action toy soldier

airsoftjunkie · 23-06-2009 9:59pm #1

woooow lads i just tested the screen for action toy soldier in rosemount business park its owned buy some company called riverbank or something like that serious its great for adjusting sights improving speed or just having a laugh 10/10

Puding · 23-06-2009 10:18pm

I'm afraid this has already been mention and due to it being part of the banned retailer from boards 'main Irish airsoft' so i would expect the thread to be locked unfortunately, nice of you to give all the details without mentioning the name thought

Arcto · 24-06-2009 12:31am

Didnt you allready post this about a week and a half ago?

Jesus dude, if its commission your after get a buddy to sign up to sky :rolleyes:

Kristov · 24-06-2009 1:20pm

that was me that posted about it a couple weeks ago .
just because its in the same building as the banned retailer it has nothing to do with them id be carefull what yer saying lads about a seperate company altogether .

Puding · 24-06-2009 1:28pm

just because its in the same building as the banned retailer it has nothing to do with them id be carefully what yer saying lads about a separate company altogether .

same building same product as advertised on there website....

if there not connected then one of those company's has made a really stupid business decision

airsoftjunkie · 24-06-2009 5:10pm

lads lads lads "that retailer" has nothing to do with the arcada shooting systemits owned and run by a totally seperate companyand i think the thread should be left open and people are free to expressthere opinion they dont have to mention the "forbidden retailer" its NOTHING to do with them

Rew · 24-06-2009 5:33pm

Kristov wrote: »

that was me that posted about it a couple weeks ago .
just because its in the same building as the banned retailer it has nothing to do with them id be carefull what yer saying lads about a seperate company altogether .

I'm confused hence the thread is still open. The vid you posted had in its title @Banned Retailer? Why name the vid that if its not one and the same?

Puding · 24-06-2009 5:36pm

so is the arcade shooting system a completely different company? both operating something called action toy soldier as an interactive simulator on the same industrial estate? whats this other company/shops name and contact info email that sort of thing, so people interested can contact them so want to know because if this is a different shop to the banned retailer i ow the original poster and this said company an apologie

airsoftjunkie · 24-06-2009 6:01pm

ok im not going to start another row with the "CLICK" its a seperate companysimple as that face accept itas for the video you speak of if the banned retailer got permission to advertiseon the site so be it nothing to do with you or methere are plenty of businesses that share factorys , offices etcbut have noting todo with each other

Puding · 24-06-2009 6:08pm

'click' humm know who has the conspiracy theorys, anyway that has nothing to do with me my interest was if it is a differant company (again do we have a name for this company) as if it is the case there not connected then they can be freely talked about without issue, and again as i said if it is a differant company you and them are owed an apology as i would have had my fact wrong, i like to have my fact right

also i take offense about you implying im part of a click, just as much as you seem to take offense to people implying this 2nd company in the same estate you take about running the same system as the banned retailor are one in the same

airsoftjunkie · 24-06-2009 6:25pm

its owned by riverbreeze industries

Puding · 24-06-2009 6:29pm

does the shop have a name or does it trade under this company name@?

Kristov · 24-06-2009 6:31pm

because if i put up a thread called riverbreeze industries are opening an indoor shooting range .. no one on here would know who or where they are . so i linked a vid to the thread and put the retailer on the name so people would know where it is situated . has no one ever heard of two seperate companys in the one building .
it really has nothijng to do with the banned retailer

Rew wrote: »

I'm confused hence the thread is still open. The vid you posted had in its title @Banned Retailer? Why name the vid that if its not one and the same?

Kristov · 24-06-2009 6:40pm

its called arcada run by a company called riverbreeze trading as action toy soldier their email is info@actiontoysoldier.com their number is 01 8119986 give them a call they will run through the details with you prices and all that sort of thing .

Puding wrote: »

does the shop have a name or does it trade under this company name@?

airsoftjunkie · 24-06-2009 6:42pm

look i started this thread to tell people of a new and unique experience for airsoft and airsofters and once again people wanna slate it because it SHARESthe same area as a banned retailer come on people i told you who owns itso if you have a problem with it dont ask me k i really dont give a s**tif you have issues with the "banned" i dont careto everyone else try it , its top class you wont be disappointed

Puding · 24-06-2009 6:44pm

called riverbreeze trading as action toy soldier their email is info@actiontoysoldier.com

so thats the same email as on mias web site...

Masada · 24-06-2009 6:47pm

A company registration check shows they are not only in the same building as a banned retailer, but are also in the same unit.

Puding · 24-06-2009 6:48pm

A company registration check shows they are not only in the same building as a banned retailer, but are also in the same unit.

dame you (shakes fist in anger) i was saving that bit of info

mle1324 · 24-06-2009 6:51pm

and if it is on MIAs premises it was still funded by a different company altogether so i cant see why yous are making a big deal about it.

Masada · 24-06-2009 6:53pm

lol., my bad.,

i think its safe to say the point has been made though. it is associated with the "banned retailer" end of.

Puding · 24-06-2009 6:56pm

and if it is on MIAs premises it was still funded by a different company altogether so i cant see why yous are making a big deal about it.

if that is the case i will refer to my comment earlier on 'worst business decision ever' 2 company's same building, start the same new product at the same time...:rolleyes:

airsoftjunkie · 24-06-2009 6:57pm

ok first of all big whoop if they same the same unit dont mean jackan example for you peoplean post own by the govermentspar a franchise companythey share the same unit in many places but to sep companiesas for you puding get real "save that for later" totally stupid get real manas for being on mia's web did you ever hear of advertisingeirsoft advertise the warehouse but nothing to do with each other

Kristov · 24-06-2009 6:58pm

theres lots of shops in the blanch shopping centre are they all the one company too ? .

would you rather "A" rent a whole building and use 30% of it and have the rest sitting there idle costing money or "B" rent 30% off a building that already has the same interest as your company . its a no brainer lads and ive already said they are in the same building or did no one read that part and just jump to conclusions yet again on here as they always do . ill say it once more its a totally different company and ofcourse its advertised on the banned retailers site its in their building

mle1324 · 24-06-2009 7:01pm

Puding wrote: »

if that is the case i will refer to my comment earlier on 'worst business decision ever' 2 company's same building, start the same new product at the same time...:rolleyes:

so in other words what you mean is that if Action Toy Solider wanted to advertise the arcade on boards.ie they should of not set it up in the same premises as the banned retailer?

Puding · 24-06-2009 7:09pm

for being on mia's web did you ever hear of advertisingeirsoft advertise the warehouse but nothing to do with each other

totally different company and ofcourse its advertised on the banned retailers site its in their building

so there is a connection by both your comments, so peoples previous remarks with this being connected to mia would stand and be correct,

there is 2 ways this stands from what everyone has said,

option one
riverbreeze opens a shop just offering this arcade game but use mia to advertise thought, youtube info and info on mias website would contradict this as it gives the impression mia are running the game themselves

option two
mia and riverbreeze both start running the same arcade game in the same building, but the email address info we have would contradict this as why would a separate copy advertise there email on a competing company's website

i can see why people are confused with this one better than a murder she wrote episode

so in other words what you mean is that if Action Toy Solider wanted to advertise the arcade on boards.ie they should of not set it up in the same premises as the banned retailer?

not really, would be a choose for boards and not me, but i would simply get the companys name above the door and the address, would be differant from the banned retialor, im sore someone would then be able to confirm this for boards

Rew · 24-06-2009 7:11pm

Right for now im happy that these are seperate companies that exist in the same premises so back on topic.

NakedDex · 24-06-2009 7:26pm

First off, airsoftjunkie, can you please learn where the punctuation keys are on your keyboard and use them. I've pretty much glossed right over everything you've said in this thread so far because I've found it incomprehensible.

Getting back to the topic.

I understand the concept of this, but not the point? I can walk into any arcade and jump on Time Crisis. If I want levels of realism, there's a nifty America's Army game based on range training with various weapons. Heck, I can even get break out the G-Con and Die Hard on the PS1.
If I crave more realism, I can actually go to a skirmish and shoot moving, thinking targets and, crucially, be shot back. Also, I'll unwillingly get some exercise in the process, maybe meet some new people too.

I'm genuinely bemused as to the point of this. If anyone could fill me in, I'd be curious as to the reasons.

Kristov · 24-06-2009 7:26pm

"the warehouse is linked to the banned retailers website"

anyway back on topic if anyone hasnt seen the vid here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh3_jTCBIls

its really well worth a go . i have other vids to upload from different game types that are available ill try get some more up later . go on give it a go you know you want to

Kristov · 24-06-2009 7:32pm

i reckon the point is that not every one can afford an airsoft loadout or to hire their guns n ammo for a day also there are alot of kids that cant play airsoft due to age/insurance on sites .
this fills that gap the kids can play the game with low power aegs and instead of holding a ps or xbox controller they hold a gun and actually shoot it instead of X O XXR1 R2 L1

Masada · 24-06-2009 7:37pm

How accurate is it? it looks abismal from the video, or whoever is using it has a terrible shot, 165 shots fired (although it appeared to be a lot more) and only 28 hits?

how many courses are on it?

I used it in germany and wasnt really impressed, nice in theory but horribly inaccurate.

Shiva · 24-06-2009 7:43pm

For Christs sake....how f**king stupid do you think people are ?

The "banned retailer" and Riverbreeze both have a company director in common, and everyone here who knows the banned retailer knows his name.

So to say there is no connection is an outright lie.

For f**ks sake. Lie your arse of all you want, but dont insult our intelligence.

NakedDex · 24-06-2009 7:45pm

Well you don't need a loadout to skirmish. You don't even need a gun if you don't have one. Rentals are cheap and ammo is even cheaper. I've heard of plenty of people turning up to skirmishes in the Warehouse with just a pistol and a spare mag and having a blast.
Loadouts are for those of us who either want to be camouflaged and hidden for a specific reason (ie, snipers) and those of us who just want to dress up for the craic. In other words, it's optional. I've seen loads of people play in regular clothes. I once skirmished in a Leinster jersey, jeans and dubes, and had a ball doing it.
What I'm saying here is, equipment isn't so much of a reason for someone not to skirmish, but instead play this video game. It sure isn't a reason to choose this system over the choice of twenty plus in the likes of Dr. Quirkeys.

The point about kids under the age to skirmish is valid though, and I accept that. But does that mean that one of the primary markets this is targeted at is under 14's? That's a pretty slim market (though from experience I know it exists to a degree) to be going after, and one with little expendable cash.

I'm still not seeing a reason I should try it out to be honest. It just looks like a step backward from skirmishing or even target shooting if it was to be compared to either of those. If it was to be compared to a video game I'd simply consider it a fairly boring one. AEG in your hand or not, it still doesn't look half as entertaining as Time Crisis, Ghost Squad or any one of the myriad of light gun games that are out there.

Kristov · 24-06-2009 7:48pm

ill be honest it was me shooting im rubbish

once you have good timing and are a good shot its very good id say theres around 200 different game modes each with different levels of difficulty plus you can upload your own pics for the targets or vids of your fav sites and have your mates shoot back at ya

its very good .the one that was in germany was set up for demo mode which takes a hell of a lot less time to set up that particular screen in blanch took almost 8 hours to calibrate so its very accurate . and no just incase anyones thinking it i dont have anything to do with it i just helped set it up ..

Masada wrote: »

How accurate is it? it looks abismal from the video, or whoever is using it has a terrible shot, 165 shots fired (although it appeared to be a lot more) and only 28 hits?

how many courses are on it?

I used it in germany and wasnt really impressed, nice in theory but horribly inaccurate.

Masada · 24-06-2009 7:51pm

Nah the one i used in germany was as its supposed to be, pretty much exactly as that one there is.

We me must have missed ya over there, saw a few of the lads ya work with though.

Stercus Accidit · 24-06-2009 7:57pm

He he, loads of silly sh... stuff on the forum today.

Spetzcong · 24-06-2009 8:00pm

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

He he, loads of silly sh... stuff on the forum today.

I still maintain that it's better than working for a living, I'm kinda cranky coz I had to sign on today.

On topic, I hear some of the programmes on that video game jobber are of actual airsoft sites here in Ireland, is that true?

johnboyire · 24-06-2009 9:46pm

i got to try it out and while some of the game modes kids would enjoy more, the video modes are great and ability to add your own videos/scenarios is a plus i am looking forward to seeing what people come up with.

the most enjoyable part for me was the range where you can increase /decrease the range size change target size have them moving at different speeds - you can use your own aegs so its a good way to improve your accuracy and have your aeg /gbb working spot on you can definitly see the difference in groupings.

it can definitley be used to complement airsoft not replace it as some are trying to make out. personally i would use this once every month or two or if i got a new aeg.

its the first in ireland that i know of id say try it for yourself and make your own mind up.

NakedDex · 24-06-2009 9:54pm

johnboyire wrote: »

the most enjoyable part for me was the range where you can increase /decrease the range size change target size have them moving at different speeds - you can use your own aegs so its a good way to improve your accuracy and have your aeg /gbb working spot on you can definitly see the difference in groupings.

I don't know, I'm just not convinced. That sounds too much like an actual skirmish in motion to me.
What's the cost? If it was priced keenly I could see the attraction as a novelty, but little else.

I'm not trying to belittle it, or anyone who uses it. I'm just failing to see it's practicality.

Puding · 24-06-2009 9:58pm

i do not see how it could help with airsoft accuracy, airsoft bullistics is akin to the dark arts, the sceen can only be say 10/15 feet away? i can not see how this could replicate the balistic arche of a bb takjing into effect hopup for example

johnboyire · 24-06-2009 10:06pm

NakedDex wrote: »

I don't know, I'm just not convinced. That sounds too much like an actual skirmish in motion to me.
What's the cost? If it was priced keenly I could see the attraction as a novelty, but little else.

I'm not trying to belittle it, or anyone who uses it. I'm just failing to see it's practicality.

well i am not out to convince anyone i just gave some of the pros and cons , if your interested you should contact them, the details on some of the previous posts then you should try skirmishing on an airsoft site and see the difference.

tonky · 24-06-2009 10:14pm

johnboyire wrote: »

i got to try it out and while some of the game modes kids would enjoy more, the video modes are great and ability to add your own videos/scenarios is a plus i am looking forward to seeing what people come up with.

the most enjoyable part for me was the range where you can increase /decrease the range size change target size have them moving at different speeds - you can use your own aegs so its a good way to improve your accuracy and have your aeg /gbb working spot on you can definitly see the difference in groupings.

it can definitley be used to complement airsoft not replace it as some are trying to make out. personally i would use this once every month or two or if i got a new aeg.

its the first in ireland that i know of, id say try it for yourself and make your own mind up

Agree with all of the above. I've used it and found it useful as well as entertaining. I think it would be useful for youngsters or even novice airsofters to learn the handling/aiming of the guns. No harm to go over and give it a try and then make your own decision.

johnboyire · 24-06-2009 10:15pm

Puding wrote: »

i do not see how it could help with airsoft accuracy, airsoft bullistics is akin to the dark arts, the sceen can only be say 10/15 feet away? i can not see how this could replicate the balistic arche of a bb takjing into effect hopup for example

i should have explained futher - when peole are skimishing they dont wait for the stars to allign correctly before they use their aegs, its usually tweaking their hop up and taking a few pot shots this lets you take the pot shots a step further and work on your muscle memory on multiple targets for example,

but your right to be afraid of this new witchcraft you might turn into a frog if you use it, dont say i didnt warn you! :eek:

hoplite · 24-06-2009 10:17pm

Kristov wrote: »

"the warehouse is linked to the banned retailers website"

anyway back on topic if anyone hasnt seen the vid here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh3_jTCBIls

its really well worth a go . i have other vids to upload from different game types that are available ill try get some more up later . go on give it a go you know you want to

Looking at that Video I'm sure I'd derive more pleasure from a party game on the Wii.

First Blammo kill markers and now this. The unmentionable one just does'nt get airsoft does he?

Puding · 24-06-2009 10:21pm

sorry if you found my post funny, if this as some people have said can be used to 'train' for airsoft the the points i raised are a factor, hop up does not give you a flat flight path, for me hardest thing to learn for airsoft is judging flightpath speed of travel leading your fire etc etc,

the system could be good for judging situations fast target spoting stuff like that, pritty much what simulators like this are use for with the real military, but others have said you could in theory do the same with time crisis

Rew · 25-06-2009 1:08am

Seems like the two really are one:

http://www.talkingairsoft.com/forum/index.php?topic=129.0

Thread closed.

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