Saorview

Munster Magic · 29-08-2020 4:34pm #1

Hi all,

This is probably a dumb question but we bought a Saorview Approved Toshiba TV recently and we are just setting this up now.

We have connected the TV to the aerial but when we search for channels it is coming up with no results.

I know we are probably missing a simple step but can anyone advise what we need to do?

Thanks and apologies in advance for asking a dumb question

Elvis Hammond · 29-08-2020 5:28pm

Is this a rooftop aerial we're talking about? Does it or did it work for other TVs or boxes?

Munster Magic · 30-08-2020 8:40am

Elvis Hammond wrote: »

Is this a rooftop aerial we're talking about? Does it or did it work for other TVs or boxes?

Sorry, yes it's a rooftop aerial and had worked on the TV for the previous tenant

greasepalm · 30-08-2020 8:48am

Have you setup a location for it to scan under as tps could be different.

Elvis Hammond · 30-08-2020 8:59am

Munster Magic wrote: »

Sorry, yes it's a rooftop aerial and had worked on the TV for the previous tenant

There could be a masthead amplifier up at the aerial, & its indoor power supply might have been removed, or just unplugged. Take a look at the aerial cable & see if it's connected to a box with a power lead, before where it goes outside or into the wall.

Munster Magic · 30-08-2020 9:05am

Elvis Hammond wrote: »

There could be a masthead amplifier up at the aerial, & its indoor power supply might have been removed, or just unplugged. Take a look at the aerial cable & see if it's connected to a box with a power lead, before where it goes outside or into the wall.

There's no box. The cable just goes straight into the wall. We had to get an extension for it as it wasn't long enough to reach the TV but that shouldn't affect it should it?

Elvis Hammond · 30-08-2020 9:14am

Munster Magic wrote: »

There's no box. The cable just goes straight into the wall ...

Take a look up at the aerial itself, & see if there are any boxes up there. (If there's more than one aerial, there would be a combiner too.)

Maybe post a pic, if you're not sure what's what.

greasepalm · 30-08-2020 9:15am

You rechecked that the connection is good.

Munster Magic · 30-08-2020 9:18am

greasepalm wrote: »

You rechecked that the connection is good.

Dumb question but how do I check that?

Munster Magic · 30-08-2020 9:19am

Elvis Hammond wrote: »

Take a look up at the aerial itself, & see if there are any boxes up there. (If there's more than one aerial, there would be a combiner too.)

Maybe post a pic, if you're not sure what's what.

Not there at the minute but will put a picture later. Thanks for all the help

greasepalm · 30-08-2020 9:53am

Cable coming out of wall which is your aerial cable does the house also have a sat dish up there thinking it might have a diplexer fitted which is connecting sat and aerial combined into 1 feed cable and extracted the far end with another diplexer.

You said cable was joined to add more length is it an f connector like on sat,recheck outer and inner are not touching.
You can join 2 f connectors cables with a joiner for a better signal as better than rf joiners.

Elvis Hammond · 30-08-2020 9:57am

greasepalm wrote: »

Cable coming out of wall which is your aerial cable does the house also have a sat dish up there thinking it might have a diplexer fitted which is connecting sat and aerial combined into 1 feed cable and extracted the far end with another diplexer.

You don't need a diplexer to 'extract' anything. If that's all that's missing, it wouldn't matter much.

Johnboy1951 · 30-08-2020 3:24pm

Munster Magic wrote: »

Hi all,

This is probably a dumb question but we bought a Saorview Approved Toshiba TV recently and we are just setting this up now.

We have connected the TV to the aerial but when we search for channels it is coming up with no results.

I know we are probably missing a simple step but can anyone advise what we need to do?

Thanks and apologies in advance for asking a dumb question

Is it searching the correct frequencies for the transmitter your aerial is pointing to?

AngryLips · 06-09-2020 3:47pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Is it searching the correct frequencies for the transmitter your aerial is pointing to?

Sorry to jump on this thread but I'm having a similar problem. What is the correct frequency for Saorview? New LG smart TV, fails to detect any channels when scanning with an indoor aerial. The indoor aerial is connected to a power supply and the aerial works when used with a Saorview Connect box plugged into the same TV. I've no idea what I'm missing here.

greasepalm · 06-09-2020 4:08pm

Its an area thing as are you sure tv is for saorview and not freeview?
Is the scanning mode set to dvb/c = cable or dvb/t/t2 =saorview?
State your location might also help.

https://www.freetv.ie/digital-tv-aerial-selection-guide/

AngryLips · 06-09-2020 4:27pm

greasepalm wrote: »

Its an area thing as are you sure tv is for saorview and not freeview?
Is the scanning mode set to dvb/c = cable or dvb/t/t2 =saorview?
State your location might also help.

https://www.freetv.ie/digital-tv-aerial-selection-guide/

Shortly after I posted it started working after like the tenth scan, ta. Seems weird that it scans immediate for the Saorview box but not for the TV.

greasepalm · 06-09-2020 4:29pm

But is the tv Saorview approved ?

Elvis Hammond · 06-09-2020 4:36pm

greasepalm wrote: »

But is the tv Saorview approved ?

Why would that matter?

bobbyy gee · 06-09-2020 5:07pm

back to basics or bring your tv to friends house to eliminate aerial problems
https://www.saorview.ie/changes/rescan

greasepalm · 06-09-2020 5:46pm

Uk and Ireland could use different settings.

Elvis Hammond · 06-09-2020 5:54pm

greasepalm wrote: »

Uk and Ireland could use different settings.

They don't, & I wouldn't worry one bit about Saorview approval.

AngryLips · 06-09-2020 6:35pm

Aren't all TVs sold in Ireland now Saorview approved? If it turns out it's not, I'd be looking for a refund

JP Liz V1 · 06-09-2020 9:47pm

AngryLips wrote: »

Aren't all TVs sold in Ireland now Saorview approved? If it turns out it's not, I'd be looking for a refund

I thought they were

greasepalm · 06-09-2020 10:38pm

Now most are but if buying up north it may be freeview and that may need a different aerial.

Elvis Hammond · 07-09-2020 8:07am

greasepalm wrote: »

Now most are but if buying up north it may be freeview and that may need a different aerial.

What has Freeview got to do with this thread? Any TV bought here or in the UK, or indeed anywhere in Europe will tune in Saorview, whether it has their approval or not.

bbari · 24-10-2020 4:10pm

Before I order an aerial, how can i find if my TV is Saorview? I don't see Saorview mentioned in the manual. The picture below is taken from the manual.

if it is Saorview, will an indoor anteena like THIS work?

TV Model: Sony KD65XD9305 - Linky

The Cush · 24-10-2020 4:25pm

bbari wrote: »

Before I order an aerial, how can i find if my TV is Saorview? I don't see Saorview mentioned in the manual. The picture below is taken from the manual.

if it is Saorview, will an indoor anteena like THIS work?

Post the make and model of the TV, someone will advise.

How an indoor aerial will work in your house will depend on how good the TV signal from the transmitter is where you locate the aerial, no one here will be able to say for sure.

bbari · 24-10-2020 4:32pm

The Cush wrote: »

Post the make and model of the TV, someone will advise.

How an indoor aerial will work in your house will depend on how good the TV signal from the transmitter is where you locate the aerial, no one here will be able to say for sure.

Thanks. Added the model in the above post. I'm in Dublin and coverage site shows 28km distance.

decor58 · 24-10-2020 4:53pm

bbari wrote: »

Thanks. Added the model in the above post. I'm in Dublin and coverage site shows 28km distance.

The spec for that tv refers to Freeview HD, in which case it will receive Saorview, an outdoor aerial is best but you might get away with an indoor type, even to put it in the attic.

bbari · 24-10-2020 6:10pm

decor58 wrote: »

The spec for that tv refers to Freeview HD, in which case it will receive Saorview, an outdoor aerial is best but you might get away with an indoor type, even to put it in the attic.

Thank you for confirming that. From the pile of my cables I found an old RF/Antenna cable, connected the cable to the tv without anything on the other end, did the auto digital scan and 22 channels (10 TV and 12 Radio) channels found. The cable has to be on a certain spot on the floor to work! Signal quality wasn't the best (21%), I put the loose end of the cable outside and the signal quality improved to 51%. Surely thats because there isn't anything connected to the other end of the cable. Getting antenna in the attic isn't that easy. I assume even if i get an indoor antenna, I should get more channels including the UK?

24-10-2020 6:13pm

bbari wrote: »

Thank you for confirming that. From the pile of my cables I found an old RF/Antenna cable, connected the cable to the tv without anything on the other end, did the auto digital scan and 22 channels (10 TV and 12 Radio) channels found. The cable has to be on a certain spot on the floor to work! Signal quality wasn't the best (21%), I put the loose end of the cable outside and the signal quality improved to 51%. Surely thats because there isn't anything connected to the other end of the cable. Getting antenna in the attic isn't that easy. I assume even if i get an indoor antenna, I should get more channels including the UK?

You won't get uk channels on an aerial in Dublin. You need to know which way the transmission is coming from for the aerial

bbari · 24-10-2020 6:22pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

You won't get uk channels on an aerial in Dublin. You need to know which way the transmission is coming from for the aerial

Understood - I get FTA on the satellite box anyway it was mainly to get RTE.

I'll get an indoor antenna in that case so the signal strength is improved.

24-10-2020 6:44pm

bbari wrote: »

Understood - I get FTA on the satellite box anyway it was mainly to get RTE.

I'll get an indoor antenna in that case so the signal strength is improved.

If it works, great. Indoor didn't work reliable for me but in the attic is 100% in every room

decor58 · 24-10-2020 8:30pm

bbari wrote: »

Understood - I get FTA on the satellite box anyway it was mainly to get RTE.

I'll get an indoor antenna in that case so the signal strength is improved.

I wouldn't go mad on the price, and certainly not an amplified one, try one from a pound shop or Dealz, it will give you a good indication of what is possible.

bbari · 24-10-2020 9:01pm

decor58 wrote: »

I wouldn't go mad on the price, and certainly not an amplified one, try one from a pound shop or Dealz, it will give you a good indication of what is possible.

Thank you. They are around €10 on amazon and perhaps can be hidden behind the TV. I doubt you can get cheaper than that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UA9BLSG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7DiLFb1RVFSDA

decor58 · 24-10-2020 9:23pm

bbari wrote: »

Thank you. They are around €10 on amazon and perhaps can be hidden behind the TV. I doubt you can get cheaper than that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UA9BLSG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7DiLFb1RVFSDA

I don't have any experience of those type aerials but I think I would rather a traditional type. Argos have non amplified types for about 10e or I would still try one from Dealz first. If you were getting a signal on the cable on its own it gives an indication of the strength of the signal in your area.

refusetolose · 24-10-2020 9:31pm

bbari wrote: »

Thank you. They are around €10 on amazon and perhaps can be hidden behind the TV. I doubt you can get cheaper than that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UA9BLSG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7DiLFb1RVFSDA

i have a similar one to that and it works very well

this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07XD1RZLP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AJNHDIRVU2OQF&psc=1

bbari · 24-10-2020 10:13pm

refusetolose wrote: »

i have a similar one to that and it works very well

this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07XD1RZLP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AJNHDIRVU2OQF&psc=1

Do you need power supply for that?

greasepalm · 24-10-2020 10:25pm

Not showing a power supply only cable input.

winston_1 · 24-10-2020 10:41pm

bbari wrote: »

Before I order an aerial, how can i find if my TV is Saorview? I don't see Saorview mentioned in the manual. The picture below is taken from the manual.

if it is Saorview, will an indoor anteena like THIS work?

TV Model: Sony KD65XD9305 - Linky

Doubt it. That is a sheet of plastic with lies, not an aerial. The biggest lie is 150 miles. You might get that range at the top of a mountain, but never in a suburban house indoors.

If you really want to try an indoor aerial get one that looks like an aerial. Try a Euro shop.

winston_1 · 24-10-2020 10:44pm

refusetolose wrote: »

i have a similar one to that and it works very well

this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07XD1RZLP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AJNHDIRVU2OQF&psc=1

Rubbish, sheet of plastic with the wrong plug on it.

winston_1 · 24-10-2020 10:47pm

bbari wrote: »

Thank you. They are around €10 on amazon and perhaps can be hidden behind the TV. I doubt you can get cheaper than that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UA9BLSG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7DiLFb1RVFSDA

Another sheet of plastic with the wrong plug on it.

greasepalm · 24-10-2020 11:19pm

It mentions dvb/t/t2 so assume it should and has twin sat tuners.

refusetolose · 27-10-2020 2:29am

winston_1 wrote: »

Rubbish, sheet of plastic with the wrong plug on it.

eh ok Mr Negative,

its getting me perfect saorview though

refusetolose · 27-10-2020 2:30am

bbari wrote: »

Do you need power supply for that?

no power supply

Johnboy1951 · 27-10-2020 10:00am

greasepalm wrote: »

It mentions dvb/t/t2 so assume it should and has twin sat tuners.

A single 'terrestrial' tuner can have the ability to deal with
dvb-t
dvb-t2
dvb-c

NewClareman · 27-10-2020 10:45pm

winston_1 wrote: »

If you really want to try an indoor aerial get one that looks like an aerial. Try a Euro shop.

If the OP has a strong enough signal to use an indoor aerial it is likely that a wide range of aerials will work. The advantage of ones that don't 'look like an aerial' is that they can be less obtrusive and easier to hide.

Continually posting that non traditional aerials are rubbish is doing no service to people looking for impartial advice.

Asus X540L · 03-11-2020 5:19pm

Anyone know if RTE or whoever is planning to add more channels?
The basic selection is pretty dire.

Surely they could throw in Eurosport and some extra news channels as well. They're free channels. Maybe even something like Sky Arts.

The Cush · 03-11-2020 5:37pm

Asus X540L wrote: »

Surely they could throw in Eurosport and some extra news channels as well. They're free channels. Maybe even something like Sky Arts.

Free to receive via satellite but there is always a carriage charge to the broadcaster, a multiplexing charge applies for any channel carried on Saorview, can't remember the figure ATM.

galtee boy · 03-11-2020 7:59pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

You won't get uk channels on an aerial in Dublin. You need to know which way the transmission is coming from for the aerial

Don't people in North Co.Dublin receive Freeview from NI ?

greasepalm · 03-11-2020 8:32pm

Visiting Skerries and looking on the arriva box many more received on their aerials think bbc and itv as i remember rescanning it with lost channels.

Saorview

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