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06-02-2019, 11:11   #166
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It will come to a point eventually where public traffic will be banned from cities and towns. Irish cities and towns were not designed to cater for such volumes of traffic.

In Berlin for example deliveries are made to a depot on the outskirts of the city and then delivered by a smaller unit to the stores! There's forward thinking for you!
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06-02-2019, 11:22   #167
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In Berlin for example deliveries are made to a depot on the outskirts of the city and then delivered by a smaller unit to the stores! There's forward thinking for you!
UPS are doing this in Dublin to an extent. They’re parking containers just outside the city centre and dispatching deliveries from them using electric assisted pedal mini van type contraptions.
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06-02-2019, 11:32   #168
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Peak is woeful now in Dublin. I just avoid whole areas at certain times. Going some places and appointments are just no longer an option..
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06-02-2019, 12:52   #169
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And then people complain about the punctuality of public transport!
The reasons are out there but the majority are not down to public transport!
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06-02-2019, 14:23   #170
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Yes.

So the kids should be WALKING not using wheely things.

This isn't two-wheels good, four wheels bad.

It's don't wheel when walking will do the trick.

Walking also includes the kids whose parents cannot afford bikes. Its kinder to everyone and needs less supervision. What's not to love.
Clearly you love walking - good for you. No offence, but who are you to say that other people and their kids should be walking not cycling ?

At the end of the day, they're all healthy activities which is what is needed to reverse the lazy obese trend in our society.

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06-02-2019, 15:17   #171
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Just have read this thread and I have to say it is one of the most petty, mean spirited threads I have read in a long time.

Getting young kids out on bikes in a safe, supervised environment, what's not to like?

Having 60 kids cycling to school is a complete win win situation. You are taking cars off the road so there is less congestion and pollution. The kids are getting fitter, learning road craft which will make them safer cyclists and safer drivers in the future. Physical exercise also increases physical and mental health.

Yet many of this thread want to stop the kids from cycling. Bizarre

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06-02-2019, 17:16   #172
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Actually they want to stop everyone from cycling. Makes it harder to create traffic jams. Without cyclists it would be much easier.
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06-02-2019, 18:20   #173
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I support in this order:
1 Walking
2 using shared, professionally driven, vehicles
3 using individual vehicles with amateur, but at least licensed, drivers
4 using individual vehicles with amateur unlicensed drivers.

I do not at all support childres under age 12(*) operating vehicles on the road, no matter how they are powered.


(*) oveaseas I'd have said 10, but 12 is the RSA advice in this country.

You read like claddaghswan on twitter? #walkingFirst
https://twitter.com/claddaghswan
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06-02-2019, 18:59   #174
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Walking first is all well and good for short journeys for people with time, but not for travelling any distance. Especially for the little legs of kids whose parents have abandoned them which strangers while they drive to work. Travelling by bike can make journeys much faster and people including kids can travel much further. So #screwWalkingFirstUnlessItIsPratical.
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11-02-2019, 20:23   #175
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an example, were one needed, that students could benefit from this:

Some teens’ cardiovascular health akin to that of 60-year-olds
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/educ...olds-1.3788969
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11-02-2019, 20:56   #176
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an example, were one needed, that students could benefit from this:

Some teens’ cardiovascular health akin to that of 60-year-olds
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/educ...olds-1.3788969
Spokesperson from Irish Heart Foundation discussed it on the Hard Shoulder this evening and Ivan as usual slagged her re the Nanny State. He seems to think a serious non jokey discussion would bore his listeners
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