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Sean O'Rourke Today Show

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  • #6102
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Rick O'Shea currently discussing books, while over on RTE Gold his show is on robo-jock with pre-recorded links !!
    I like Rick but he has a fairly cushy permanent job on RTE.


  • #6103
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    pc7 wrote: »
    Such a sad interview with Charlie Redmond, Sean handled it very well. So young to go like that.

    Missed it, what's wrong?


  • #6104
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,062 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Missed it, what's wrong?

    Talking about his wife Grainne, who he lost at a tragically young age. Hard to listen to.


  • #6105
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Any chance if we have to source medicines from non-english speaking countries we might get them at the price non-English speaking countries prices ... no, didn't think so


  • #6106
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Talking about his wife Grainne, who he lost at a tragically young age. Hard to listen to.
    Maybe one of the most emotional interviews I've heard this year. Can well understand why it was pre-recorded, can't understand how O'Rourke held it together.

    Real 'stay sitting in the car' radio.


  • #6107
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Ireland does misery porn so well .

    Joe Duffy has made a career out of it .


  • #6108
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    there is not enough room for 8km of trucks

    this is going to be a disaster:eek:


  • #6109
    DoctorEdgeWild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    The chap who was just on from the farm strike was the slipperiest speaker I've ever heard. Could hear Sean getting frustrated at his lack of clarity.


  • #6110
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »
    The chap who was just on from the farm strike was the slipperiest speaker I've ever heard. Could hear Sean getting frustrated at his lack of clarity.

    Interviewee constantly saying " if..if..if.."...."in....in..in" etc.


  • #6111
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »
    The chap who was just on from the farm strike was the slipperiest speaker I've ever heard. Could hear Sean getting frustrated at his lack of clarity.


    I'd say he is just a regular guy who has found himself nominated as spokesperson and has not been coached by the usual PR/Communications skills operators.


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  • #6112
    DoctorEdgeWild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Interviewee constantly saying " if..if..if.."...."in....in..in" etc.
    Funny how it used to be the best speakers who got the job as spokespeople, now it's the very opposite. Say as much as possible without saying anything.


  • #6113
    DoctorEdgeWild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Callan57 wrote: »
    I'd say he is just a regular guy who has found himself nominated as spokesperson and has not been coached by the usual PR/Communications skills operators.

    I'm a regular guy, I'm capable of answering direct questions. I might stutter or be nervous on the radio but not to the extent of avoiding questions at every turn.


  • #6114
    serfboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,721 ✭✭✭serfboard


    David Horgan, MD of Petrel Resources on RTE again.

    A man who makes his money from fossil fuels talking about the "Green Industrial Complex".

    Puke.


  • #6115
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Sounds like he'll be right at home in the "Greta's Gonna Steal Muh Diesel SUV" circlejerk elsewhere on Boards.


  • #6116
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,741 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    serfboard wrote: »
    David Horgan, MD of Petrel Resources on RTE again.

    A man who makes his money from fossil fuels talking about the "Green Industrial Complex".

    Puke.

    Stormy Petrel is he?


  • #6117
    jeremyj1968
    Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    Man talking complete sense. Colm O'Gorman wont like that.


  • #6118
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,265 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Racist old xenophobe caught out on his Ireland 'flooded' by refugees claims.

    They could move all his homeless friends into his parish, as long as they are white.


  • #6119
    jeremyj1968
    Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    A lecture on human rights from a man hold advocated for abortion.


  • #6120
    jay0109
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    jeremyj1968 wrote: »
    A lecture on human rights from a man hold advocated for abortion.

    Amnesty don't do irony but if they did...


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  • #6121
    dulpit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,434 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    jeremyj1968 wrote: »
    A lecture on human rights from a man hold advocated for abortion.

    The UN also say that access to abortion is a human right. https://reproductiverights.org/press-room/un-human-rights-committee-asserts-access-abortion-and-prevention-maternal-mortality-are


  • #6122
    jay0109
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Oh well, if the UN say it....


  • #6123
    dulpit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,434 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    jay0109 wrote: »
    Oh well, if the UN say it....

    Is there anyone you'd trust? Obviously you can have a personal belief that differs from the consensus, but you still need allow for the fact that your belief is the minority, no?


  • #6124
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dulpit wrote: »
    Is there anyone you'd trust? Obviously you can have a personal belief that differs from the consensus, but you still need allow for the fact that your belief is the minority, no?
    What's even more interesting, I think, is that the Committee which affirmed access to abortion as a human right also comprises religious scholars (of course, the underlying prerequisite for membership is to be an expert in human rights law, some members just happen to be religious experts also).

    These Committee members operate on the basis of hundreds of submissions made by other legal and medical experts, philosophers, ethicists and, of course, advocates for and against women's rights to control their bodies.

    It's the Athenian Forum of the contemporary era. And whilst of course nobody can shirk their own responsibility to form an opinion, that opinion should at least be informed by, among others, human rights experts. Like the UN Human Rights Committee.

    Looking at the current membership, it's interesting to observe that most of them come from countries that retain a strong public adherence to one or other of the Abrahamic religions.

    https://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/CCPR/Pages/Membership.aspx


  • #6125
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Richard Dawkins was on the show on Friday, Podcast not available yet, and the listen back option on the website just gives me the live stream, anyone know where else I could source this ?


  • #6126
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    serfboard wrote: »
    David Horgan, MD of Petrel Resources on RTE again.

    A man who makes his money from fossil fuels talking about the "Green Industrial Complex".

    Puke.

    Was on Radio again this morning, think it may have been Breakfast on NT debating with Boyd Barrett. Im sure at one stage he sneeringly mentioned People Before Prosecco? Anyone else hear this or am i imagining things? :confused:


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  • #6127
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,741 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Was on Radio again this morning, think it may have been Breakfast on NT debating with Boyd Barrett. Im sure at one stage he sneeringly mentioned People Before Prosecco? Anyone else hear this or am i imagining things? :confused:

    Not too far off the mark there, surely.


  • #6128
    sligojoek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Or Richard Void Barrett, as I call him.


  • #6129
    serfboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,721 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Not too far off the mark there, surely.
    How so?


  • #6130
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    I think Ryan Tubridy was telling the listeners to "Buy Irish" the other day Sean, maybe you should patch him in on the conversation.


  • #6131
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Did she not take her child into account when he decided to sell their family to Lidl to promote them for money, when Lidl are wiping out all the indigenous Irish family shops and helping to kill off town centres? She should never have been abused of course, but I think she was extremely naive. My brother wont even put a private video of his son on youtube, but she chose to put her family up on a poster for a foreign supermarket.


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  • #6132
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    generalgerry wrote: »
    Did she not take her child into account when he decided to sell their family to Lidl to promote them for money, when Lidl are wiping out all the indigenous Irish family shops and helping to kill off town centres? She should never have been abused of course, but I think she was extremely naive. My brother wont even put a private video of his son on youtube, but she chose to put her family up on a poster for a foreign supermarket.


    Started long before Lidl/Aldi arrived on our shores ... we have only our own selfish, shortsighted decisions to blame for the death of town centres.


  • #6133
    [Deleted User]
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    generalgerry wrote: »
    Did she not take her child into account when he decided to sell their family to Lidl to promote them for money, when Lidl are wiping out all the indigenous Irish family shops and helping to kill off town centres? She should never have been abused of course, but I think she was extremely naive. My brother wont even put a private video of his son on youtube, but she chose to put her family up on a poster for a foreign supermarket.

    So what? There is no way that the disgraceful reaction is acceptable. Simply put, it ain't. "Foreign super market" = xenophobic comment. I'm not Irish but have lived here a long time. That, to me, sounds like the despicable "No Irish, no Blacks, no dogs"


  • #6134
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,741 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    serfboard wrote: »
    How so?

    How so what?


  • #6135
    serfboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,721 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    How so what?
    How so is it "Not too far off the mark"?


  • #6136
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,741 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    serfboard wrote: »
    How so is it "Not too far off the mark"?

    Current developments, dude.


  • #6137
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    generalgerry wrote: »
    Did she not take her child into account when he decided to sell their family to Lidl to promote them for money, when Lidl are wiping out all the indigenous Irish family shops and helping to kill off town centres? She should never have been abused of course, but I think she was extremely naive. My brother wont even put a private video of his son on youtube, but she chose to put her family up on a poster for a foreign supermarket.
    This is straight out of the Gemma O'Doherty playbook.

    People are not angry because Lidl is alledgedly undercutting other retailers. People are angry because Gemma O'Doherty and others have targeted this family simply because they dislike the idea of a black/ mixed race person being part of a family called "The Ryans".

    It's pathetic, and no, I don't think anybody could have anticipated that kind of reaction. We are surrounded by visual advertisements, and almost none are controversial. I can't remember any such ad, in recent times, causing this kind of racist overreaction.


  • #6138
    sligojoek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Lidl got hammered a few years ago for having all men in their ads for tools and DIY. Now they have "lovely girls" in hi-viz jackets and helmets brandishing cordless drills. Men ironing clothes.
    They can't win.


  • #6139
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Lidl got hammered a few years ago for having all men in their ads for tools and DIY. Now they have "lovely girls" in hi-viz jackets and helmets brandishing cordless drills. Men ironing clothes.
    They can't win.


    But at least their adverts are being closely watched ... no such thing as bad publicity! :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #6140
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    People are not angry because Lidl is alledgedly undercutting other retailers. People are angry because Gemma O'Doherty and others have targeted this family simply because they dislike the idea of a black/ mixed race person being part of a family called "The Ryans".

    I think it was silly of O'Doherty to conflate the two issues. i.e. multiculturalism and the influx of mass numbers of migrants, and multinational companies killing Irish business. For a journalist, Gemma makes her points extremely clumsily. The multicultural "Ryans" reference does not really make any sense, as the woman is Irish. But the second point on buying Irish is something that I hear Ryan Tubridy advocating every week on his show. So RTE would want to have a word with their own staff if they have a problem with somebody saying that they should "buy Irish".

    And Fiona Ryan is a professional actress, look on youtube and you will see clips of her in UK Shows. This was just another acting job for her. She didn't happen to call down to Aldi for a 0.10 cent loaf of bread and a 5 euro chainsaw, and they happened to have the cameras turned on. She chose to put her family on the poster advocating for a German retailer for money. It was to be expected that there may be backlash from those more supportive of Irish businesses. NOT on a race basis, but on the basis that she is advocating for a foreign company.

    It's just stupid to put any media of your family up on any form of media anyway, but this question would never be made on RTE, as they wanted to focus on the race issue.


  • #6141
    Ahwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    generalgerry wrote: »

    And Fiona Ryan is a professional actress, look on youtube and you will see clips of her in UK Shows. This was just another acting job for her. She didn't happen to call down to Aldi for a 0.10 cent loaf of bread and a 5 euro chainsaw, and they happened to have the cameras turned on. She chose to put her family on the poster advocating for a German retailer for money. It was to be expected that there may be backlash from those more supportive of Irish businesses. NOT on a race basis, but on the basis that she is advocating for a foreign company.

    There's a big hole in your logic. Lidl has been in Ireland since 2000. Yet the only advert of theirs to cause any kind of "blacklash" is this one. What's the difference between this and all their other ads? This one has a mixed race couple in it. Is Fiona Ryan upset by "buy Irish" comments? No, she upset by the racist abuse. So for RTE, or anybody else, not to focus on the race issue would be stupid - to say the least.


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  • #6142
    wagtail99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭wagtail99


    generalgerry wrote: »
    Did she not take her child into account when he decided to sell their family to Lidl to promote them for money, when Lidl are wiping out all the indigenous Irish family shops and helping to kill off town centres? ..[snip]....

    Seriously, have you forgotten about 'rip-off Ireland' all those lovely indigenious shopkeepers taking us all for a ride. My town used to have only 2 Supervalues, and now has both an Aldi and Lidl, so you can now get affordable and quality food without having to break the bank. This Irishman is extremely happy that Lidl/Aldi are here.
    I do think that the Lidl adverts try to show a trendy and false cultural picture of life in Ireland though, not a single Polish/Eastern Euro family in sight, though maybe they feel that they've got that market sewn up :-)


  • #6143
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    generalgerry wrote: »
    And Fiona Ryan is a professional actress, look on youtube and you will see clips of her in UK Shows. This was just another acting job for her. She didn't happen to call down to Aldi for a 0.10 cent loaf of bread and a 5 euro chainsaw, and they happened to have the cameras turned on. She chose to put her family on the poster advocating for a German retailer for money. It was to be expected that there may be backlash from those more supportive of Irish businesses. NOT on a race basis, but on the basis that she is advocating for a foreign company.

    As has been said above, the criticism was race-based. This faux-outrage that one of the participants is an actress is beyond absurd -- how do you think casting agents find these people except through ad agencies, and of course they want participants with some experience.

    The entire family (the ads feature the wider family, along with this woman, her son and her partner) are called the Ryans -- and it was the inclusion of a black/ mixed-race member of the family which caused Gemma O'Doherty to lose her shít. You don't have to be a member of the bleeding-heart so-called PC brigade to see the racism that underlies all of this.

    Nobody was concerned about Lidl's products until this ad came along -- and by the way, I buy all the meat for our kitchen in Lidl, and all of it comes from Ireland.

    70% of Lidl's entire range of products are sourced from Ireland. Can other supermarkets say the same?


  • #6144
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭jackboy


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    70% of Lidl's entire range of products are sourced from Ireland. Can other supermarkets say the same?

    True, but don’t think lots of Irish producers are getting a good price, plenty of them are operating at a loss. Lidl are not in anyway good for Ireland. A lot of Irish producers with products going into Lidl will soon be out of business or combined into bigger operations.

    It’s not just Lidl of course, this is the way the sector has gone.


  • #6145
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    True, but don’t think lots of Irish producers are getting a good price, plenty of them are operating at a loss.
    They can't be any worse than the Irish retailers. Otherwise producers wouldn't be selling to them.

    Guys, this isn't remotely related to Lidl being foreign-owned. It's about a black/ mixed-race guy being part of an Irish family, and some people being unable to cope.


  • #6146
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭jackboy


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    They can't be any worse than the Irish retailers. Otherwise producers wouldn't be selling to them.

    Guys, this isn't remotely related to Lidl being foreign-owned. It's about a black/ mixed-race guy being part of an Irish family, and some people being unable to cope.

    Fair enough but it has to be remembered that it was Gemma who made an issue of the family in the ad. She is hardly credible and not exactly a sign that Ireland is descending to a racist hellhole.


  • #6147
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    Fair enough but it has to be remembered that it was Gemma who made an issue of the family in the ad. She is hardly credible and not exactly a sign that Ireland is descending to a racist hellhole.
    I don't think that's in question. Criticism of O'Doherty and her small rabble of idiots has quite rightly been across the board; it's not a mainstream left/right issue.


  • #6148
    Ahwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    jackboy wrote: »

    It’s not just Lidl of course, this is the way the sector has gone.

    Well yes, the beef producers were protesting outside Musgraves a couple of weeks ago. A Irish owned company. Quinnsworth and Dunnes Stores were not adverse to squeezing their suppliers back when they were the main players in the sector. The same could be said of Tesco, Dunnes and Supervalu today. So singling out Lidl and Aldi because they are German is xenophobic nonsense.


  • #6149
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Warrior John O'regan on at the moment, rattling on about FAI scandal no real meat in his yammering....


  • #6150
    robo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭robo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Warrior John O'regan on at the moment, rattling on about FAI scandal no real meat in his yammering....

    The amount of journalists who jumped on this with "exclusives" after Mark Tighe did the big expose on this. How much work and effort did Tighe and his team put in to get their story right and expose the true issues in the FAI when other journalists shouted about something they had no definite lead on. And then radio stations give these band-wagon journalists slots to just regurgitate the issues that Mark investigated.


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  • #6151
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    SOR:"Do you know how the rubble got there?"
    Rory:"No"
    SOR:"Of course not" Sarcastically.

    SOR follows up a few minutes after with "I didn't mean to imply you had anything to do with it. "

    Yes you did Sean, yes you did. Why don't you ask for the provision centre to be moved up there beside RTE if you are that offended with how it all panned out.


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