefully not Sweeden or Croatia.
Id hope for Israel or Slovenia.

Assuming we dont beat Poland or draw 2-2/3-3 etc

Nalz · 09-10-2015 2:04am

Was looking up the team that played in the 1-6 defeat.

Keith Fahey, Darren O Dear and Cox started

Andy Keogh came on and scored. He now plays in the Thailand league

massdebater · 09-10-2015 3:22am

I wasn't able to watch the game due to the time difference: why was Given substituted? From all accounts Randalf was great. Will Given be back for the Poland game or the playoffs? Hoping not. Also, when are the playoffs due to be played?

ardinn · 09-10-2015 3:30am

Problem with his knee it looked like but I dont know the details.

Randalph made a few saves but nothing wild went his way. Expected saves tbf.

Lamper.sffc · 09-10-2015 3:41am

ardinn wrote: »

Problem with his knee it looked like but I dont know the details.

Randalph made a few saves but nothing wild went his way. Expected saves tbf.

And an assist

Deise_2012 · 09-10-2015 8:17am

Lads, fantastic performance delighted with the players...... you'd imagine that Shane Long will be starting Sunday? I honestly can't believe he didn't start last night, I mean Daryl Murphy yeah he's a good Championship player, but the amount of times Hummels and Boateng walked the ball out of defense, we were lucky that it was 0-0 by the time Long arrived. And this is the 3rd game he's after getting us a result, Scotland and Poland at home too....I don't know what he did wrong to O'Neill but I find it baffling how he's behind Robbie, Walters and Murphy....I'm saying it with 3 months

dixiefly · 09-10-2015 8:25am

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Lads, fantastic performance delighted with the players...... you'd imagine that Shane Long will be starting Sunday? I honestly can't believe he didn't start last night, I mean Daryl Murphy yeah he's a good Championship player, but the amount of times Hummels and Boateng walked the ball out of defense, we were lucky that it was 0-0 by the time Long arrived. And this is the 3rd game he's after getting us a result, Scotland and Poland at home too....I don't know what he did wrong to O'Neill but I find it baffling how he's behind Robbie, Walters and Murphy....I'm saying it with 3 months

I agree - O'Neill was extremely lucky last night with regards to his (non) selection of Long.

Then again what is the saying about wanting a lucky General to go into battle with? So overall benefit of the doubt to O'Neill and fantastic result overall.

stiffler123 · 09-10-2015 8:43am

What a result, victory over the world champions. It really takes the pressure off the team too. We can go for it now vs Poland without worrying about the Scots.

JustTheOne · 09-10-2015 8:46am

Training cancelled today, surely they weren't not on the lash!?

Fr Tod Umptious · 09-10-2015 9:01am

JustTheOne wrote: »

Training cancelled today, surely they weren't not on the lash!?

No but they did put in a massive effort physically so a rest day or a light work day may be a good idea.

Kerrydude1981 · 09-10-2015 9:29am

Remember this from 91

Be nice to pay them back on Sunday

Mantis Toboggan · 09-10-2015 9:30am

Unreal stuff last night, atmosphere was like nothing I witnessed before. I thought long should have started but it's great to have him come off the bench late in the game, he's an impact player. Hope that's the last we see of Shay, great servant over the years but it's time to move on. Walters was fantastic and but Mccarthy was my man of the match, best we've seen from him in a Irish jersey. COYBIG

dr.kenneth noisewater · 09-10-2015 10:06am

Great result, best atmosphere of an Irish soccer game I was at. Long has to start Sunday, Murphy looked so slow and laboured. Cyrus was great along with McCarthy, Hendrick and Wes in midfield. What a night!

Fr Tod Umptious · 09-10-2015 10:09am

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Remember this from 91

Be nice to pay them back on Sunday

Finished 3-3 didn't it ?

So even that will do nicely on Sunday

Kerrydude1981 · 09-10-2015 10:11am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Finished 3-3 didn't it ?

So even that will do nicely on Sunday

Ya,we were up 3-1 and drew level late in the game,il take that Sunday

Hulk Hands · 09-10-2015 10:13am

newballsplease wrote: »

I gonna assume(sorry) we get a playoff.... whos our best chance against. Hopefully not Sweeden or Croatia.
Id hope for Israel or Slovenia.

Assuming we dont beat Poland or draw 2-2/3-3 etc

We're gonna be seeded. So Turkey, Israel, Slovenia etc by the looks of things.

Irishcrx · 09-10-2015 10:22am

dixiefly wrote: »

I agree - O'Neill was extremely lucky last night with regards to his (non) selection of Long.

Then again what is the saying about wanting a lucky General to go into battle with? So overall benefit of the doubt to O'Neill and fantastic result overall.

Disagree , Long has speed... the type of speed you want to come off the bench and get on the shoulder of a tiring and already slow Hummels...to you know...maybe nick a goal on the break?

Hulk Hands · 09-10-2015 10:25am

Irishcrx wrote: »

Disagree , Long has speed... the type of speed you want to come off the bench and get on the shoulder of a tiring and already slow Hummels...to you know...maybe nick a goal on the break?

Don't agree with this type of thinking in the slightest. Hummels is hardly known for his lack of fitness and fading out of games. If Longs pace can cause a problem for 20 mins, then it can cause a greater problem for 90. Hes probably in the top 3 players we have in the squad and should be a regular starter

Irishcrx · 09-10-2015 10:47am

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Don't agree with this type of thinking in the slightest. Hummels is hardly known for his lack of fitness and fading out of games. If Longs pace can cause a problem for 20 mins, then it can cause a greater problem for 90. Hes probably in the top 3 players we have in the squad and should be a regular starter

But it won't be as effective , Long will tire as well. Coming off the bench he has that advantage for 15-20 minutes of being fresh.

Look , I think in most games he should start but in certain games you have to make tactical decisions. Also the longer the game went on , Germany began pressing higher which leaves more space in behind , this is exactly how we scored so on this occasion the arguement is void, it worked and we won and that's all that matters.

TheCitizen · 09-10-2015 10:47am

Irishcrx wrote: »

Disagree , Long has speed... the type of speed you want to come off the bench and get on the shoulder of a tiring and already slow Hummels...to you know...maybe nick a goal on the break?

No. I'm a big supporter of MON and always believed he will get us there in the end. But like any manager he does get things wrong some times. That goal and the way it came was by accident not by design. Murphy probably would've missed that chance if he was on the end of it.

Picking Murphy over Long made no sense and he did get lucky that Long was on the end of that chance and not Murphy. Shane Long should be starting up front for Ireland, I don't get the reluctance from MON to start him in Ireland games, maybe that will change now.

jmayo · 09-10-2015 11:09am

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

Unreal stuff last night, atmosphere was like nothing I witnessed before. I thought long should have started but it's great to have him come off the bench late in the game, he's an impact player. Hope that's the last we see of Shay, great servant over the years but it's time to move on. Walters was fantastic and but Mccarthy was my man of the match, best we've seen from him in a Irish jersey. COYBIG

Have to agree about Walters. He drove Hummels mad.
The guy never stops and is a true pro as very evident at his club.

Cyrus Christie played well for the amount of experience he has had and got stuck in.
Keogh was a bit nervy early on and was just hoofing the ball away, but seemed to settle down a bit and made some vital interceptions.
O'Shea looked assured and not like a Sunderland player thanfully.
Holohan played well and played better than some of opposites numbers with the big reputations.
Saying that his back heel could have cost us, you shouldn't do that in your own box.
Brady was second to Holohan when it came to keeping the ball.
I would have given Ward a lot of stick over the years, but he did damm well and especially since he hasn't had game time in a long time.
This was probably McCathy's best display in an Irish shirt.
Long did what he does best and blew the defenders away with his speed onto the ball and his shot was world class to beat one of the best keepers in the world.
Speaking of keepers fair dues to Randolph.
I do feel sorry for Forde though.

The Germans looked like a shadow of the team that won the WC, but there are still a team full of players from some of the biggest clubs in Europe.

bren2001 · 09-10-2015 11:13am

TheCitizen wrote: »

No. I'm a big supporter of MON and always believed he will get us there in the end. But like any manager he does get things wrong some times. That goal and the way it came was by accident not by design. Murphy probably would've missed that chance if he was on the end of it.

Picking Murphy over Long made no sense and he did get lucky that Long was on the end of that chance and not Murphy. Shane Long should be starting up front for Ireland, I don't get the reluctance from MON to start him in Ireland games, maybe that will change now.

Murphy would not have created that chance to score. He didn't have the pace to get away from the back 4 (regardless if he started or came off the bench). Long however had fresh legs and is quite pacey. I dunno if he would have had the legs to run that after 70 minutes on the pitch.

Picking Murphy made sense if it meant springing Long off the bench in the manner they did. If anything, this means Long is less likely to start under MoN as he is clearly a very useful impact sub.

Hulk Hands · 09-10-2015 11:14am

Irishcrx wrote: »

But it won't be as effective , Long will tire as well. Coming off the bench he has that advantage for 15-20 minutes of being fresh.

Look , I think in most games he should start but in certain games you have to make tactical decisions. Also the longer the game went on , Germany began pressing higher which leaves more space in behind , this is exactly how we scored so on this occasion the arguement is void, it worked and we won and that's all that matters.

Why is the argument void? For instance when the same happened vs Scotland and we could only draw, does that make the other side right? Murphys a good player but its hard to say hes more effective than Long. Just because it happened to work last night doesnt make it right. Few if any top managers in history have ever kept their top players on the bench regularly to play the role of impact subs

homerjay2005 · 09-10-2015 11:33am

if we ever doubted what the number 1 team in the country was, that was answered last night.

the country is bouncing today, some buzz around the place. no other team can lift the nation like the soccer team.

death1234567 · 09-10-2015 11:44am

It's a real shame that Poland got a late equaliser. Going there needing just a draw to qualify would have been great. As it stands I see us ending up in a playoff with a 50-50* chance of qualifying.

*The chances of drawing a team better than us IMO.

Mantis Toboggan · 09-10-2015 11:48am

Big fan of long but he's the ideal sub, pace, energy, Murphy is not an impact player therefore if he doesn't start then he's redundant. It's a tricky one for O'Neill, Murphy isn't good enough imo, pity we don't have two Johnny Walters

ShooterSF · 09-10-2015 12:03pm

How is it an impact substitution though? How exactly were the German centre backs tired? From straining their vision watching the ball around the Irish box all night? Or running up and down for all those corners?

Yes Long may have been too tired to do that in the 70th minute if he started. But if he started maybe that ball is on after 20 and for me he'd still have the beating of them..

Wacker The Attacker · 09-10-2015 12:07pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if we ever doubted what the number 1 team in the country was, that was answered last night.

the country is bouncing today, some buzz around the place. no other team can lift the nation like the soccer team.

The rugger buggers will have to win the world cup to beat that.

Banjaxed82 · 09-10-2015 12:07pm

death1234567 wrote: »

It's a real shame that Poland got a late equaliser. Going there needing just a draw to qualify would have been great. As it stands I see us ending up in a playoff with a 50-50* chance of qualifying.

*The chances of drawing a team better than us IMO.

I'm not sure about this. Us only requiring a draw would have worried me and the potential approach we would have taken.

Sunday will make for a great match. We genuinely can just go for it, we nothing to lose. If we get to the magical 2 goal mark, they will have to beat us regardless. I'm liking that.

gav86 · 09-10-2015 12:17pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if we ever doubted what the number 1 team in the country was, that was answered last night.

the country is bouncing today, some buzz around the place. no other team can lift the nation like the soccer team.

I think if Ireland beat New Zealand in the same fashion as we beat the world champions last night then the country would be bouncing as well.
Taking nothing away from the team last night - quality to see both teams doing well.

Fr Tod Umptious · 09-10-2015 12:37pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if we ever doubted what the number 1 team in the country was, that was answered last night.

the country is bouncing today, some buzz around the place. no other team can lift the nation like the soccer team.

Your dead right.
Since the Stan era we have occasionally heard that the rugby team are more popular than the soccer team.

That's BS, last night and more importantly next Sunday will prove that.

The only sport that can ever determine the nation mood is soccer, never rugby.

Mantis Toboggan · 09-10-2015 1:03pm

If the rugby boys beat the world champions in the world cup quarter final it will be similar in fairness.

PTH2009 · 09-10-2015 1:08pm

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

If the rugby boys beat the world champions in the world cup quarter final it will be similar in fairness.

Almost/should of beat them in november 2013 in dublin.

have a bad feeling we will draw with poland 1-1 and get drawn with Holland or Sweden in the playoffs.

Would love to beat Poland (there not that great bar 1 or 2 players and we have a good record against them).

Sunday is going to be a good/bad/ok day for irish sport with 2 important matches (rugby and soccer).

Corholio · 09-10-2015 2:35pm

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

If the rugby boys beat the world champions in the world cup quarter final it will be similar in fairness.

Not really in fairness. The rugby team have a higher standing in a game where there is a lot, lot less better teams ahead of them.

Nalz · 09-10-2015 3:07pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if we ever doubted what the number 1 team in the country was, that was answered last night.

the country is bouncing today, some buzz around the place. no other team can lift the nation like the soccer team.

+1

It's a tough one, can't exactly put my finger on it but even when we won the 6 nations the buzz just wasn't the same... it was as if in certain quarters (I stress that as the hardcore ruggerboys will jump at me otherwise) were almost faking their excitement and exaggerated celebrations. Definitely a more relaxed celebratory vibe about it. It was almost as if it wasn't pc or family orientated enough to take your top off and shout things such as "fúck yes Long you fúcking beaut" "get the fúck in" about the rugby players\team.

I'm sure some did, and as much as I don't get the rugby buzz I hope the team does really well. Imagine the buzz if both teams win on Sunday!!

dr.kenneth noisewater · 09-10-2015 3:41pm

Nalz wrote: »

+1

It's a tough one, can't exactly put my finger on it but even when we won the 6 nations the buzz just wasn't the same... it was as if in certain quarters (I stress that as the hardcore ruggerboys will jump at me otherwise) were almost faking their excitement and exaggerated celebrations. Definitely a more relaxed celebratory vibe about it. It was almost as if it wasn't pc or family orientated enough to take your top off and shout things such as "fúck yes Long you fúcking beaut" "get the fúck in" about the rugby players\team.

I'm sure some did, and as much as I don't get the rugby buzz I hope the team does really well. Imagine the buzz if both teams win on Sunday!!

Think a big part of it is that most people have played soccer at some level including astro or in school so they can understand it better

homerjay2005 · 09-10-2015 3:42pm

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

If the rugby boys beat the world champions in the world cup quarter final it will be similar in fairness.

hmmm dunno, while theres i am sure many people who live and breath Rugby like we do with soccer, theres 100s of 1000s of people in ireland with absolutely zero connection to the sport.

Rugby has more fair-weather supporters than any other sport in this country.

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Think a big part of it is that most people have played soccer at some level including astro or in school so they can understand it better

everybody has a local soccer team at some level, kids are playing it all over Ireland. Rugby really is only big in 2 or 3 areas and then the rest of the country join in "supporting" because its popular and the team is winning. alot of people have no interest in the game at all, just support the occasion.

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