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The International 3

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  • #102
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    To be fair though they did kind of shut him down in the 3rd game, he got one pool hook on Gyro that won them the game pretty much and it was slightly lucky as Gyro ran in to it stupidly. Hard to believe that one big play has at least guaranteed Na'vi and extra few dolla.

    I think the biggest effect that the hooks had was that they made TF scared to start teamfights. Even when Dendi missed, TF backed off rather than taking advantage of the fact that he would be out of action for a short while. This allowed Xboct to farm up after a dreadful start, and actually be able to start to carry.

    If TF had manned up, and just started forcing teamfights more, I think they would have won. Its just typical of Chinese teams to play as passive as possible, and that's really what allowed Na'Vi to come back into the game.


  • #103
    IRL_Sinister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭IRL_Sinister


    DK vs. Orange. Game 3. What am I watching? Mind = blown


  • #104
    GO_Bear
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Na'Vi got schooled, they threw game 1 when they tped to the mid t1 tower one at a time, pub style, and got owned !


  • #105
    GO_Bear
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    Oh and, even though earlier in this thread I was rooting for Tongfu, Orange have really impressed me and I hope Mushi stomps them !


  • #106
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    alliances name is written on the trophy. unbelievable stuff. orange though, f**k yeah! my 2nd fave Asian team. cant wait for the finals. great tournament, no real surprises though


  • #107
    Hawk9433
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Hawk9433


    their name is not written on the trophy yet :) wait until grand finale


  • #108
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    GO_Bear wrote: »
    Oh and, even though earlier in this thread I was rooting for Tongfu, Orange have really impressed me and I hope Mushi stomps them !

    Can anybody not be for somebody that picks ursa in their elimination match tied 1-1 and outcarries pl? And man that second game with shadowfiend destroying dk doom, weaver, amazing.


  • #109
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Im just hoping for some rare picks tonight. Awfully bored with the usual picks last night


  • #110
    GO_Bear
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    cherryghost wrote: »
    Im just hoping for some rare picks tonight. Awfully bored with the usual picks last night

    SF , Ursa, Slardar ???

    Edit, Albeit Just orange :p

    Edit 2: Skywraith, Sand king and we actually seen wisp get through !


  • #111
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    cherryghost wrote: »
    Im just hoping for some rare picks tonight. Awfully bored with the usual picks last night

    Skywrath, sandking, ursa, slardar?

    Edit: Beaten to it :D


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  • #112
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Such an awesome game 2 by Navi to bring that back


  • #113
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    this is fun :D


  • #114
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    $400k aegis deny, on my holy god.


  • #115
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Man, that game. Orange really messed it up on that Aegis deny but that Navi comeback was ridiculous.


  • #116
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    titan18 wrote: »
    Man, that game. Orange really messed it up on that Aegis deny but that Navi comeback was ridiculous.

    The thing is the comeback was because of that deny, OD would have respawned and more then likely would have mopped out. Instead it was just a mess.


  • #117
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The thing is the comeback was because of that deny, OD would have respawned and more then likely would have mopped out. Instead it was just a mess.

    Oh, I know, but still have to credit Navi for sticking with it, and managing to land some nice black holes towards the end.


  • #118
    NeoSlicerZ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭NeoSlicerZ


    Ah, poor kyxy, he cried right when it happened.

    http://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti_pod_2/b/444218873

    3:59:30.


  • #119
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Come on na'vi! Great final so far


  • #120
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    wow...


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  • #121
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Huge Puck plays pretty much won them that last game, stopping 3 tps back was the deciding factor


  • #122
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Kinda related to the international, I bought the compendium like 4 days ago and unfortunately for me it was too late to get the mammoth bait or pretty much any of the smeevil upgrades, anyone know if there's other ways to get them?


  • #123
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Kinda related to the international, I bought the compendium like 4 days ago and unfortunately for me it was too late to get the mammoth bait or pretty much any of the smeevil upgrades, anyone know if there's other ways to get them?

    You could buy them the player sales stores, get most of anything from there. I'd wait for a week or so when people start putting them up in hordes and prices will be lower


  • #124
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Great final! Smarties for all!


  • #125
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Just watched the last two games after heading to bed after game 3 last night. What a final, that last game was just crazy


  • #126
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    S4 is easily one of the smartest and best all round players atm. I felt really happy for Loda as he has waited so long for this moment and his near constant 'ready' status on IRC pickups has finally paid off :p

    one thing though, Na'Vi banned chen-naga every game and Wisp was the problem (for both teams). I really think puppey shouldnt have kept to his guns and changed it up a bit. he banned so aggressively towards Akke & EGM that I feel he let his team down a bit with it. if he had just banned naga & wisp i feel he would be able to create a more stable draft. who is to say S4 will take the chen anyway? and if they did, hes easier to play against than wisp. and if they dont take chen, puppey is only one of the best chen players in the world :s
    very strange decisions in my eyes and that stubbornness may have just cost them $800,000. well, who knows.

    i knew alliances name was written on the cup, they just seemed to have that about them this year.


    in other news, the worst person in gaming - TotalBiscuit - is looking to get into dota 2. basically, because he has a legion of mongs that follow him from flavour of the month to flavour of the month, he feels he can weigh his massive head into dota and be a positive influence.
    he is embarrassingly bad at casting and thinks that volume = excitement, but hes gonna try and take one of the guys jobs because he has a hole in his ego that he needs filled every other month :( he is not the kind of person you want normal people seeing/listening to


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  • #127
    Hawk9433
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Hawk9433


    I agree in most stuff with BMMachine, think banning chen was biggest problem cos as u said best chen in the world is in puppey so they probably know how to cancel t so. naga was a good ban as leting it go will give them ability to kill some one easy.

    who is TotalBuiscuit?


  • #128
    Ry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭Ry


    Nice video here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08SlUCv6Mpg


  • #129
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    XBOCT more than likely a free man now after calling his entire team idiots after the finals.


  • #130
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    cherryghost wrote: »
    XBOCT more than likely a free man now after calling his entire team idiots after the finals.

    just read up there about it.
    from his VK (russian facebook) account:
    "It is unfortunate that your fate lies on a couple of useless idiots. Thanks for all the support but I don't think Na`Vi will continue with the current roster."

    xboct has been there since day one. apparently it could be to do with kuroky calling gg in game 1 too early, but in fairness that was over 10 minutes in.
    probably just drama after losing such a big game, i don't see him leaving na'vi though.
    just seen people wanting Black to replace him >< its amazing how little such a big portion of the fans actually know about the game


  • #131
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I heard he just doesn't like kuroky, game one was a disaster, no way they should have played on, it was the right move to not demoralize a team getting slaughtered. I mean what did he think could possibly happen for them to win?


    I think you under estimate black, he plays safer but also makes better mid game decisions imo. Neither of them are as good as other carries though imo (especially chinese ones who really need to change their strats), even though xboct had a good tournament.


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  • #132
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    he makes things happen for a team who's entire playstyle is about making things happen. black doesnt make things happen. hes incredibly overrated by the EU scene, excellent player but nowhere near as good as the fans think he is. Id probably take Jeyo over Black now that I think about it


  • #133
    Hawk9433
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Hawk9433


    Lads I just was watching interview from Na'Vi channel on youtube of Dendi (no english translation yet). I was really surprised of what he said. He said that there where a allot of distractions in the team, including language barrier and outside noise in the cabin, plus people where behaving not as a team. Thats not word to word but the meaning is the same. And after BMMachine comment that sounds like Kuroky is going to be gone from Na'Vi and ZeroGravity wrote on twitter that he will talk to team about everything. SO sounds rooster is going to be changed but Na'Vi wont loose such a good players like XBOST.


  • #134
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    he just wants Smile back :p


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