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Pits full of thousands of dead refugees found in Malaysia

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    #2
    old_aussie
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    Since the beginning of May, Thai authorities have arrested 46 people, many of them local politicians and officials, on human trafficking charges and have issued warrants for the arrest of 77 more suspects.

    Is this the quickest growing business in the world today.

    Where were all these people being trafficked going?


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    [Deleted User]
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    Ugh.


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    Mena
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    These are the illegal economic migrants right? Right...!?


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    kylith
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    Those poor, poor people. They thought they were going to a better life :(


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    Yurt2
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    The Malaysian gov has largely washed their hands of this problem. Lots of destitute Burmese wandering around KL without documentation and nowhere to go. Got talking to a Burmese refugee one night after he tapped me up for change, he was promised safe passage to a Western country by traffickers and was just dumped in a Malaysian camp, who don't give a fiddlers and barely provide for basic needs. Eventually made his way to KL but had no access to money and no shelter and his family who were trafficked separately were missing. The thing is Malaysia is relatively wealthy and could deal with the problem if they chose to, but there's nobody holding their feet to the fire.


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    jank
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    I think it goes to show how big a problem the world has, this is not an Australian problem or a European problem or an American problem or a Malaysian problem. Illegal Human trafficking is a world problem. To stop it follow the Australian model. It has been proven to work. Lose policy and aimless well intentioned compassion does more harm then good in the long run where thugs and criminals prey on their victims. Use the compassion in order to build up the country they are migrating from, with strong institutions an open economy where people can invest and get jobs.


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    fleet_admiral
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    Where is Liam Neeson in all this


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    Menas
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    It would turn your stomach the way people get treated, still.
    Its nothing new - right, brutality has been happening since the first cave man used a club, but you would like to think that this brutality is a thing of the past.


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    Streetwalker
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    One day a higher power will end us all and press reset. It's long overdue tbh.


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    Egginacup
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    Streetwalker wrote: »
    One day a higher power will end us all and press reset. It's long overdue tbh.

    I don't see the World Bank and the IMF which keep these countries in grinding poverty "resetting" the button anytime soon, if they're the higher powers you're thinking of.


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    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Egginacup wrote: »
    I don't see the World Bank and the IMF which keep these countries in grinding poverty "resetting" the button anytime soon, if they're the higher powers you're thinking of.

    Most poor countries are poor because of atrocious governance, corruption and weak institutions. Spend a bit of time in Africa and watch the whole self defeating circus in action.

    This is not to exonerate the World Bank or IMF, but at least they try to do a decent job, even if they make policy howlers and many ensconced in those institutions are in thrall to neo-liberal economic theory.


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    blatantrereg
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    Mena wrote: »
    These are the illegal economic migrants right? Right...!?
    Mainly Rohingyas from Burma, who are persecuted and experience human rights abuses. Some economic migrants from Bangladesh also.


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    jank
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    Egginacup wrote: »
    I don't see the World Bank and the IMF which keep these countries in grinding poverty "resetting" the button anytime soon, if they're the higher powers you're thinking of.

    Ah 11 posts in and we have already reached the predictable 'Blame the West' argument. Not sure how much you can blame the West/the World Bank/IMF given that Burma has been in the grip of a military dictatorship for the best part of 40 years. In fact the ending of this dictatorship is one of the reasons why so many people are now trying to leave.

    The IMF, World Bank and other Western institutions is exactly what Bruma needs to set it on the right back to stability, sustainable economic growth and peace so that its citizens can look forward to building a life in their own country.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Egginacup wrote: »
    I don't see the World Bank and the IMF which keep these countries in grinding poverty "resetting" the button anytime soon, if they're the higher powers you're thinking of.

    Go read a book.


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