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Homeless mother forced to sleep in car

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    #62
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Panthro wrote: »
    Perhaps that's because I can afford to. ;)

    Mick you seem like a good guy.
    Why don't you offer to put the damsel in distress up for a few nights at your gaff? Assuming you live within an assets roar of wherever said damsel wants to live, and it would be great if you also had a jacuzzi and room for a pony.


    No im not good person im a human being

    I have in the past had people stay at my place. sometimes people need a bit of help. Just slapping folk down is not good.

    Many kids benefit from the company reasonability of taking care of a pony. long run a pony could help prevent kids going of the rails.


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    #63
    Bikerman2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Bikerman2019


    mick087 wrote: »
    How on earth can this happen?
    What type of society are we creating?

    That poor woman kids and no home.
    I for one would not like to be in that position and if i was then id like to know help would be there.
    you are obviously not reading the same situation we are.
    She has arrears from her last house for unpaid rent, and now is whining she is homeless after turning down another place.


    It is attitudes like yours that she is playing up to "that poooooor girl needs help" She is taking the mickey


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    #64
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,185 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    mick087 wrote: »
    Then lets give these kids a fair chance and remove this environment what ever that suppose to mean?

    Lets have a equality and justice for all.
    Fairer education fairer housing fairer access to health.

    Your right it wont change unless you go out and help instead of criticizing. We can all criticize but few will go out and help

    See it’s a hard one to deal with in my opinion.
    They were offered a house but the mother refused it. So she was offered help. Not everybody get to live where they want all around the World.
    Then what do you do?
    Remove the kids from the mother and put them into care? Would that help?
    It’s just a hard situation to deal with in my opinion.


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    #65
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    What’s the politically correct way of saying ‘fcuk her’?


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    #66
    [Deleted User]
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    Ah she's a bit too late. Her fellow traveller, of the Cash clan, has used these photocall options up already. Little Ms Joyce (who shouldn't be offered a house if she's in arrears in the first place) should start with the weepy eyes and see can she find a father for her five kids, or go back to the Council begging for the house they already offered her.




    She deserves neither, though, in my opinion.


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    #67
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    Title should not be "forced to sleep in car", it should be "chooses to sleep in car." She's a house there for the taking and doesn't want it. Ridiculous.


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    #68
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I'm going to avoid reading anything to do with this story or thread for my sanity.

    Happy Thursday.


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    #69
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Bikerman2019 wrote: »
    you are obviously not reading the same situation we are.
    She has arrears from her last house for unpaid rent, and now is whining she is homeless after turning down another place.


    It is attitudes like yours that she is playing up to "that poooooor girl needs help" She is taking the mickey




    Yes im reading the same as you but i have not spoke to her i dont know the real situation. But innocent to proven guilty.


    Its attitudes like mine you would want if you or any of your kin would want if you was to fall on bad times. Its attitudes like yours you yourself would not want to come across.


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    #70
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,185 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    mick087 wrote: »
    Yes im reading the same as you but i have not spoke to her i dont know the real situation. But innocent to proven guilty.


    Its attitudes like mine you would want if you or any of your kin would want if you was to fall on bad times. Its attitudes like yours you yourself would not want to come across.

    I hope my family would take the house they were offered instead of demanding one exactly where they want.


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    #71
    deaddonkey15
    Registered Users Posts: 3,574 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    mick087 wrote: »
    Then lets give these kids a fair chance and remove this environment what ever that suppose to mean?

    Lets have a equality and justice for all.
    Fairer education fairer housing fairer access to health.

    Your right it wont change unless you go out and help instead of criticizing. We can all criticize but few will go out and help

    We all go out and help by working hard and paying taxes to fund houses that her and Cash and the Thurles mob turn down.


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    mick087 wrote: »
    Yes im reading the same as you but i have not spoke to her i dont know the real situation. But innocent to proven guilty.


    Its attitudes like mine you would want if you or any of your kin would want if you was to fall on bad times. Its attitudes like yours you yourself would not want to come across.

    But everything reported is what she told us. She made the decision to sleep in a car even though she’s told us she was offered accommodation.

    Child services really need to act on behalf of the children here and take them into a safe environment. The mother isn’t doing her parental duty by them.


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    #73
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    See it’s a hard one to deal with in my opinion.
    They were offered a house but the mother refused it. So she was offered help. Not everybody get to live where they want all around the World.
    Then what do you do?
    Remove the kids from the mother and put them into care? Would that help?
    It’s just a hard situation to deal with in my opinion.

    Yes this does seem to be a difficlt one that i agree. But we must believe her at her word at the moment.

    She might have a good reason for not wanting that house.
    Remove the kids thats madness.
    Some people do extreme things to bring attention to there situation and many times this could be one. Then again maybe she might be playing us for a fool.
    Put yourself in her situation how would you like to be treated?


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    #74
    gmisk
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    She was offered a house...didn't like the location....so turned it down despite having a car.
    She is also in rental arrears to the council.

    Sorry very little sympathy (bar for her poor kids) far more deserving people e.g. people who work

    You shouldn't expect to be given a house by the council in whatever location you want, simple as that. Where is the husband at?


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    #75
    Higgins5473
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    What’s the best thing about this story? It seems like we are heading back to the usual shįte in same ole Ireland.

    What’s the worst thing about this story? It seems like we are heading back to the usual shįte in same ole Ireland.


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    #76
    WrenBoy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    mick087 wrote: »
    Yes this does seem to be a difficlt one that i agree. But we must believe her at her word at the moment.

    She might have a good reason for not wanting that house.
    Remove the kids thats madness.
    Some people do extreme things to bring attention to there situation and many times this could be one. Then again maybe she might be playing us for a fool.
    Put yourself in her situation how would you like to be treated?

    Id love some help like a free house in Cashel.


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    #77
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    But everything reported is what she told us. She made the decision to sleep in a car even though she’s told us she was offered accommodation.

    Child services really need to act on behalf of the children here and take them into a safe environment. The mother isn’t doing her parental duty by them.

    She i would say slept in the car to highlight the situation.
    The only way for you to understand emergency accommodation is to spend a night in it , then tell me you think its suitable for someone let alone a mother with kids. That's not having a go its something you should try before criticizing.
    I would without question say that them kids even i that car was in a much safer environment than any goverment child services could provide.


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    #78
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 31,831 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    mick087 wrote: »
    She i would say slept in the car to highlight the situation.
    The only way for you to understand emergency accommodation is to spend a night in it , then tell me you think its suitable for someone let alone a mother with kids. That's not having a go its something you should try before criticizing.
    I would without question say that them kids even i that car was in a much safer environment than any goverment child services could provide.
    She slept in the car to try and get a house be honest.

    She is in arrears to the council already and has been offered a home but turned it down due to location.....what more do you want exactly?

    I am sorry but zero sympathy for her.


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    #79
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Id love some help like a free house in Cashel.


    Yes we all might require help or know someone that does somewhere down the line in life. It would be good to know such help was there and folk didnt require to go to desperate measures to be counted.


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    #80
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    Spread your legs we'll give you a house , thats it

    First prioity for me and 99.9 % on payday is to have rent/mortgage money , not these degenerates

    Know quite a few families like these , spend fortunes on xbox / ps4 and ipads but can't afford their own place ?

    They have it handy


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    #81
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    mick087 wrote: »
    She i would say slept in the car to highlight the situation.
    The only way for you to understand emergency accommodation is to spend a night in it , then tell me you think its suitable for someone let alone a mother with kids. That's not having a go its something you should try before criticizing.
    I would without question say that them kids even i that car was in a much safer environment than any goverment child services could provide.

    She was offered a 3 bed house fully paid for by the state an hours drive from her parents.

    She refused it.

    She then brazenly and cynically used her children to manipulate public sentiment so she can get a better house.


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    #82
    timetogo1
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    If a family has to sleep in a car is there not any steps that can be taken to take the kids into care. Obviously the parent is not able to look after them properly and the kids should be looked after until the parents situation improves. (Rather than bounce them all to the top of a queue because a newspaper wants a catchy article).


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    #83
    whisky_galore
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    "Joyce" you say?

    Hardly related to one of our literary greats, the other Joyce's I'd say.


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    #84
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    timetogo1 wrote: »
    If a family has to sleep in a car is there not any steps that can be taken to take the kids into care. Obviously the parent is not able to look after them properly and the kids should be looked after until the parents situation improves. (Rather than bounce them all to the top of a queue because a newspaper wants a catchy article).

    Her Kids be doing this when of age

    Vicious circle


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    #85
    timetogo1
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    Eircom_Sucks wrote: »
    Her Kids be doing this when of age

    Vicious circle

    As it stands now, yes. But if they were taken into care their situation may improve.
    And I know Ireland doesn't have a good reputation of the state looking after children. But before we fall back on that maybe we could try and improve the situation. Ah feck, again, I know that'd probably need a quango and years of work to basically do nothing. :mad:


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    #86
    gmisk
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Every waster in Ireland is in arrears in council houses. They get rent relief which instead of paying the rent they spend. Then don’t pay the rent

    The rent should be taken at source so the waster doesn’t get it
    Dublin city council released figured not that long ago.
    60 percent in arrears...20 percent over 6 months in arrears.
    Sure why bother if pretty much zero chance of being kicked out?!


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    #87
    golfball37
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    Cashel to Nenagh is not just down the road. Just to play devils advocate here. If her kids are going to school there it’s insane to be living that far away.

    I’m no way saying she should be entitled to everything she wants but she is within her rights to say no.


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    Donald Trump
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    suicide_circus wrote: »
    "Joyce" you say?
    Hardly related to one of our literary greats, the other Joyce's I'd say.




    Maybe they are part of the Joyce country ceili band? Playing away and they're doing grand? They're singing a song won't you give them a hand?


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    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    gmisk wrote: »
    She slept in the car to try and get a house be honest.

    She is in arrears to the council already and has been offered a home but turned it down due to location.....what more do you want exactly?

    I am sorry but zero sympathy for her.

    Oh yes i do believe that she did sleep in the car to highlight her problem and maybe get a house.

    Arrears well if she had no job and wasn't working then you should not be paying rent for a council house. i for one would not be able live on social welfare alone let alone pay towards rent to.


    i get the zero sympathy but my guess is your or no one you know has been in such a unfortunate situation so you wouldn't have any sympathy.
    What if it was you ? what if this was your daughter or sister? Ok its not going to happen. But if it does?


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    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,149 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    mick087 wrote: »
    Yes we all might require help or know someone that does somewhere down the line in life. It would be good to know such help was there and folk didnt require to go to desperate measures to be counted.

    the help was there. she turned down the help provided to her.


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    Shefwedfan
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    Cal4567 wrote: »
    Failure by all governments here not to deduct at source. Seems the sensible solution and even more so if you have arrears. What actually happens if the arrears are there years and years? Do they just get written off in the end? Anyone know?

    Written off...


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