Things you didn't think of.

Faze11 · 18-10-2020 9:30am #1

Hi all.

Thought it might be valuable to get people's stories of the things they didn't think of designwise or otherwise when buying or moving into new house.

For me it was a new build I would have liked to have:
- Screwed down the floor boards before putting down carpet to prevent creaks.
- Looked at soundproofing mid floor
- Taken photos of cabling and ducting during build process.
- Put plugs on both sides of one of the small bedrooms
- Checked the quality/level of the garden and put on snag. (Was very uneven and poor quality)
- Not said "Ah no its grand" when electrician asked me if I wanted an outside plug.
- Looked at practicality of positioning of the sink and toilets

I'm sure there is loads more but that's a good start.

Everlong1 · 18-10-2020 9:57am

How to get furniture in through the front door.

I bought a terraced two - up two - down after only one viewing. The front door leads into a tiny porch with another door before you get into the living room. Before I actually moved in I bought and paid for a big DFS leather sofa. Only as I got closer to the delivery date for this thing did I realise that it might not actually fit in through the front door.

It didn't. In the end we had to take off the back door to the house and even then it just about squeezed through.

The other thing I didn't think of: I spent years living in flats and "studio apartments" i.e. glorified bedsits. After a few years in my house I began to realise that I didn't like the layout of the place -all those years living in flats had given me a taste for having everything on one level. Running up and down stairs is for the birds.

I should really have bought a bungalow or cottage. Planning on selling my house in the future and buying a one level place.

Everlong1 · 18-10-2020 10:00am

Just realised this thread is about new houses - mine wasn't new, sorry.

snorrie · 18-10-2020 10:15am

Everlong1 wrote: »

Just realised this thread is about new houses - mine wasn't new, sorry.

It was new to you and you may have redesigned parts of it prior to or upon moving in.

Anyway, I don't know if this would be "up to code" in Ireland, but living in apartments in other European countries, some rooms had a socket right next to the light switch beside the door. I found it very handy for plugging in the hoover, you didn't have to bend down or move any furniture to find a socket each time you moved to a different room.

If I were building a new house, I would definitely try to have that, as well as switches at the door that turn on/off lamps around the room.

JJJackal · 18-10-2020 10:49am

Faze11 wrote: »

Hi all.

Thought it might be valuable to get people's stories of the things they didn't think of designwise or otherwise when buying or moving into new house.

For me it was a new build I would have liked to have:
- Screwed down the floor boards before putting down carpet to prevent creaks.
- Looked at soundproofing mid floor
- Taken photos of cabling and ducting during build process.
- Put plugs on both sides of one of the small bedrooms
- Checked the quality/level of the garden and put on snag. (Was very uneven and poor quality)
- Not said "Ah no its grand" when electrician asked me if I wanted an outside plug.
- Looked at practicality of positioning of the sink and toilets

I'm sure there is loads more but that's a good start.

I knew I should have asked for an outside socket yesterday!

cubatahavana · 18-10-2020 12:00pm

Very useful thread. For me, when I bought the apartment years ago, I wish I would have put underfloor heating all over

poker--addict · 18-10-2020 12:12pm

Light in the hot press. Light in small storage space.

Plug and tv point over fire place.

Extra plugs beside bed- most houses end up with adaptor or extension lead.

Sensor lights out back/side.

dubrov · 18-10-2020 12:15pm

Network point in the hallway ceiling to add a wireless access point to

Caranica · 18-10-2020 12:56pm

Alarm control panel in the bedroom is a big one for me. Plus more sockets everywhere.

td2008 · 18-10-2020 1:13pm

Can you ask for extra sockets usually as part of the snagging process?

wench · 18-10-2020 1:14pm

Caranica wrote: »

Alarm control panel in the bedroom is a big one for me. Plus more sockets everywhere.

I got my house rewired when I moved in. Got 20 sockets in the living room, still not enough!!

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 18-10-2020 1:15pm

td2008 wrote: »

Can you ask for extra sockets usually as part of the snagging process?

No, far too late for that.

Shoden · 18-10-2020 1:39pm

What do you mean soundproofing midfloor?

Milena009 · 18-10-2020 1:45pm

cubatahavana wrote: »

Very useful thread. For me, when I bought the apartment years ago, I wish I would have put underfloor heating all over

I'm about to buy a new home from Glenveagh next year so just noting down the suggestions from here 😅
Highly good idea

yaboya1 · 18-10-2020 1:48pm

Faze11 wrote: »

- Not said "Ah no its grand" when electrician asked me if I wanted an outside plug.

Same in relation to when the plumber asked did I want an outside tap.

cubatahavana · 18-10-2020 2:25pm

yaboya1 wrote: »

Same in relation to when the plumber asked did I want an outside tap.

Buying a new build now. Nearly finished and I just realized that I never asked if there’s an outside tap/socket. Never lived in a house so it didn’t cross my mind. These and attic ladders are in my browser history today.

poker--addict · 18-10-2020 2:27pm

Attic ladder reminded me of attic flooring!

The misery and hassle of putting stuff in an attic which has no basic flooring!

Caranica · 18-10-2020 2:31pm

poker--addict wrote: »

Attic ladder reminded me of attic flooring!

The misery and hassle of putting stuff in an attic which has no basic flooring!

I recently got both added, plus a light and basic shelving. Wasn't a big deal to do so easily retrofitted unlike underfloor heating, sockets, taps etc

Claw Hammer · 18-10-2020 4:24pm

Putting the light switch to the attic on an LED switch, situated on the ceiling below the attic, beside the entrance hatch to the attic.

JJJackal · 18-10-2020 4:28pm

yaboya1 wrote: »

Same in relation to when the plumber asked did I want an outside tap.

An outside hot water tap is handy too! Especially if you have children who want to swim in a blow up pool

beauf · 18-10-2020 4:38pm

Run a cable for lights and power on a shed.
Make sure the outside stuff is correctly wired.
Network cable everywhere, and TV cable.

cubatahavana · 18-10-2020 4:42pm

JJJackal wrote: »

An outside hot water tap is handy too! Especially if you have children who want to swim in a blow up pool

Great idea

Faze11 · 18-10-2020 5:30pm

Caranica wrote: »

I recently got both added, plus a light and basic shelving. Wasn't a big deal to do so easily retrofitted unlike underfloor heating, sockets, taps etc

This is one that's on my list. Only thing is that because it's a new build insulation comes up very high and I think I need stilts to raise up floor. Wanted to do it myself. Anyone any idea where to get supllies.

Pete123456 · 18-10-2020 5:30pm

Can I please ask how much of what has been mentioned is “requestable” in a new build estate in the likes of Kildare or Dublin? Is it the case that you get what you’re given and only after you get the keys can you do extras?

Things like sockets, network cabling and outdoor power/tap appeal to me, but I assume the builder will only meet the brochure spec until it’s too late to fix? Or can you request all of these extras?

Faze11 · 18-10-2020 5:38pm

Pete123456 wrote: »

Can I please ask how much of what has been mentioned is “requestable” in a new build estate in the likes of Kildare or Dublin? Is it the case that you get what you’re given and only after you get the keys can you do extras?

Things like sockets, network cabling and outdoor power/tap appeal to me, but I assume the builder will only meet the brochure spec until it’s too late to fix? Or can you request all of these extras?

All really depends on the developer. We bought a new build and I got to speak to electrician for lighting and plugs, adding wherever I wanted. Also changed the kitchen door and opted for white instead of the standard brown house doors. Picked our own wardrobes - there was an allowance), and tiles/wooden floors.

A new estate by same developer is currently being built next to us. They were given far fewer options (probably learned from all my requests :-)

So it really depends on developer and only thing to do is ask.

Caranica · 18-10-2020 6:15pm

Faze11 wrote: »

This is one that's on my list. Only thing is that because it's a new build insulation comes up very high and I think I need stilts to raise up floor. Wanted to do it myself. Anyone any idea where to get supllies.

I had a builder in to do a few bits so he sourced everything.

Edgware · 18-10-2020 6:41pm

If a house an outside tap in the back is very useful

jrosen · 18-10-2020 6:55pm

New build.

We have lots of sockets but I wish I had have asked for more. In some rooms sockets make no sense in relation to were furniture/lamps fit so more sockets would have been a plus.

Wish I had have known about screws for the floor boards.

We have attic stairs but no flooring for storage, with the insulation high we need to try get someone for that.

I also wish I would have put way more pressure for additional tiling. Bathrooms are part tiled and we wanted them tiled more, builder said no problem but when we moved in it hadn't been done. We have been months now trying to get a tiler.

So my main thing I wish I did was realize that tradespeople who are reliable are like gold and if there is something you want done, even if its something you need to pay for you should strike while the iron is hot and the guys are on site.

Another thing, wood floor needs to acclimatize to the house so should be delivered before fitting

cubatahavana · 18-10-2020 7:16pm

Pete123456 wrote: »

Can I please ask how much of what has been mentioned is “requestable” in a new build estate in the likes of Kildare or Dublin? Is it the case that you get what you’re given and only after you get the keys can you do extras?

Things like sockets, network cabling and outdoor power/tap appeal to me, but I assume the builder will only meet the brochure spec until it’s too late to fix? Or can you request all of these extras?

I asked an extra socket on the kitchen island and was told no problem. Will ask about the outside tap and socket next week, before they install the kitchen

sparkledrum · 18-10-2020 7:17pm

Adequate sized radiators and enough of them, especially in living room.

18-10-2020 7:34pm

I got an outdoor tap, and an outdoor socket installed in the last two years (two different tradesmen, obviously). Socket was practically going "back to back" with one that was indoors (but on an external wall). I picked up the socket itself on Amazon. Electrician charged me, I believe €50 to wire it/install it.

It being back to back with the other one inside made it easy as he just drilled the wall and ran a wire straight out. Would obviously cost more if you need plastering etc. done to tidy up a wall that has been chased.

I've two outdoor taps, one that's "back to back" with a sink, and another that has a pipe tee'ed off from the sink, and ran to an external wall, about 6ft away (the pipe runs behind the kitchen cabinets). Both taps were done by different people, but both cost the same to install, oddly enough (€80).

Just posting this as, although annoying to have to do them, these are jobs that aren't going to break the bank, so no need to get overly worried if you've forgotten them.

JJJackal wrote: »

An outside hot water tap is handy too! Especially if you have children who want to swim in a blow up pool

I want one of those too, for cleaning the car, but I read online somewhere in the past that you need a special hose to take the hot water? Apparently a "normal" hose will split or crack? Dunno how true that is, but I like the idea of a hot water tap outside.

sparkledrum wrote: »

Adequate sized radiators and enough of them, especially in living room.

I'd also agree with this. You don't need a million radiators in the house, but make sure you get ones big enough, and no matter what the plumber tells you, or what you read online, never, never, never install a single panel radiator. They're the greatest waste of time. I've had 3 and I've replaced them all with doubles.

You can turn down the heat on a double panel if it's too warm, but you can't turn up the heat on a single panel if it's too cold.

18-10-2020 7:59pm

My own tips and advice:

Make sure you always use washable paint. Incredibly annoying to wipe a stain on a wall and have the paint come off with it. Especially if in any rooms with regular use (kitchen, etc.).

Measure the rooms and draw the floor plan on a notepad, bring it with you if you're going shopping for furniture, and make sure you measure everything you're buying.

As with above, measure the sofa. No.. don't just eyeball it.. measure it! I delivered sofas in the past and the amount of times "it looked a bit smaller on the shop floor" was muttered. I've seen sofas completely swallow up whole rooms. Big open spacious sitting rooms quickly become a cramped obstacle course because Mary needed the biggest corner sofa in the shop.

I've seen the same Respa Backcare Supreme Mattress (amazing mattress, by the way) sell for €399 and €799 in two different shops at the same time. Go walkies and check all your local stores.

Let your laminate floor acclimate. Even if the heating hasn't been turned on in the house yet, still let it sit there for two days. Yeah it's getting in the way, and it's a pain, but it's worth it. If it's going on top of a concrete floor, spend the extra on the foil-back underlay. Don't say you weren't warned.

Speaking of flooring, anecdotal here, but, 12mm or 7mm doesn't really make much difference in my experience. I got an extension onto my house, and as part of it did the whole ground floor with 12mm laminate. Then I converted my concrete shed to a 'garden room' and didn't want to spend the same amount, but wanted a similar, matching look. Opted for cheapo 7mm stuff off donedeal. Both installed properly (by me!) and you wouldn't know which was which. I felt a bit conned after paying for the 12mm stuff when I seen how the 7mm looked/sounded. Neither have chipped and both see similar usage.

A ceiling fan isn't a stupid idea! It's a brilliant idea. Don't be talked out of it like I was. "But sure it's ireland lol lol what summer hardyharhar". They're a great way of cooling a room, and in Ireland we tend to go from one extreme to the other with temperature.

I'm not overly clued into the new fangled ways of heating houses, but if it's a typical boiler set up, spend the few euro extra and ask for a Combi Boiler (assuming half decent water pressure in your area). You'll love it, and never go back. Immersion me hole.

Check for your furniture online. Many shops carry the same thing as each other, but sometimes use different names. I saved a few Euro on a table/chairs, because Harvey Norman had them, but HomelineFurniture.ie had them too (albeit with a different name). Harvey's price matched.

This assumes a 'traditional house' layout - haven't done this myself, but seen it done in the US - Consider sticking your utility room (including a washing machine and dryer) upstairs. You'll be getting naked upstairs for the most part, showering upstairs.. why bring your clothes downstairs to clean them, and then carry them back upstairs again? Makes no sense. Washing machine and dryer upstairs is much more logical (unless you are a committed clothesline owner).

If you're measuring your tiles, patio slabs or laminate floor, etc. always make sure you inflate the size of the area a little, so you end up with too many tiles/slabs. Better to be looking at it, than looking for it, as they say.

Personal preference - consider a shower panel. I love mine. We have three bathrooms. Two were renovated in the last 3 years, and got panels (two different types, albeit similar). Last bathroom will be done next year I'd say, and will be getting a shower panel. They're great, and easy to install, so your plumber shouldn't give you any needless grief. You need decent water pressure or a pump, though (mine is just ran off the combi boiler/from the mains).

Those flexible taps with the hose in them, so you can spray water wherever you like - Do you really need it? Honestly? They're a great novelty, but although I never had one myself, anyone i know who has had one, has had it leak on them. I was originally planning to get one when re-doing the kitchen 3 years back, and my plumber said he'd happily install it, but wouldn't recommend them. Seems he was right.

Sorry.. Enough of my rambling..

18-10-2020 8:09pm

Sorry - one last thing - If you get a tradesman out to your house, to install something that requires a wire (Sky, Virgin, TV Aerial, etc.) make sure that where they drill into the house, the wire 'droops down' below the hole they drilled, before it enters the house.

Condensation and rain will cause water to run down the wire. If the lowest point of the wire is the hole where it enters your house, you're more likely to get water penetration/dampness, etc. whereas if the wire droops down lower than the hole, in a U shape, the water will drip off onto the ground.

This should be obvious to anyone that has ever done this kind of work, but having seen 'professional' installs done ass-ways, I figure it best to say it.

cubatahavana · 18-10-2020 8:37pm

About combi boilers, I’ve lived in apartments with them all my life and are amazing, but for bigger houses, where you need maybe hot water in 2-3 taps at the same time, a water tank would be needed. Nowadays looks like the water tanks are amazing in term of insulation. Is this what an immersion tank is?

tvjunki · 18-10-2020 8:38pm

Put the foundation in for a shed If you do not have the funds now or build a shed. If there are no garden walls or picket fences pay to get the garden walls built. Less mess and cheaper in the long run. Plenty of double sockets in the kitchen.

enricoh · 18-10-2020 9:35pm

Did a house revamp and decent sized extension a few years ago, when I was building a neighbour said to put 3/4" pipes instead of 1/2" .

I was sick of everyone's advice at that stage, I regret not listening everytime I'm in the shower and someone flushes the jacks or uses the sink!

DM1983 · 18-10-2020 9:53pm

enricoh wrote: »

Did a house revamp and decent sized extension a few years ago, when I was building a neighbour said to put 3/4" pipes instead of 1/2" .

I was sick of everyone's advice at that stage, I regret not listening everytime I'm in the shower and someone flushes the jacks or uses the sink!

Presume this references loss of pressure. Simple solution is to have a dedicated line from hot water tank to shower with a high pressure pump on it. Otherwise you need an expensive variable pressure pump that ramps up and down as needed. Former is better option for a retrofit.

witchgirl26 · 19-10-2020 9:19am

Pete123456 wrote: »

Can I please ask how much of what has been mentioned is “requestable” in a new build estate in the likes of Kildare or Dublin? Is it the case that you get what you’re given and only after you get the keys can you do extras?

Things like sockets, network cabling and outdoor power/tap appeal to me, but I assume the builder will only meet the brochure spec until it’s too late to fix? Or can you request all of these extras?

We bought a new build in Dublin 2.5 years ago. As part of the initial process of picking the tiles that were included etc, we could ask for extra sockets & indicate them on a layout of the house. Now it cost per socket to put in but was worth it to have it done. Really wish we'd even put in more.

We didn't get an outside socket done at the time but got one done since and it wasn't too bad. Could have just got lucky with the layout of the house and where the board is and where we were looking to put the outside socket.

awec · 19-10-2020 9:48am

Deleted User wrote: »

My own tips and advice:

Make sure you always use washable paint. Incredibly annoying to wipe a stain on a wall and have the paint come off with it. Especially if in any rooms with regular use (kitchen, etc.).

Measure the rooms and draw the floor plan on a notepad, bring it with you if you're going shopping for furniture, and make sure you measure everything you're buying.

As with above, measure the sofa. No.. don't just eyeball it.. measure it! I delivered sofas in the past and the amount of times "it looked a bit smaller on the shop floor" was muttered. I've seen sofas completely swallow up whole rooms. Big open spacious sitting rooms quickly become a cramped obstacle course because Mary needed the biggest corner sofa in the shop.

I've seen the same Respa Backcare Supreme Mattress (amazing mattress, by the way) sell for €399 and €799 in two different shops at the same time. Go walkies and check all your local stores.

Let your laminate floor acclimate. Even if the heating hasn't been turned on in the house yet, still let it sit there for two days. Yeah it's getting in the way, and it's a pain, but it's worth it. If it's going on top of a concrete floor, spend the extra on the foil-back underlay. Don't say you weren't warned.

Speaking of flooring, anecdotal here, but, 12mm or 7mm doesn't really make much difference in my experience. I got an extension onto my house, and as part of it did the whole ground floor with 12mm laminate. Then I converted my concrete shed to a 'garden room' and didn't want to spend the same amount, but wanted a similar, matching look. Opted for cheapo 7mm stuff off donedeal. Both installed properly (by me!) and you wouldn't know which was which. I felt a bit conned after paying for the 12mm stuff when I seen how the 7mm looked/sounded. Neither have chipped and both see similar usage.

A ceiling fan isn't a stupid idea! It's a brilliant idea. Don't be talked out of it like I was. "But sure it's ireland lol lol what summer hardyharhar". They're a great way of cooling a room, and in Ireland we tend to go from one extreme to the other with temperature.

I'm not overly clued into the new fangled ways of heating houses, but if it's a typical boiler set up, spend the few euro extra and ask for a Combi Boiler (assuming half decent water pressure in your area). You'll love it, and never go back. Immersion me hole.

Check for your furniture online. Many shops carry the same thing as each other, but sometimes use different names. I saved a few Euro on a table/chairs, because Harvey Norman had them, but HomelineFurniture.ie had them too (albeit with a different name). Harvey's price matched.

This assumes a 'traditional house' layout - haven't done this myself, but seen it done in the US - Consider sticking your utility room (including a washing machine and dryer) upstairs. You'll be getting naked upstairs for the most part, showering upstairs.. why bring your clothes downstairs to clean them, and then carry them back upstairs again? Makes no sense. Washing machine and dryer upstairs is much more logical (unless you are a committed clothesline owner).

If you're measuring your tiles, patio slabs or laminate floor, etc. always make sure you inflate the size of the area a little, so you end up with too many tiles/slabs. Better to be looking at it, than looking for it, as they say.

Personal preference - consider a shower panel. I love mine. We have three bathrooms. Two were renovated in the last 3 years, and got panels (two different types, albeit similar). Last bathroom will be done next year I'd say, and will be getting a shower panel. They're great, and easy to install, so your plumber shouldn't give you any needless grief. You need decent water pressure or a pump, though (mine is just ran off the combi boiler/from the mains).

Those flexible taps with the hose in them, so you can spray water wherever you like - Do you really need it? Honestly? They're a great novelty, but although I never had one myself, anyone i know who has had one, has had it leak on them. I was originally planning to get one when re-doing the kitchen 3 years back, and my plumber said he'd happily install it, but wouldn't recommend them. Seems he was right.

Sorry.. Enough of my rambling..

1. A ceiling fan is basically just a light fitting. New houses come with basic ceiling roses. There is nothing stopping you putting up a ceiling fan after, apart from the fact that they are incredibly fugly and will cheapen the look of any room they are in.

2. Do not put your utility room upstairs unless all you want to do is listen to the sound of your washing machine vibrate throughout the house. You might get away with it if you have hollowcore flooring upstairs, but you will have to carry wet washing downstairs to hang it out anyway.

3. Combi boilers are not generally used in larger houses because they are not a good system when more than one hot water source is being used at once.

awec · 19-10-2020 9:50am

cubatahavana wrote: »

About combi boilers, I’ve lived in apartments with them all my life and are amazing, but for bigger houses, where you need maybe hot water in 2-3 taps at the same time, a water tank would be needed. Nowadays looks like the water tanks are amazing in term of insulation. Is this what an immersion tank is?

A house will have a hot water tank, because combi boilers do not cope well providing hot water on demand to multiple places at once.

An immersion is a heating element in your hot water tank, that heats the water using electricity. It is a relatively expensive way to heat water. Your house may come with an immersion, but it will not be the primary way of heating water. If you are buying a new house you will have some renewable way of getting hot water.

Tanks are good at retaining heat these days, yes.

Caranica · 19-10-2020 10:20am

awec wrote: »

2. Do not put your utility room upstairs unless all you want to do is listen to the sound of your washing machine vibrate throughout the house. You might get away with it if you have hollowcore flooring upstairs, but you will have to carry wet washing downstairs to hang it out anyway. .

Best option is to put in a chute upstairs to drop stuff straight into a laundry basket in the utility. Won't work with every house but where possible.

Gumbo · 19-10-2020 12:47pm

Caranica wrote: »

Best option is to put in a chute upstairs to drop stuff straight into a laundry basket in the utility. Won't work with every house but where possible.

Your now into fire proofing a shaft that moves between floors.
Messy solution that should be avoided.

19-10-2020 1:02pm

awec wrote: »

1. A ceiling fan is basically just a light fitting. New houses come with basic ceiling roses. There is nothing stopping you putting up a ceiling fan after, apart from the fact that they are incredibly fugly and will cheapen the look of any room they are in.

I do see what you mean, but I think they're the kind of light fitting that should be planned in advance. Just firing them in where a pre-existing light was generally will look sh/te. I had planned a space for mine between two light fittings on the extended part of the house (slightly taller ceiling).

I think they look fine, unless you buy one that draws attention to itself. My kitchen is white, ceilings are white and a white fan would be grand and barely noticeable. I wouldn't just randomly hang a bamboo-styled one, slightly off centered in my sitting room though, because that's where the light was.

2. Do not put your utility room upstairs unless all you want to do is listen to the sound of your washing machine vibrate throughout the house. You might get away with it if you have hollowcore flooring upstairs, but you will have to carry wet washing downstairs to hang it out anyway.

I'll admit I've never actually done this, but I don't recall it being mentioned as an issue. Albeit, i seen it in the US where the houses are generally large, and i did mention they'd be no use if you're using a clothesline. For me, I'd do the utility upstairs it if i was building a house tomorrow, though.

3. Combi boilers are not generally used in larger houses because they are not a good system when more than one hot water source is being used at once.

If you mean in terms of getting hot water to several sources, I'd disagree. If you mean in terms of water pressure, I'd agree.

Our house is fed off the mains, so the water pressure is amazing when you use a single source at once (ie; get a shower). However, if the water is then turned on somewhere else (someone starts washing plates in the kitchen sink) the water pressure will effectively half, as it's being split in two.

It's still entirely usable, though. It does suffer if a third source is turned on, to the extent that no user is getting worthwhile pressure, however two users at the same time is fine. That said, this again likely depends fairly heavily on what your pressure is like to begin with. We are straight off the mains with no pumps or anything along the way.

jrosen · 19-10-2020 2:04pm

New houses in naas, longstone have their laundry room upstairs.

iColdFusion · 19-10-2020 3:12pm

awec wrote: »

1. A ceiling fan is basically just a light fitting. New houses come with basic ceiling roses. There is nothing stopping you putting up a ceiling fan after, apart from the fact that they are incredibly fugly and will cheapen the look of any room they are in.

2. Do not put your utility room upstairs unless all you want to do is listen to the sound of your washing machine vibrate throughout the house. You might get away with it if you have hollowcore flooring upstairs, but you will have to carry wet washing downstairs to hang it out anyway.

3. Combi boilers are not generally used in larger houses because they are not a good system when more than one hot water source is being used at once.

High risk of your GF ceilings cracking with washing machine & dryer upstairs unless you really go to town with vibration isolation.
Also if you can get them in a utility downstairs you might be able to run them on night rate while also being able to sleep.
And you have to get those two large pieces of equipment upstairs :pac:

Shedite27 · 19-10-2020 4:50pm

We were another new build.

+1 on the creaky floorboards, we didn't do this and regret it.

Trying to think the layout of your rooms in advance and they can accommodate sockets being moved around during the build. We paid a little extra for the sockets with USB ports in them, very handy in the modern world.

On the layout of the rooms, we had to get our overhead light moved when we realised where the kitchen table went, so again, plan in advance if ya can.

We got an "A-ring" put in too, means we can control lamps from the switches as you enter the room

And if you're in the estate early, get to know the builders, they all will be keen to make some extra money after work, handy if you need to get any electronics or construction fixes done once you've moved in.

JustAThought · 19-10-2020 5:31pm

I would definately not buy somewhere that had a ‘management company’ - they are mostly beyone the law builders & their croony wifes and children and are a endless source of frustration , worry & problems.

Don’t buy where there is no driveway for all your cars - or where there is communal or allocated per house parking - it and residental clamping on estates is becoming a big issue and big business.

Try to buy a bathroom with a window in it! You will eventually yearn for one and airing out an bathroom by opening windows fron and back of the house will over time become a breezy and expensive (in the winter) business. I have relly good expelair system but sometimes you just want to open a window - especially if you have guests or a party!!!

Cook on gas! Its brilliant and better IMO!

Try and buy a place with a side passageway ( or garage!) as bikes and bins will go through your house but you will have to do a lot mire floor mopping and have to replace your floors a few years earlier or re-grout your tiling - annoying if avoidable!

Open plan is very on-trend but when I use my open plan space the bills go up by at least 30% as it is a massive space to heat. Bi-monthly bills change from e200 is in the winter to at least e350. ouch.

Buy as large rooms as you can afford - you will fill them up! Especially bedrooms - too many knee to the wall double rooms with small wardrobe space - it will wear you out and make your night life and early mornings a chore.

Tulleys in Dublin sell bare root trees and bushes and you can buy and have delivered trees to your garden - don’t let a barren new estate garden put you off having instant privacy. Money invested in privacy is well spent. You can buy 20 or 30
foot grown tree and have an end to nosey neighbours or people peering out their windows into your house. You won’t ever regret that grand or few grand spent.

Plant your trees away enough from your wall that you neighbour shouldn’t be able to just cut away branches under the guise of them growing over their boundary wall - leave it in about 5 or 6 foot!

Storage storage storage!!!

Buy good stuff and buy only once - don’t live in flatpack collapsable disasters you’re afraid to move in case they come apart!

Ask for a discount everywhere you shop. All retailers have discretionary discount they can give to their family/ friends/ etc - I saved thousands in outfitting the whole house by being shameless & having a brass neck! .. I’m interested in that but can you do a better price, is there a discount on that?

Don’t clutter up your kitchen surfaces or storage with all gadgets! All those waffle makers/spagetti makers/no fat friers for only a handful of chips/ steam cookeds and rice makers belong in the charity store - not in your kitchen storage !!!

Spend well on appliances - people love it when they come over or to re-sell or rent - the extra few hundred you save will disappear quickly from your pocket but the branding & quality will last decades and stand you you over time.

No buy beside or alongside social and affordable if at all possible. It only takes one or two problem families to ruin a neighbourhood.

Don’t buy beside apartments as their visitor car parking will slowly drive you insane and their bulk probably will affect or block out the light Nd privacy in your garden.

South facing rents and sells on well and will save you a fortune in heat bills over the years! (And make your world a warm sunny place!)

Check out your neighbours and neighbourhood carefully before you commit.

Try and do a land registry check before you go to contract and before you commit - if you are spending tens of thousands extra on an address you need to be sure it is correct. Google maps use electoral areas often and estate agents straight up lie as standard procedure. They are not your friends and they work on commission.

awec · 19-10-2020 5:44pm

Planting 20 / 30 foot trees in your garden of your brand new development as soon as you move in is an excellent and effective way to make all your new neighbours think you're a dick.

DoozerT6 · 19-10-2020 6:41pm

I'd also echo (no pun intended) the points about soundproofing as much as possible between ground floor and first floor etc. If buying new and visiting the showhouse, check out the noise transfer between upstairs and downstairs - ask someone to walk around upstairs normally, while you walk around carry on a normal noise-level conversation downstairs. Turn on a TV or radio to average volume if possible. Both of you should check how well you hear the other. My parents bought a new house and the sound transfer is horrendous. If you breathe too loudly in the sitting room, you can hear it in the bedroom directly above (well just about lol) and vice versa.

EVGR · 20-10-2020 2:36pm

Get electricity points for under counter lights in the kitchen!

cubatahavana · 22-10-2020 9:39pm

EVGR wrote: »

Get electricity points for under counter lights in the kitchen!

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