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New york death record

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  • 28-07-2018 5:15pm
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    cosanostra
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    Hi,

    I'm having trouble getting a death record for an Aunt who emigrated to NYC in the early 1900 I have her in all the census records up to 1940, I have her Naturalization and Marriage records but I can't get her ( or her husband's) death record or find a grave result. I know she returned to Ireland in 1955 to get her affairs in order and I have a record of her return to New york, I can't find her husband and no anecdotal evidence he returned with her on this trip so I'm assuming he passed away before this but still keeping an open mind. I know my family received a will around 1960 but no paperwork to back this up so i'm not sure if it was an official will or cash was just distributed.

    So the window im looking at is 1955-1960/61 but not sure where to start in trying to get this from birth marriages and deaths in new york, online avenues seem to be a dead end due to data protection, so does anyone have any advice on how to go about this?


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    Alan259
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    Does she appear in either of these two databases?

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61535

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61668

    Hope this helps. :)


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    Coolnabacky1873
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    Very difficult to get a death records from New York City after 1948 as they are administered by the City Dept of Health and they have very limited access laws.

    What borough did they live in as that will have a big bearing on the cemetery they are buried in?

    The two databases linked to above are for New York State. New York City has it's own, separate system for vital records.


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    KildareFan
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    The Social Security Death Index accessible on ancestry may help https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693


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    cosanostra
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    Coolnabacky1873 wrote: »
    Very difficult to get a death records from New York City after 1948 as they are administered by the City Dept of Health and they have very limited access laws.

    What borough did they live in as that will have a big bearing on the cemetery they are buried in?

    The two databases linked to above are for New York State. New York City has it's own, separate system for vital records.

    They were in St Albans in Queens, I have exhausted Ancestry search etc I got a couple far out chances on find a grave but i'm waiting for some volunteers getting back with photos of the headstone to confirm but to be honest i don't have much hope on them being the correct graves but would be good to eliminate them.

    Is it possible to get the records from dept of health what's the process


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    Coolnabacky1873
    Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Coolnabacky1873


    cosanostra wrote: »
    Is it possible to get the records from dept of health what's the process

    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/services/death-certificates.page

    If they were Catholic and died in Queens then it's likely they were buried in Calvary Cemetery. Queens is in the Diocese of Brooklyn and they have an online search facility for their other cemeteries: http://www.ccbklyn.org/information-news/locate-a-loved-one/
    Calvary Cemetery usually charge a lot just to release a list of names buried in a plot, it typically starts at $90. Of course, it'll be dificult for them to do a search for you without at least a year of death http://www.ccbklyn.org/our-cemeteries/holy-cross-cemetery/

    Do try KildareFan's suggestion above.

    Newspapers and probate records are probably your best bet to try and get a date of death. Probate records are open to the public to the present day. Familysearch has digitised Queens probate records up to 1950 but the database is not indexed https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1916211
    You'll likely need to contact the Surrogate's Court in Queens. There is an email address on the page for enquiries about probate records and they may be able to help you if you give them the names of your relatives https://www.nycourts.gov/courts/11jd/surrogates/

    The Brooklyn Eagle newspaper often reported on deaths in Queens and is digitised up to 1955 https://bklyn.newspapers.com/

    EDIT: Sorry, just saw again the years you are looking for and some of my suggestions won't be helpful.


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    VirginiaB
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    A group called Reclaim the Records has been suing NYC successfully about releasing various records.  A death index for the five boroughs of NYC, including Queens, was released and is on Ancestry and maybe elsewhere.  Ancestry calls it 'New York, New York Death Index, 1949-1965'.  This is a bit misleading as NY NY means only Manhattan.
    This was done fast by volunteers so be generous in casting your net for spelling of the name.
    Also, Queens is in the Diocese of Brooklyn, spun off from the Archdiocese of New York about 1850.  Calvary is the cemetery for the Archdiocese of NY. If you have a date of death or burial, you can get the info about burial, grave location free with a phone call or letter. 
    The Diocese of Brooklyn cemeteries--  main one is Holy Cross in Brooklyn but for your aunt, who was comparatively recent, her burial might be in St John's.  As mentioned previously, the diocese's free site, 'locatealovedone' has digitized many burials but far from all.  That's where I'd start.
    If she moved from St Albans, Queens, she might be in the nearby Diocese of Rockville Centre, founded 1957, which has its own cemeteries. This covers Nassau and Suffolk counties on Long Island and has a large Irish Catholic population.


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