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Last of the Summer Wine

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 8

    Galway Bay looking less likely all the time. But there is always hope!

    The hope is what kills you :) I'm debating a back up for the back up with the virtual DCM, although not so sure I could put myself through that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    The hope is what kills you :) I'm debating a back up for the back up with the virtual DCM, although not so sure I could put myself through that.

    What’s the Plan A?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    Murph_D wrote: »
    What’s the Plan A?

    I hope to see you at the start at Nimmo's pier


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 8

    Galway Bay looking less likely all the time. But there is always hope!

    Tue 21 Jul

    Speed: 3 x 1609 (600 jog recovery)

    The now regular 6:40 meetup with C and G. This time, I made a conscious decision in advance that 5-10k pace was acceptable. The result was a much more controlled session than last week - hard but still possible to think about form and about trying to embrace the effort rather than be a slave to it. Or something. Lively discussion afterwards about pacing, and plumbing. ;)

    Feel free to disregard as I did the beginner plan, but I always thought it 5-10k pace. 5k pace for the shorter reps slowing to 10k pace for the longest reps. It's a long time ago now, so I might well be misremembering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Huzzah! wrote: »
    Feel free to disregard as I did the beginner plan, but I always thought it 5-10k pace. 5k pace for the shorter reps slowing to 10k pace for the longest reps. It's a long time ago now, so I might well be misremembering.

    No, you are probably right - I found the guidance in the book to be a bit ambiguous. For a runner with a 20 min '5k target', the rep speeds given are:

    Rep|Time|5k equiv
    400|1:38|20:25
    600|2:25|20:08|
    800|3:15|20:08|
    1k|4:00|20:00|
    1200|4:50|20:19|
    1600|6:30|20:19|


    While you could say the table allows for a bit of rounding etc, the linearity of this curve bothers me a little - the relative paces of the different rep lengths are actually increasing slightly up to 1k - even though the recovery period (400m jog) is the same for all reps except the 1600 (where you get 600m).The pace drops a little for 1200s and 1600s, but it's still pretty fast, especially the 1200s, considering the short recovery.

    But the bottom line is, they are saying run these at more or less at 5k pace, regardless of distance. There are occasional references to 10k pace (especially for beginners) but it is not definitive, in my opinion.

    I don't remember this being an issue with the HM version of the plan, because at least there the recovery periods were relatively longer (50-90% of rep time).

    The guidance for the Beginner plan might be more specific, as you say. So for the advanced, I'm interpreting (from this week on) as '5-10k pace', despite the book's ambiguity!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    I hope to see you at the start at Nimmo's pier

    Excellent. Full, half or 10k? Sorry, I haven’t been keeping up with the logs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Excellent. Full, half or 10k? Sorry, I haven’t been keeping up with the logs.

    Signed up to the full for my sins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 8 cont.

    Thu 23 Jul

    11.23k @ MP (80% HRR)

    Unlike last week, I was well prepared for this important session. Rest, hydration and sleep all better than usual. Up the Royal Canal into the wind, naturally a few secs slower than the target 4:46 pace, but more than making up for it on the way back. No problems at all, feeling good. Total with WU/CD - 17 kms.

    Fri 24 Jul

    9.8k recovery @ 5:55 (63% HRR)

    Legs pretty tired after yesterday, just tipping around town.

    Sat 25 Jul

    16.1k @ 5:39 (59% HRR)

    In Westport for a couple of days. Found the Greenway entrance at the Quay and headed off on an out-and-back, accompanied for the first section (the parkrun course, essentially) by the mrs. Tough enough route with a long drag. Wasn’t expecting the greenway to be as hilly as it was, but what a facility.

    Sun 26 Jul

    16.2k@ 5:34 (61% HRR)

    Further exploration of Westport, starting with a tour of the Big House and out then on the main road west, again with the benefit of a very well kept pedestrian/cycling greenway, well away from the traffic. Croagh Patrick loomed in the near distance, for the Reek Sunday that was in it. Returned to the Harbour area via the coast road, again on a well paved footpath and even a boardwalk section on the Bay. A final mile around the harbour, circling the pet food factory - a former fishmeal plant, and a gigantic eyesore right in the bay. Very Irish piece of industrial planning, but it didn’t spoil a fabulous run. Westport runners have plenty to be proud of.

    So that completes the first half of the plan, with 51 miles this week. Definitely starting to feel stronger and the HR data has been encouraging this week. Hopefully it's accurate! :)

    This week: 82 kms (51 miles)
    This year: 1,958 (1,217)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 9

    Into the second half of the plan this week. So far, so good. Starting to feel that marathon plan tiredness. Good to have the others to bounce things off - we are all feeling the miles, with even the easy runs sometimes feeling like a chore.

    Mon 27 Jul

    9.6k easy/recovery @ 5:42 (57% HRR)

    An early 6 miles around Westport in the rain. Some swanky digs around this town! I think I found W4. :)

    Tue 28 Jul

    Speed: 5 x 1k (400 jog recovery)

    For the last two speed sessions on the plan, Hanson lets you choose whichever ones you feel will deliver the best benefit. I chose the 5x1k workout, as it was the one I missed on the skipped week. Back in Donegal for a few days so took to the Glenties track again for this one. Harder to pace without C and G to work off, but after a flaky enough first rep I got the feel for the pace, and the workrate felt right. The usual locals out for their morning walk on the track, and they all had a friendly wave for the interloper.

    Splits: (target ~4:08)

    4:07 4:09 4:07 4:08 4:03

    The way Hanson is structured with the rest day on the Weds, this session sometimes feels more like the end of the weekly cycle. Glad to have it done, and I look forward to the day off.

    This week: 22 kms (14 miles)
    This year: 1,980 (1,231)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 9 cont.

    Wed 29 Jul

    Rest.

    Thu 30 Jul

    17.4k with 13 @ MP (82% HRR)

    No hydration problems on this run. It was teeming when I hopped in the car and still lashing when I pulled up in the carpark at Inver Beach, a few miles away, where I’d planned an 8-mile circuit that would start out with a long drag but redeem itself on the way home. There was a brief respite as I warmed up with a lap of the beach and a jog up to the start point, past the extensive renovations that are going on at Drumbeg House, a local mini-manor. Then I reset the watch and headed off along the road known as the Doorin Line, presumably after the railway that used to be nearby. The heavens opened before long, and I did my best to concentrate on the job at hand, keeping the effort steady and not worrying too much about the inevitable deviation from the target pace of 4:46/k (7:40/m).

    I am fairly familiar with this road but miscalculated the right turn that would loop me back towards the start and missed it completely. Instead, I found myself taking the following turn that leads to a steep descent to the shore at Mountcharles. I realised my error too late and reluctantly did a U-turn back up the hill - a hill I’d sworn I’d never run again after I first stumbled across it a few years ago. Absolutely gassed by the top of it, and was delighted to have to stop in the ditch to let a truck pass. I consolidated over the flattish section back to the main road and set about making some hay on the downhill and mostly downwind return to the start. Got into a really good groove here and patiently chipped away at the average pace, managing to finally hit the target with about 400m to go. Cooled down in the still heavily falling rain, happy with my effort. Needed every stitch of the complete change of clothes I'd brought along.

    This was a tough run, and possibly I overcooked it, doing the last three miles at faster than half marathon pace, but I think one of the points of these MP midweek sessions is the psychological challenge they pose, and so I’m happy to have made the number under quite difficult circumstances. One of the good ones!

    Fri 31 Jul

    11.4k recovery @ 5:58 (56% HRR)

    After a very relaxing afternoon, an early night and a good lie-in I woke with most of the aches and pains from yesterday magically disappeared. It was raining as hard as ever but I headed out after breakfast for a lap of the familiar Calhame loop. No shortage of water on the road, which was riverlike in places as the ditches started to overflow. :eek: A pleasant and restorative run nevertheless.

    And that takes me over 2,000kms for the year to date, closing out July with a decent 344k (215 miles).

    This week: 51 kms (32 miles)
    This year: 2,009 (1,249)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 9 cont.

    Sat 1 Aug

    13.2k @ 5:53 (64% HRR)

    Enjoyable easy run from the GAA club along the seafront to Dollymount, taking the trails by the golf course and returning on the beach. Not far from high tide so not a huge amount of firm sand available. Felt tired on this run, but in a good, manageable way.

    Sun 2 Aug

    26.2k with 25 steady @ 5:11 (74% HRR)

    I wanted to run the new section of Royal Canal greenway between Sheriff St and the North Strand, so plotted a route last night along the canal and back via the Tolka, with Dunsink Lane as the link (River Road is too dangerous trafficwise with no footpath). I wasn’t sure Dunsink Lane would be navigable end to end, as it was partially closed off years ago, but Google Maps suggested the barriers were passable on foot, so I decided to give it a whirl. At the last minute I decided to run the route in reverse, so it would be mostly uphill in the first half. The Hanson steady pace (25 secs /k slower than MP) feels hard enough at the end of a long week, but managed it without too much trouble. Enjoyed the route, although got a bit lost around the Ratoath Road area searching for my turnoff. But all good in the end. Enjoyed the new greenway section also - terrific separation between bike and pedestrian paths. Not a hope of continuing that beyond the North Strand of course, unless they build a boardwalk!

    56 miles this week, highest this year.

    This week: 90 kms (56 miles)
    This year: 2,048 (1,273)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 10

    The Hanson schedule is really starting to bite. Shattered after last Sunday’s LR. But on we go.

    Mon 3 Aug

    11.7k easy/recovery @ 6:32 (49% HRR)

    Met up with a friend for a lap of Grangegorman TUD campus and up to the Phoenix Park and back. Chatty and very easy - just what the doctor ordered!

    Tue 4 Aug

    Speed: 3 x 1609m (600 jog recovery)

    The now regular early morning meetup in St Anne’s with C, G and now M as well. A warmup with some dynamics, then into the final speed session of the plan. The lads set off and I was left on the start line fiddling with the watch as I hadn’t preloaded the session. This meant I was out of sync with the others for the whole workout, so didn’t really have anyone to chase this week. But no matter - eased into it and aimed for the middle of the 5-10k pace range, i.e. a target of about 6:40 per mile. Found it tough enough with the accumulating fatigue, but never felt I couldn’t have pushed a bit harder if necessary.

    Splits: (target ~6:40)

    6:41 6:40 6:39

    Perhaps I could have gone at this a bit more, but I’m happy to have eased back a little rather than killing myself at 5k pace. Cooldown brought this morning’s total to 11.33k.

    This week: 23 kms (14 miles)
    This year: 2.071 (1,287)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭MY BAD


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Speed: 3 x 1609m
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    MY BAD wrote: »
    :)

    It would be wrong not to. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 10 cont.

    Wed 5 Aug

    Rest.

    Thu 6 Aug

    17.5k with 13 @ MP (86% HRR)

    To the Phoenix Park. Warmed up with C down Chesterfield before we went our seperate ways for the MP miles. The toughest part of the run was the first couple of miles up the Military and Glen roads then through the Glen itself. Don’t usually run this section in the Westerly direction, and the Glen has a tough climb out. Consolidating down the North Road, then a final push up Chesterfield to finish near the Visitors Centre. I thought this went well, fairly controlled, but, like some of the earlier MP sessions, the HR in the final miles suggests I’m not doing a lot of these sessions at a sustainable pace. Some of it could be weather related (a very warm morning), but following further reflection over the weekend, maybe time to drop the target pace a little, and see how it goes.

    Enjoyable breakfast after. We followed the quite complicated routing arrows and distancing rules at the Visitors Centre.

    Fri 7 Aug

    11.k recovery @ 5:56 (no HR monitor)

    A running-related weekend, on hols with C and P in Roundwood vicinity. Following a round of golf (!) on the way down, we hit the Vartry reservoir for a shakeout before dinner. C had prepared well, but a wrong turn led to an extra km and much discussion about how such an error could possibly have happened. ;)

    Sat 8 Aug

    Mountain running ~ 9.6 miles (no HR monitor)

    The planned route through Luggala and up Knocknacloghoge (easy for you to say) had to be abandoned as the Estate gates were closed, ostensibly for covid reasons. Hmm. We left the car park and several dozen disappointed walkers and headed for nearby Djouce mountain instead, running up on the Wicklow Way sleeper path with a detour to the summit. Amazingly we bumped into DenisB near the summit and again on the other side, eventually joining him for a mile down to the Dargle River where he assured us the water was safe to drink. ;) I took a welcome sup, carfully upstream from two lads who had jumped in to cool off, then we set off on the homeward leg back to the car park. I don’t do much mountain running, and in truth we walked most of the uphill bits, but it was a spectacular morning and early afternoon, and a most enjoyable variation from the usual fare.

    Cash only at the carpark ice cream van, unfortunately, so no 99s. :(

    Sun 9 Aug

    16.1k easy @ 5:51 (no HR monitor)

    Out early for the final run of the weekend, around both lakes of the Vartry Reservoir, with a few photo stops to enjoy the scenery and the handsome engineering and architectural features. Amazing that this was all created more than 150 years ago by men with little more than picks, shovels, horses and carts. Most enjoyable, despite last night’s dinner and beers. :o

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    And that ends a decent enough week at 83k (52 miles).

    This week: 83 kms (52 miles)
    This year: 2,142 (1,331)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 11

    This week’s highlight is the switch from ‘speed’ sessions to ‘strength’. As mentioned last week, will probably dial back the Thursday MP tempo session too, unless the HR data says different on the day. Feeling good at the start of the week - not as tired as last week.

    Mon 10 Aug

    10.5k recovery @ 6:36 (49% HRR)

    A lap of the northern half of the Phoenix Park with an old friend. Very easy pace, and no residuals from the weekend. Hadn’t looked at the schedule and was reminded afterwards that this should have been 8 miles / 13k. Oops!

    Tue 11 Aug

    Strength: 6 x 1 mile (400m jog recovery) (Avg rep 75% HRR)

    I didn’t get the memo about our Tuesday joint session being no more, and had the carpark to myself for a few lonely stretches before eventually heading through St. Anne’s for a warmup. The target for this session was 7:30 per mile, 10 seconds faster than marathon pace. Wore the chest strap but didn’t look at any of the data during the session, most of which took place on the coastal path between the Dollymount causeway and Sutton Cross. Spotted Ferris up ahead, soon after the Sutton turn, but didn’t manage to catch him. Final rep was entirely in St. Anne’s, up the Avenue, the watch beeping at the exact point I passed through the gates.

    Splits: (target ~7:30)

    7:31 7:31 7:30 7:30 7:28 7:30

    Pleased with that, especially when I noted afterwards that the HR average was relatively low and still only around 80% of HRR at the end of the final (and slightly uphill) rep. Slow cooldown back around the park with a few waves at some clubmates doing one of MC’s regular sessions. Friendly morning all round really, with several waves from other running acquaintances and Mrs. Ferris.

    This week: 28 kms (17 miles)
    This year: 2,159 (1,342)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 11 cont.

    Wed 12 Aug

    Rest.

    Thu 13 Aug

    13k @ MP (78% HRR)
    Took myself out to the south side of Dublin Bay for this one. Parked at the Irishtown track and admired the new Cru clubhouse under construction. Warmed up with A in Sandymount before starting the MP miles at the end of the strand, out to Dun Laoghaire and back to Irishtown. The aim this week was to not exceed 168 bpm, which is 80% of my HRR. This slowed MP by only 1 second, but made for a much more sustainable outing, and I really enjoyed this as a result, even though as usual the (slight) wind was against me for the long homeward leg. Jogged back over the liffey to cool down, bringing the total for the day to 18.7k (11.7 mi).

    Fri 14 Aug

    11.3k easy @ 5:48 (59% HRR)

    Out to Dollymount and over the bridge. Legs not too bad considering the miles this week.

    Sat 15 Aug

    13.3k recovery @ 5.55 (HRR 64%)

    Retrieved the car and drove out to St. Annes’s for a lap of the perimeter and a couple of laps of the XC course. HR a little elevated after last night’s pizza and beers.

    Sun 16 Aug

    LR 26k @ 5:13 (74% HRR)

    First of the notorious Hanson 16 milers! Ran the deserted streets of Dublin out to UCD, where I completed a lap of the campus, mostly on the trails, getting lost a couple of times as usual. They really could mark this lovely circuit better - I kept meeting a group of three women who were also struggling to find their way around. As always, I did a couple of laps of the old, decaying Belfield track. No sign of the new track yet, although there was at least an artists impression on a billboard, presumably on the site itself. Retraced my way back to the city and then hit the Royal Canal Greenway to Drumcondra and home from there. Struggled a little in the latter stages of this, and glad to have it out of the way.

    97k this week - 60+ miles.

    This week: 97 kms (60 miles)
    This year: 2,229 (1,385)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    That UCD perimeter path has changed quite a bit recently due to construction work etc. You are right, it needs to be labelled better now. Always annoys me seeing that track ripped up for another carpark(teasing leaving a decaying 200 metres of it too)..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 12

    Week 12 - almost two thirds of the way through the plan. Have to say the ramp up of mileage seems to have been achieved without too much trouble and I’m feeling pretty good, although the sessions and long runs are certainly challenging. This week’s news doesn’t make it any more likely that the Galway race will go ahead however. I wonder will they make a call soon, or will they wait til the Sept 13 re-evaluation. Tricky. Will carry on anyway - there will be something at the end of it, no matter what happens.

    Mon 17 Aug

    10.3k recovery @ 6:38 (49% HRR)

    A slow recovery jog around the south west city centre chatting with my now regular Monday buddy, SS. A few ears might have been burning. :p Passed the old Coombe hospital, and the new Coombe, which isn’t on the Coombe. ;)

    Tue 18 Aug

    Strength: 4 x 1.5 mile (800m jog recovery) (Avg rep appx 81% HRRx)

    Back in Donegal for a week or so. Drove out to Inver beach and did these reps on the course I screwed up the last time I was here. It wasn’t long enough, necessitating a few deviations down side roads and a final cooldown on the beach. The target for these was 11:18 average per rep, over a course with a fair few drags and drops.

    Splits:

    11:23 11:04 11:13 11:14

    Happy enough - it was a wet but happily not too breezy morning. Wouldn’t have minded a swim at the end, but the tide was miles out during my cooldown. Getting a bit itchy for a race at this stage - no tuneups in the plan, of course, which is probably just as well. Mileage is getting up there - definitely the highest ever at this stage of the year, and more than 200k ahead of the required mileage to hit this year’s 2,000m target

    This week: 27 kms (17 miles)
    This year: 2,256 (1,402)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 12 cont.

    Wed 19 Aug

    Rest.

    Thu 20 Aug

    14.5k @ MP (79% HRR)

    After waking in the middle of the night listening to Storm Ellen howling outside, I was delighted to wake to what sounded like a relatively calm day, but I soon disovered there was a bit of wind about as I set out on my hilly route around the nearby townlonds of Calhame, Loughmuilt, Tullinteane, Gilbertstown, and a few more. Like last week, I decided to run to HR. Unlike last week, I didn’t manage to come close to M pace (now 4:47/k) after the first few downwind and net downhill miles.

    A few weeks ago, I ran a 7m tempo on the seafront where I flogged myself (and failed) trying to maintain MP into a stiff wind. Today I just ran completely by HR and didn’t worry about not making the pace. I trust from previous runs, tests, etc that I know where M effort is, around 80% HRR, and if conditions conspire to produce a slower run at that effort, so be it. I trust that the stimulus is what it should be, and it will be alright on the night. :)

    Average today for the 9 miles was about 4:55/k (7:55/m), which equates to about a 3:27 marathon, and if I did one in conditions like that, on a course like that, I suppose I would be happy enough.

    In other news, Galway Bay organisers finally emailed participants to say the race was still a possibility, but they are also suggesting a possible spring 2021 postponement. So not quite putting us out of our misery yet. ;)

    This week: 47 kms (29 miles)
    This year: 2,275 (1,414)


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    Week 12 cont.

    Fri 21 Aug

    10k easy @ 5:33 (HRR 61%)

    A bread and butter easy run around the local loop. Startled a rabbit, but nothing else of note to report. Felt good.

    Sat 22 Aug

    16.1k easy @ 5.37 (HRR 61%)

    Out of bed and straight out the door and down to St. John’s Point, where I would meet the family at the beach for a swim. Enjoyed the scenery - what I could see of it in the rain and mist. Soaked to the skin by the time I arrived at the destination but still had 2k to do so waved at the girls and continued on towards the lighthouse, until the road was blocked by the local free range bullocks and I turned. Felt very good on this run, and enjoyed a cold and refreshing dip in the turquoise waters of the lovely little cove at Ballycroy/

    Sun 23 Aug

    LR 16.1k @ 5:29 (67% HRR)

    10 miles, using much of Thursday’s tempo route, this time in the other direction. It was a glorious early afternoon and I was pleased to comfortably do this at the faster end of easy pace. On the other hand, I’m a little perplexed by how much I seem to slow down on hills, despite running these Donegal roads considerably more than ever this year. I just don’t feel any strength when negotiating anything much more than a speed bump. However, I won’t dwell on it for now - amn’t I lucky to still be putting one foot in front of the other after all?

    This week: 89 kms (55 miles)
    This year: 2,318 (1,440)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 13

    So… into the final third of the plan. I haven’t missed a run yet, and It’s gone pretty smoothly. The MP runs have been the most difficult sessions, and I’ve adjusted things slightly. The next few of these sessions will be really crucial, as I continue to monitor HR to verify that the target (3:22 at the moment) is realistic. I will begin to introduce The Shoes on some of these MP runs, possibly starting this week. Time to start breaking them in properly, and gauge their effect, if any, on the effort expended.

    Mon 24 Aug

    13.1k easy @ 5:49 (61% HRR)

    Four miles out to the Croagh Caravan Park and four back down the hills. This was an evening run, first in a while, so a bit warmer and muggier than I’ve been used to of late. A bit tired after some work around the garden, but all good. Home just before dinner, and ate like the proverbial horse. 200 miles already this month, with a full week to go, so the plan isn’t short on the mileage front.

    This week: 13 kms (8 miles)
    This year: 2,331 (1,449)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 13 cont.

    Tue 25 Aug

    Strength: 3 x 2 miles (800m jog recovery) (Max 85% HRR)

    Not in a rush to get out of bed on the last full day of the holidays, listening to the rain pounding down all night. The gas man arrived unexpectedly early to service the cooker, so I hung around, glad of the excuse to postpone the session. The wind was getting up - at one stage the poor man went outside to his van and narrowly avoided an encounter with the lid of the barbecue, lifted by a strong gust and propelled about 10 metres through the air at head height. None of this boded well for my session, and I dithered over where I might get some protection. Eventually headed for the Mountcharles Pier where there’s just over a mile of flat road that I hoped might be somewhat sheltered from the NE wind by the tall trees in the adjacent Hall Demesne (home of the Conyngham/Mountcharles gentry that gave the village its modern name, before they consolidated in Slane). I was wrong about the shelter, and after a foolish choice of a looped first rep featuring some steep uphills and downhills, I settled into the job at hand running lengths of the pier road, impressing some local strollers as I huffed past several times during the effort.

    Splits:
    15:04 15:07 15:05

    These sessions are 10s faster than MP so the target was 15:04 for the 2m reps. Under the circumstances I’m delighted with that - it was tough going (mentally more than physically) from the start. Relief of course in the downwind parts, but the net effect of the headwind is always harder. Was buoyed by the memory of some very gruelling sessions along the same road a couple of years ago during my 800m phase - told myself these ’slow’ miles were a piece of cake in comparison. Whatever works! :)

    This week: 30 kms (19 miles)
    This year: 2,347 (1,459)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 13 cont.

    Wed 26 Aug

    Rest. I have been neglecting the S&C, and continued to neglect today. In fact, a long drive back to Dublin had me stiff as a board (as well as ready to kill the kids). Glad to walk down to the shops to stretch the legs - twice, as I forgot my mask the first time.

    Thu 27 Aug

    12 miles inc. 9 @ MP (76% HRR)

    Laced up the vaporflys, as planned earlier, and headed out towards Sutton, easing into the MP around The Yacht. The weather report had told me to expect an ENE breeze, but as usual the seafront microclimate was westerly, as I realised when I passed a few clubmates coming in the opposite direction, and they didn’t look like they were coasting. The seafront is surprisingly short of flags and other objects (such as litter) that would give you an inkling of the wind direction, but I felt really good all the way out to Baldoyle, reining in the pace if anything. Turned into the wind then, cursing the forecast, but in reality it was only a gentle zephyr and I had no trouble clocking up the kms at the required 4:47 pace.

    This was by far the easiest of the MP runs to date. I know they don’t propel themselves, but I have to hand it to the magic shoes - they feel great on this kind of run. A definite confidence booster.

    In other news, as the National Masters has opened for registrations, I signed up for the 1500m, as a gesture of support as much as anything, as I don’t think I’ll actually be around on the day. But if so, I’ll head out and give it an honest effort.

    This week: 49 kms (31 miles)
    This year: 2,361 (1,471)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 13 cont.

    Fri 28 Aug

    11.3k easy @ 5:47 (56% HRR)

    Easy trot to the Bull Wall. Almost got blown off it with the strong gusts. Finally got that ENE wind to blow me home.

    Sat 29 Aug

    13.3k easy @ 5.50 (No HR monitor)

    A lap of the Phoenix Park with G. Left the HR monitors behind and just chatted our way around, discussing the Hanson plan and many other topics. Met up with M for further analysis over breakfast. We all seem to be coping pretty well with the method, touch wood.

    Sun 30 Aug

    LR 26k @ 5:11 (69% HRR)

    Second of the 16-mile runs, which of course are the longest in the schedule. A sparkling autumnal morning around South Dublin Bay - a touch of tailwind on the way out saw me turn on the Dun Laoghaire West Pier a couple of seconds ahead of the pace. I was glad to have the sun behind me on the way back as the glare had been bothering me on the way out - must be better about remembering the sunglasses, as I am getting more and more sensitive to glare in my old age. About three kms from home I felt a few sharp stabs of pain around the outside of my right foot - a bit bothersome, but it went away soon enough. Hopefully nothing serious, perhaps a little protest as the mileage creeps up - still a day to go, but this August has been my highest-mileage month ever. A good week for sure, to end the holidays.

    This week: 100 kms (62 miles).
    This year: 2,417 (1,502)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 14

    Five weeks to go… the body is starting to creak a bit, with a few twinges, mostly around right foot and also feeling the right hamstring occasionally. But it’s make or break time in the schedule, and there’s bound to be at least a little blowback. This old frame has been pretty resilient of late, but 60-mile weeks are rare enough for me, historically. If nothing breaks this week or next, I should be OK.

    Mon 31 Aug

    11k easy @ 5:39 (64% HRR)

    Dropped the older boy at GAA and headed out along the seafront and onto Dollymount beach. Not much to report, except that I was tired and had another couple of jabs under the little toe area of my forefoot. But not something that persisted, thankfully.

    August total: 419k (261m) - runningest month ever, as the Yanks might say.

    Tue 1 Sep

    Strength: 2 x 3 miles (1m jog recovery) (Avg HRR 83%, Max 91%)

    Effectively a pair of 23 minute runs at IAT pace, so this is always a bit of a daunting session. The sun was beaming down on the seafront, which had one of those crosswinds that always seemed to be slightly against, except for the last couple of kms. Target 4:41/k (7:32/m), so 22:36 per rep.

    Splits:
    22:29 22:31

    After the usual creaky first km trying to get a feel for the effort, I was able to knuckle down and get the job done, which will do nicely enough. Felt easier than last week’s version, which probably had more do to with the absence of storm conditions than anything else. ;)

    This week: 27 kms (17 miles)
    This year: 2,444 (1,519)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    That 2x3m session was one of the 3 main sessions last year that gave me confidence in my training. Nicely done despite the creaks... get the foam roller out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    That 2x3m session was one of the 3 main sessions last year that gave me confidence in my training. Nicely done despite the creaks... get the foam roller out

    Cheers M. What were the other two? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Cheers M. What were the other two? :)

    One was not part of the plan. After a flu, I missed 2 weeks. Trained by HR only to gauge where I was then did 14 with 2, 3 and 5m at Marathon effort (HR driven). The paces were decent and I took confidence that the 2 weeks missed was a blip.

    The other was the final 10m Marathon Tempo. I felt knackered that morning and had to grind it out but felt comfortable with the uncomfortable. As tough as it felt, I felt I had the legs to grind out more. In a tired way, a deep satisfaction of feeling fit and just a little undercooked.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 14 cont.

    Wed 2 Sep

    Rest. The plan is so relentless that these days off just feel wrong.

    Thu 3 Sep

    19.7k inc 14.5 @ MP (83% HRR)

    Up at dawn for this one, hoping in vain to avoid some of the wind. Bumped into Ferris during the warmup and turned to run a few hundred metres in the opposite direction (the direction I’d be finishing in) and got a good inkling of what would be in store. We parted ways and I turned back to the more forgiving downwind direction, debating whether to seek shelter somewhere along the way. Two miles in, I crossed towards St. Anne’s Park, then changed my mind and decided to tough it out. It was a lovely fresh morning, and I tried to enjoy as much as I could before I turned for the second half, waving at Ferris and FBOT soon afterwards. ‘Piece of cake!’, I lied as I went past. It was a grim effort home. Tried to lean into the wind and let gravity do some of the work. Surprised myself by losing less time than expected, and almost enjoyed the last few kms. :p Needed every second I’d gained on the way out, but hit the MP number (4:47/k) in the end.

    This week: 47 kms (29 miles)
    This year: 2,464 (1,532)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Why not run this with Ferris & Cranky D? Reading you ran it solo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Is it M effort or M pace that matters in the plan? I saw the run on strava and the heart rate looked far beyond marathon effort!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    OOnegative wrote: »
    Why not run this with Ferris & Cranky D? Reading you ran it solo?

    Their pace is a good bit faster than mine - if I meet up for these runs it’s only for warmup, cooldown or coffee after! We do meet up for easy runs regularly enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Is it M effort or M pace that matters in the plan? I saw the run on strava and the heart rate looked far beyond marathon effort!

    There’s an option to monitor HR but the advice is to prioritise pace. That said, I have run some of the tempos by HR when the conditions - eg hills + wind - made pace too unreliable. I didn’t look at HR at all during today’s run. Knew it would be high towards the end. Wasn’t expecting it to be as high as it was in the ‘easy’ half, however. Had noticed it was a little elevated when I got up, partly die to poor sleep I’d imagine. Avg was 83% of HRR which is a little high alright - would prefer these runs to be 80%. I am confident the target pace is OK though, and have actually reduced it slightly based on HR observation during the plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 14 cont.

    Fri 4 Sep

    10.1k recovery

    Met up with S for our now customary Grangegorman and PP 10k. Chatty and restorative.

    Sat 5 Sep

    16.1k easy @ 5.33

    In Donegal, so a variation on one of the standard 10-mile routes, taking in the nearby town lands of Croagh and Castleogary. Very pleasant - these Hanson ‘easy’ weekends are badly needed sometimes.

    Sun 6 Sep

    16.3k easy @ 5:50

    First couple of miles with A, then we split up and I headed down around the route of the St. John’s Point 10k - a race I hope to get to do again sometime. Another glorious morning, washed clean by the earlier rain.

    I had signed up to run 800m at the National Masters today, but the timing didn’t suit, as the requirement to show up at the stadium 2 hours before the event would have been too much of a rush, never mind the long drive home which would have seen me show up stiff as a board. So I canned it. I would have been the only M55 in my event anyway. Still, it seems a shame to waste a rare opportunity to race. Its great that it went ahead, and I see there were some excellent performances and a couple of new records set. Kudos!

    This week: 90 kms (56 miles).
    This year: 2,507 (1,558)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ‘Galway Bay’ Week 15

    Only four weeks to go. I think by the end of this week we will have a final decision from Galway. Not thinking about the prospect of not racing, really - the Hanson training continues. The plan peaks this week, at 63 miles.

    Mon 7 Sep

    11.3k easy @ 5:48 (64% HRR)

    7 miles from Scoil Uí Chonaill GAA taking in a beach loop on Dollymount. Supposed to be 8 but time was short. Passed a runner I know (twice) who looked like he was doing a tough session. Turned out he was running a 26.2+ miler. Muggy night for it, but them’s the virtual race times we live in!

    Tue 8 Sep

    Strength: 3 x 2 miles (800m jog recovery) (Avg HRR 83%, Max 91%)

    Late getting out again - my weather app was saying it was 21 degrees and I wouldn’t argue with that (Garmin later suggested closer to 22). So another sticky evening in store. I had some tailwind for the first rep, clocking a 4:38/k average against the 4:41 target. This one felt OK - properly comfortably hard - as did most of the next, until I turned for home at Bayside and into the prevailing wind. Averaged 4:39/k for this one, giving the leeway back over the more difficult final rep entirely into the wind. Delighted to hear the watch beep at the wooden bridge, making up yesterday’s missing mile on the jog home.

    Splits (target 15:04):
    14:54 14:58 15:18

    Passed the actor who plays Billy Murphy from The Young Offenders, near St. Anne’s Park. Took a few secs for the penny to drop, but I can confirm he was talking in a loud Cork accent. :pac:

    This week: 30 kms (18 miles)
    This year: 2,537 (1,577)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 15 cont.

    Wed 9 Sep

    Rest.

    Thu 10 Sep

    21.2k inc 16.1 @ MP (80% HRR)

    First of three 10-mile MP runs on the plan. Another early start. Less windy today, water was very still as I jogged along the seafront warming up. Bumped into Ferris again, then FBOT and once again we parted company at the Baths as they headed off on their sub-3 paced tempo. I took a slightly longer warmup than usual (two miles) this morning as I felt my HR was taking a bit longer to settle, but ignored it once I got into the MP. The last few runs on this route have been fairly windy so this morning’s outward leg actually felt a bit harder than usual with a much lighter tailwind. After the honeymoon mile one, I was feeling fairly challenged for a couple of miles. Passed KennyG coming in the opposite direction at Bayside, so it was good to see the full Hanson contingent out nice and early this morning. Enjoyed waving at the sub-3 train early enough on their return leg, before turning myself at Sutton Cross and girding the loins for the longer-than-usual return leg, as I’d front loaded the warmup and had to get all the way to Alfie Byrne Road before hitting 10 miles. Again, I tried to lean into the breeze a little to minimise the effects, and I was happy at the way I was able to get in the zone and reel off the kms, throwing the odd eye on the average pace to make sure I didn’t underdo things on the way back. The result was probably the strongest MP run in some time, based on how I was feeling. Pleased afterwards to see the HR was right where it should be, suggesting things are coming together nicely. Finished the 10 miles right on the money in terms of pace (7:41/m) and HR reserve (168 or 80%).

    A good one. The miles are piling up on the Zoom Flys, I’ll miss them when they’re done. Can’t justify buying another pair as I’ve got a couple of pairs of Pegasus sitting in their boxes ready to go.

    This week: 51 kms (32 miles)
    This year: 2,558 (1,590)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 15 cont.

    Fri 11 Sep

    11.3k recovery @ 5:50

    Seven easy miles on the seafront. Lovely evening, but the run was a bit of a plod.

    Sat 12 Sep

    8.2 mi @ 8:45

    Met up with Ferris for this morning’s eight, taking in St. Anne’s Park and the far end of Dollymount beach. Lots of chat about what might happen re Galway and possible alternatives. Enjoyed the run, which was just about within easy range. We were joined for coffee after by M. Lots of familiar faces around St. Anne’s.

    Sun 13 Sep

    17.9k @ 5:18

    Supposed to be 16 miles steady. Blew this one. Sun was hot and I was not feeling great after a late night. By the time I reached the turnaround at Dun Laoghaire, I was looking for an excuse to stop and talked myself into a 99 at Teddy’s van. Never really got going again and the HR was too high so I jumped on a DART at Blackrock. This doesn’t happed too often so I won’t dwell on it. I know where the problem lies, and I'll possibly be repeating this week again soon anyway.

    This week: 93 kms (58 miles).
    This year: 2,600 (1,618)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hanson ??? Week 16

    Well, we have been put out of our misery again, with Galway Bay postponed til May 2021. This happened during my Tues session.

    Mon 14 Sep

    10.9k easy @ 5:40 (61% HRR)

    6 easy miles from the GAA club again - deviated towards St. Anne’s this time, which was quite busy with many kids and adult sports training going on, and many strollers enjoying the balmy conditions. Was thinking this would be the first run of less than an hour in several weeks, but I miscalculated the route and ended up being out for almost an extra km. On retrieving the GAA kid, I found myself joining in a fruitless search of the darkening pitches for the coach’s lost car keys (and our lad’s dropped fitbit). No luck on either count. :( Enjoyed the run though - although legs quite tired.

    Tue 15 Sep

    Strength: 4 x 1.5 miles (800m jog recovery) (No HR strap)

    I am delighted to be back in the office, hopefully for a while as working from home doesn’t really agree with me. I’m also starting a new job contract, in the same place as the last job, so the new office is also the old. One of its features is that it’s in the attic of a four storey building with no lift, so I’ve been reconditioning my legs to the stairs. It’s in Trinity College, and one of the perks is having a grass track available during the summer months. I hadn’t expected to find the track marked out at all this year, considering there isn’t really any demand, but sure enough it was lined and looking quite inviting, although the grass is a little longer than usual. Anyway I decided it would be wrong under the circumstances to do this session anywhere else, despite the sweltering lunchtime heat. I found all of the reps tough, to be honest. The legs were still quite heavy, but hit the target pace (7:31/mi) quite well. This would have been an easier session on a road or a real track, but it’s good to be back in the auld environs.

    Splits (target 11:16):
    11:14 11:14 11:15 11:15

    Enjoyed a sandwich in the same College Park afterwards, watching an Asian runner in long sleeves and long trousers running laps. Quite a few laps. When she finished, she retrieved a raincoat from a nearby bench. I suppose acclimatisation takes a while.

    This week: 28 kms (17 miles)
    This year: 2,628 (1,633)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Congrats on the new job, the track looked fab in the strava photo. Is there a plan B for D-Day now Galway is off?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Congrats on the new job, the track looked fab in the strava photo. Is there a plan B for D-Day now Galway is off?

    Cheers, AM, nice to have the track all right, even if only for a couple of weeks.

    It's Plan C we need as Galway was already Plan B - not sure yet. One or two options, but it looks like anything outside Dublin is just too risky to plan, as there's a possibility of travel restrictions. Might have to be a TT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭diego_b


    If you are looking at options, it's not a marathon but half of something might be better than nothing.

    Tralee Marathon fb page
    We are pleased to confirm that the deferred Tralee Summer Solstice Half Marathon will now go ahead on October 25th. Registration will re-open in the next few days. The following restrictions will be in place for the event:
    > For operational reasons only the Half will take place. The 10K will be deferred to a later date, entrants from the 10K will be transferred to the Half, or if they prefare to the new date for the 10K (date to be announced soon).
    > The event will be limited to 200 entrants in line with Athletics Ireland recommendations.
    > Strategies will be put in place to discourage spectators.
    > The race will start in 4 waves of 50 runners (socially distanced).
    > Participants will have their numbers posted out to them.
    > Start is on Basin Road, Tralee. Finish on Neil Armstrong Way Tralee.
    > Finisher Medals & Tech Tops for all Finishers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Cheers, AM, nice to have the track all right, even if only for a couple of weeks.

    It's Plan C we need as Galway was already Plan B - not sure yet. One or two options, but it looks like anything outside Dublin is just too risky to plan, as there's a possibility of travel restrictions. Might have to be a TT.

    Make Plan C a TT... at least then you have some control over it. You have built that fitness with consistency. Be a shame not to test it. Could be creative if a 42.2k TT is daunting or would involve a boring number of laps. Something new.. a 30k TT. You have been running 16k at your planned MP. The question I most asked myself during the plan was "can I really hold this for 16 more miles?" A 30-32k go at maintaining that pace after your 10 day taper would indicate a decent return for the work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Wasn't there a crew that ran mid week marathons for a while there, can't remember the name but low number turn outs, 2 lap course etc. I wonder if they are still operating? Probably not...

    TT sounds like your only option really given the ever changing situation, especially up there - you might be on level 5 before long! You've all put in a great bank of training to date, it would be a shame not to do something together in some way shape or form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Again, a TT is a waste of time, energy & everything else........


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭healy1835


    OOnegative wrote: »
    Again, a TT is a waste of time, energy & everything else........

    But what if there's a Beanie hat in the offing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Duanington


    healy1835 wrote: »
    But what if there's a Beanie hat in the offing?

    That changes things !


    Although, I have to say - I've no love for TTs myself either, I just don't see the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    I don't mind TTs as long as they are 5k or shorter. Preferably 3k or shorter. There's a Plan C hatching, depending on what happens in the next couple of weeks. For now, training continues!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 16 cont.

    Wed 16 Sep

    Rest. While I’ve definitely been feeling tired lately, the day off still gets me a bit antsy.

    Thu 17 Sep

    21.1k inc 16.1 @ MP (76% HRR)

    Second of the 10-mile MP sessions. I felt good on the way out the door, having checked resting HR just after waking - everything normal, despite the usual spotty sleep. Properly dark when I went out the door, but a pleasant morning with not much wind. Warmed up and started the MP at the usual spot, a little before the Baths. Was wearing ’The Shoes’ again today, and although the noise was annoying me (anyone remember Gerald McBoingBoing?) they seemed to be helping me cut through the gentle headwind nicely enough.

    Met Ferris coming back in the other direction at about 4.5 miles, so he must have only started a few minutes before me. No sign of KennyG this morning though. :( I just plodded through this one, lost in thought for most of it, and it felt like the route was eaten up in no time. I was keeping an eye on the watch, and while never more than a second or two off the pace, I tended to fall asleep the odd time and have to inject a little pace, including in the final km. Ferris joined me for the last couple of hundred metres, having completed his cooldown, and we had a little chat about the various options that might be open, or closed.

    The run was a good one - on target, consistent pace, low HR - an average of 162 this week, or 76% HRR, easily the lowest yet. There’s no doubt that the shoes make a difference

    This week: 49 kms (30 miles)
    This year: 2,649 (1,647)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,484 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Week 16 cont.

    Fri 18 Sep

    Rest. An unscheduled rest day, just to step back a little.

    Sat 19 Sep

    17.6k @ 5:38 (no HRM)

    An 8am meet-up with Ferris and FBOT. We did a circuit of St. Anne’s then headed out the coast, looping through Baldoyle and Balgriffin back to the Park. Great to have the company and the route was enjoyable too - the absence of a footpath on the backroad to Balgriffin kept us on our toes. Lots of new house/apartment construction encroaching on the cabbage fields of North County Dublin. Felt good on this one, and with FBOT in the group, I didn’t have to do much of the talking. ;)

    Sun 20 Sep

    20.7k with 16.1k steady @ 5:11 (71% HRR)

    As we are rewinding to week 14 next week in order to stretch the plan out to accommodate an alternative marathon possibility, I felt I could deviate from the scheduled 10 easy and make up for some of last week’s abandoned steady LR miles. I asked Garmin Connect to generate a route heading North at the outset, and I was intrigued to find it bringing me home from the airport via a road I don’t think I’ve ever even driven before, never mind negotiated on foot. Hence I discovered the delights of Stockhole Lane, an interesting stretch which had my HR up a few beats as I had to dodge traffic when the footpath ran out for a couple of miles. Interesting road, which contains among its landmarks hayfields, a couple of halting sites, and the HQ of the Athletic Union League, which brought back memories of being a left winger back in my football years (still a bit of a lefty, it has to be said). :) It’s always great to discover new parts of the city and its hinterland. It was also great to finally be going downhill after the long climb up the old airport road. Completed the 10 miles in the grounds of Beaumont Hospital, and jogged the rest of the way back to D3.

    Felt very strong this morning. I think having breakfast before this run definitely helped - most of the sessions and LRs to date have been done on empty.

    This week: 87 kms (54 miles).
    This year: 2,688 (1,670)


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