weed vs alcohol

mr_fegelien · 07-04-2020 4:57pm #1

Which would you choose and would you be in favor of legalization?

cj maxx · 07-04-2020 5:01pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Which would you choose and would you be in favor of legalization?

I have to choose !!!

Deebles McBeebles · 07-04-2020 5:28pm

It would be like choosing between my 2 children. If I had 2 children.

Did I lose them somewhere? Another smoke will solve this.

biko · 07-04-2020 5:30pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Which would you choose and would you be in favor of legalization?

Yes, I think alcohol should be legal

scoobydude · 07-04-2020 5:33pm

I'd choose booze. I know it has many downsides, but personally weed doesn't agree with me any more, it gives me what I can only describe as panic attacks when I smoke. Research has told me that in a perfect world I'd smoke cbd heavy stains, but haven't had the chance to do that, and all the stuff you get nowadays is super HTC heavy, which gives me the aforementioned attacks.

I think gargle is way more social. I've had great experience with friends smoking away on a beach or wherever, fits of giggles and all the rest, but I think it doesn't lend itself to being the great giver of craic that drink does.

So it's drink for me, but both are fine really

punisher5112 · 07-04-2020 5:36pm

Hookers and coke not an option then.....

Ok ok... Crystal meth only option.

mr_fegelien · 07-04-2020 6:13pm

scoobydude wrote: »

I'd choose booze. I know it has many downsides, but personally weed doesn't agree with me any more, it gives me what I can only describe as panic attacks when I smoke. Research has told me that in a perfect world I'd smoke cbd heavy stains, but haven't had the chance to do that, and all the stuff you get nowadays is super HTC heavy, which gives me the aforementioned attacks.

I think gargle is way more social. I've had great experience with friends smoking away on a beach or wherever, fits of giggles and all the rest, but I think it doesn't lend itself to being the great giver of craic that drink does.

So it's drink for me, but both are fine really

Have you tried benzos with weed? I know a friend who had panic attacks when smoking and tried Xanax. It worked but also potentiated the high

tuxy · 07-04-2020 6:16pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Have you tried benzos with weed? I know a friend who had panic attacks when smoking and tried Xanax. It worked but also potentiated the high

Top advice, I see no problem with it.

Temptamperu · 07-04-2020 6:48pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Have you tried benzos with weed? I know a friend who had panic attacks when smoking and tried Xanax. It worked but also potentiated the high

This is horse****e xanax dosent make a weed high, higher.

mr_fegelien · 07-04-2020 7:00pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

This is horse****e xanax dosent make a weed high, higher.

But it does get rid of the anxiety. And it increases the munchies to unbelievable levels

JohnnyFlash · 07-04-2020 7:01pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

But it does get rid of the anxiety. And it increases the munchies to unbelievable levels

Little dab of speed up around the gums gets rid of the munchies.

harry Bailey esq · 07-04-2020 7:05pm

Temptamperu wrote: »

This is horse****e xanax dosent make a weed high, higher.

I'd consider myself well versed with both, and your spot on. If anything, any benzo will generally counteract the stone from the weed. This can be a good thing that being said, some sativas are just too much for the head and a benzo can take away the paranoia and other undesirable effects. Personally, I prefer a nice piece of decent solid to smoke.

WhiteMemento9 · 07-04-2020 7:07pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Have you tried benzos with weed? I know a friend who had panic attacks when smoking and tried Xanax. It worked but also potentiated the high

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbNdhOY4Bg

Church on Tuesday · 07-04-2020 7:12pm

Grim.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 07-04-2020 7:12pm

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbNdhOY4Bg

^this guy later on

rapul · 07-04-2020 7:13pm

Bitta foolish

Odyssey 2005 · 07-04-2020 7:14pm

Das Reich · 07-04-2020 7:15pm

To relax? I would chose something most alcoholics and drugged people don't like. Liking a vag.ina.

Ultrflat · 07-04-2020 7:43pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

^this guy later on

I have never once in all my life been like that from taking illegal substances.

How ever Alcohol. I've been worse :pac:

endacl · 07-04-2020 7:44pm

scoobydude wrote: »

I'd choose booze.

Me too. More for the pleasing internal rhyming structure than any other reason though.

iamstop · 07-04-2020 8:15pm

It's been legal here for a while in Canada. Then 5G and Corona came along. Coincidence?

buckwheat · 07-04-2020 9:10pm

Bit of the old heroin for me. Luckily, the amount of heroin I use is harmless, I inject about once a month on a purely recreational basis. Fine. But what about other people less stable, less educated, less middle-class than me? Builders or blacks for example. If you're one of those, my advice is leave well alone.

mr_fegelien · 07-04-2020 9:43pm

buckwheat wrote: »

Bit of the old heroin for me. Luckily, the amount of heroin I use is harmless, I inject about once a month on a purely recreational basis. Fine. But what about other people less stable, less educated, less middle-class than me? Builders or blacks for example. If you're one of those, my advice is leave well alone.

I'm black so I probably shouldn't use it. Then again I use codeine which is an opiate albeit a very very weak one. Only 1% of it gets converted into morphine and that's in people with good liver enzymes. For some people, it doesn't even work.

Munsterman12 · 07-04-2020 9:45pm

Prefer drinking beer but I get bad hangovers so I'd pick weed just for that alone.

uch · 07-04-2020 10:10pm

Ultrflat wrote: »

I have never once in all my life been like that from taking illegal substances.

How ever Alcohol. I've been worse :pac:

Then you've only taken fairly light stuff so, I've lost days and being in that condition is fairly normal with a lot of dangerous shít

Arghus · 07-04-2020 11:28pm

I smoked weed for years. I used to enjoy the feeling of complete intense absorption in films, games, but particularly with music. But it wasn't good for me. It took me a fair while to realise this. I'm quite an introspective person by nature and my mind would go into overdrive while I was stoned. I could never be fully at ease and I was frequently on edge or busy reading way too much into things - I didn't particularly like being out in public or being with other people while I was whacked. When people say weed relaxes them I genuinely have no clue what they mean. But I know for some people it does.

I stopped abruptly one night after just having enough of it. I didn't want to spend any more money on it, didn't like hanging around with people with whom the only thing I had in common with was smoking weed, hated waking up everyday tired and feeling like someone had taken a dump in my brain, hated feeling like I was a servant to it; that I couldn't feel my evening was complete until I had a smoke. That was it: enough. And it was surprisingly easy to just quit. Went to Amsterdam a few years ago and thought, fck it, I have to smoke something while I'm here. Had one joint and it basically ruined my evening - brain going 100mph. Brought it back to me why I stopped smoking in the first place. Not for me, but to each their own.

I like the camaraderie of going boozing with people. I never felt any of that when I was stoned in the company of others. I don't typically drink to the point of insensibility, but I can stay in the merry phase for quite a long time. There's no comparison for me between a night of great craic on the booze with people and the slow sluggish experience of sitting around with others, getting baked.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-04-2020 11:33pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Which would you choose and would you be in favor of legalization?

Alcohol, and both should be legal yes. To deny as such makes you either a hypocrite or a nanny-state advocate (depending on whether you want to ban one or both)

Ultrflat · 08-04-2020 3:33am

uch wrote: »

Then you've only taken fairly light stuff so, I've lost days and being in that condition is fairly normal with a lot of dangerous shít

When I was in my 20s I used to go to a lot of clubs take pills mdma and dance the night away.

Tried coke but seriously never got the appeal. I'd never go near heroin no matter how messed up I was.

I'd just hoof joints into me Untill I could sleep if I couldn't sleep, chilled tunes and play station or spoon a chick I was with.

chrissb8 · 08-04-2020 3:54am

Weed, any day. Over the years my relationship with alcohol has changed to the point where I could easily go a month drinking 4 beers over that time. I would really miss those few drinks though, especially a great pint of Guinness. Alcohol has done some bad things in the past and though very fun at times to get yourself loose the hangovers, anxiety, gloom that comes with it are strong reasons why I limit any drunkness to even once every 2 months at this stage, usually this revolves around an important social event etc.

But weed is a much more versatile and fun thing in my mind. It gets my creative juices going, let's me think laterally on topics and obviously a fantastic de-stressor. What I never cop is people thinking weed isn't for them off of some bad experience when previously they have enjoyed it. There's just too much stuff going around now with THC levels through the roof. I genuinely believe there is a strain or a level of THC where they can enjoy themselves it's just a pity it's not legal. So you roll the dice each time you get a few grams.

I smoked for years on the regular and the one thing I will say about it is the normalisation of being stoned day in and day out. Which I was guilty of doing and kinda wasted time and life doing it. Becoming lazy and focused day in and day out on the joint or two that would come at the end. Just like it's a great stress relief because it takes you out of your head it's also a bad thing. Because life becomes manageable and easy when in a sedated state when really you aren't dealing with your life you're just escaping it whenever it gets tough. That can be addictive in itself. It's also such an easy trap to toke up just a little bit even before loads of occasions it's insidious in that sense.

Otherwise, Legalize weed.

jbt123 · 08-04-2020 3:59am

Alcohol for me.. it's the glue that holds all other drug usage together.

Quantum Erasure · 08-04-2020 4:06am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Little dab of speed up around the gums gets rid of the munchies.

maybe a wee bit of MDMA, just in case. quarter a pill, maybe a bit more...

in fact forget everything else and just do the E

Queasy Tadpole · 08-04-2020 9:05am

Choice between the two I'd pick the drink.

I think weed should be fully legal though. Smoke if you want. It's less harmful than alcohol.

Rufeo · 08-04-2020 9:56am

This post had me thinking about Cigarettes n Alcohol from Oasis.

How does one link in videos in here.

Pac1Man · 08-04-2020 10:25am

Rufeo wrote: »

This post had me thinking about Cigarettes n Alcohol from Oasis.

How does one link in videos in here.

First of all, here's a GIF to illustrate my superiority:

And here's your video good sir, Maine Road 1996 no less.

Bobblehats · 08-04-2020 10:35am

That reminds me. Weedol! Thanks fedge

candycock · 08-04-2020 9:35pm

Weed, alcohol and prozac all in a night out twice a week nice stone in fairness.

08-04-2020 10:08pm

Pretty much everything I've ever done that I'm embarrassed or ashamed about, I've done while drunk.

Moderate intake of Alcohol, sure... but honestly, I find drinking Alcohol rather boring, and i don't particularly like the taste all that much. Plus as I get older, I'm more likely to get heart burn when I drink it.

Weed... I use it as treatment for my shaking disorder, and also, because it's enjoyable. I've always loved the effect of munchies too. Used to get paranoid when I was a teenager, but I haven't had such a feeling in two decades. Avoiding crappier strains helps there. Laziness or lack of momentum is the major issue for me with weed, so it's just something I do rarely.

So, Weed Vs Alcohol? Definitely weed.... but as with either drug. Moderation.

Montage of Feck · 09-04-2020 12:16am

Alcohol is the most widely accepted social lubricant, so alcohol. But I find it strange you cant dispense therapeutic pharmacological advice on here but it's perfectly acceptable to give spurious advice on doing speedballs.

Potential-Monke · 09-04-2020 1:06am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Alcohol is the most widely accepted social lubricant, so alcohol. But I find it strange you cant dispense therapeutic pharmacological advice on here but it's perfectly acceptable to give spurious advice on doing speedballs.

The legal stuff has laws surrounding what you or who can and can't say, and the illegal stuff is just illegal to have so any advice about anything illegal should be taken with a bag of salt anyway?

Weed for me. In my teens/20's it would have been drink. If that was because I wasn't into weed/hash at the time, or because I wasn't around the people who were, but it was 99.9% drink back then. Back when you could do the absolute dog on it, and still be fine(ish) the following day.

As others have said, most of what I regret in life there was alcohol involved. The only thing I regret with weed was taking a waterfall just after a honker of a joint before going to bed. Turned around, turned off the light to go upstairs, woke up face down on the floor, chip gone from my front tooth welded into the wood laminate flooring. Nearly killed myself while drunk a few times. Big difference!

I digress. It's hard for a lot of people to say weed right now, because due to a bad experience they may not want to try again, but with legalisation the options of the different strains would be available. Just like I won't drink whiskey because I know I'll black out regardless of the amount imbibed, but I can drink rum (to an extent) without that issue. My mate is a clean freak on some strains, and a couch potato on others. Not having that choice can blur the decision.

Would be a fantastic state earner if they legalised it at the end of this pandemic. Easy, quick money, loads of jobs, and eventually all the other social and financial benefits it should bring if done right.

dasdog · 09-04-2020 2:01am

Arghus wrote: »

I smoked weed for years. I used to enjoy the feeling of complete intense absorption in films, games, but particularly with music. But it wasn't good for me. It took me a fair while to ....blah blah

I completely understand where this is coming from but I'm getting on in years and I no longer take in to consideration what strangers opinions of me might be. I have no problem doing a bowl and heading in to whatever situation presents itself - although I leave it to weekends.

It used to be hash and cans - at least it's now decent beer and green. If it doesn't agree with you don't bother - quite simple really.

09-04-2020 2:09am

Can't bate some good weed.

dartboardio · 09-04-2020 2:11am

Arghus wrote: »

I smoked weed for years. I used to enjoy the feeling of complete intense absorption in films, games, but particularly with music. But it wasn't good for me. It took me a fair while to realise this. I'm quite an introspective person by nature and my mind would go into overdrive while I was stoned. I could never be fully at ease and I was frequently on edge or busy reading way too much into things - I didn't particularly like being out in public or being with other people while I was whacked. When people say weed relaxes them I genuinely have no clue what they mean. But I know for some people it does.

I stopped abruptly one night after just having enough of it. I didn't want to spend any more money on it, didn't like hanging around with people with whom the only thing I had in common with was smoking weed, hated waking up everyday tired and feeling like someone had taken a dump in my brain, hated feeling like I was a servant to it; that I couldn't feel my evening was complete until I had a smoke. That was it: enough. And it was surprisingly easy to just quit. Went to Amsterdam a few years ago and thought, fck it, I have to smoke something while I'm here. Had one joint and it basically ruined my evening - brain going 100mph. Brought it back to me why I stopped smoking in the first place. Not for me, but to each their own.

I like the camaraderie of going boozing with people. I never felt any of that when I was stoned in the company of others. I don't typically drink to the point of insensibility, but I can stay in the merry phase for quite a long time. There's no comparison for me between a night of great craic on the booze with people and the slow sluggish experience of sitting around with others, getting baked.

Jesus, I could have wrote this myself.

I smoked weed everyday mostly from the age of 15/16 onwards to about 19. I remember, when I was that age, it made me feel good, laugh alot, and I was quite a relaxed fun person.

Then something just changed and it began to make me paranoid, anxious, feel awkward around close friends.

I hate smoking it now, and avoid it where possible. Once a year I might have a small drag or two for the crack if I'm drinking with my boyfriend, it makes me appreciate music more.

However my mind goes on complete overdrive and I become quite uncomfortable if I smoke too much, maybe that's the problem, it was too much haha

In general I am quite fond of alcohol and I love a few drinks. However I see friends around me still smoking and relying on weed and kinda feel sorry for them, I feel so free now that I don't smoke weed or feel like I have to smoke it to feel a certain way.

Maybe it's just the guilt and self sabotage thing I feel for myself, like I loved weed way too much as a teenager and it made me hate myself I think, along with leaving school etc, all those things I probably wouldn't have done, had I never started smoking it..

s1ippy · 09-04-2020 2:15am

Das Reich wrote: »

To relax? I would chose something most alcoholics and drugged people don't like. Liking a vag.ina.

Is the domain vag.ina taken?

dasdog · 09-04-2020 2:33am

dartboardio wrote: »

Jesus, I could have wrote this myself.

I smoked weed everyday mostly from the age of 15/16 onwards to about 19. I remember, when I was that age, it made me feel good, laugh alot, and I was quite a relaxed fun person.

Then something just changed and it began to make me paranoid, anxious, feel awkward around close friends.

Sorry to hear that but it's likely street weed you've been around or perhaps it's just an avenue that your mind doesn't want to explore. It's illegal after all so you cannot be proud whilst high in public. The same is not true of alcohol.

Potential-Monke · 09-04-2020 3:07am

dasdog wrote: »

Sorry to hear that but it's likely street weed you've been around or perhaps it's just an avenue that your mind doesn't want to explore. It's illegal after all so you cannot be proud whilst high in public. The same is not true of alcohol.

I beg to differ. I see no harm in it as long as I'm not driving or anything like that. It's only illegal because a piece of legislation says so. World trend is showing increasing legalisation so it is only a matter of time imo. In the next few governments, when the younger ones start becoming the middle aged ones. So i'm not going to feel shame or anything like that. I'm not advertising the fact either, but if asked straight up I wouldn't deny it.

Maybe it was 9 years of seeing the results of alcohol, but i'm completely gone off it, and consider it dangerous because people can't respect it. Not all, obviously, but a lot. Otherwise there wouldn't be a 'drink problem' in this country.

dasdog · 09-04-2020 3:37am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

....so i'm not going to feel shame or anything like that. I'm not advertising the fact either, but if asked straight up I wouldn't deny it.

There is no shame but it's still taboo - phucking pride if anything. Weed and booze both have their merits - and downsides. Substance abuse should be the topic not cannabis plants flowers versus the yeast's bi-product.

dockysher · 09-04-2020 4:18am

Joe exotic?

mr_fegelien · 09-04-2020 5:31am

dartboardio wrote: »

Jesus, I could have wrote this myself.

I smoked weed everyday mostly from the age of 15/16 onwards to about 19. I remember, when I was that age, it made me feel good, laugh alot, and I was quite a relaxed fun person.

Then something just changed and it began to make me paranoid, anxious, feel awkward around close friends.

I hate smoking it now, and avoid it where possible. Once a year I might have a small drag or two for the crack if I'm drinking with my boyfriend, it makes me appreciate music more.

However my mind goes on complete overdrive and I become quite uncomfortable if I smoke too much, maybe that's the problem, it was too much haha

In general I am quite fond of alcohol and I love a few drinks. However I see friends around me still smoking and relying on weed and kinda feel sorry for them, I feel so free now that I don't smoke weed or feel like I have to smoke it to feel a certain way.

Maybe it's just the guilt and self sabotage thing I feel for myself, like I loved weed way too much as a teenager and it made me hate myself I think, along with leaving school etc, all those things I probably wouldn't have done, had I never started smoking it..

I watched a documentary that said the weed nowadays is very different from the one that the older generation smoked. It's been bred to have a higher THC content but a low or non existence CBD content which is found to actually modulate the high. It's also apparently the reason why weed psychosis has skyrocketed.

You should go to Canada or the Netherlands where they've turned it into a science and smoke a strain of weed with a high cannabidiol content.

Potential-Monke · 09-04-2020 5:46am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I watched a documentary that said the weed nowadays is very different from the one that the older generation smoked. It's been bred to have a higher THC content but a low or non existence CBD content which is found to actually modulate the high. It's also apparently the reason why weed psychosis has skyrocketed.

That's exactly the problem, it's hard to 'dose' when you don't know the THC/CBD content, strain, etc. If the choice and information was there, people could try a strain that's geared towards what they're looking for. Opinions might change then.

Offering a first timer a smoke of god knows what could be like offering a first time drinker a clear liquid, unknown as to what it is, turns out to have the effects of poitin! Could also have the effect of water. The joys of illegal weed!

mr_fegelien · 09-04-2020 5:54am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

That's exactly the problem, it's hard to 'dose' when you don't know the THC/CBD content, strain, etc. If the choice and information was there, people could try a strain that's geared towards what they're looking for. Opinions might change then.

Offering a first timer a smoke of god knows what could be like offering a first time drinker a clear liquid, unknown as to what it is, turns out to have the effects of poitin! Could also have the effect of water. The joys of illegal weed!

Just curious have you smoked?

I've done it twice and actually stopped cause I experienced auditory and visual hallucinations. The first time, I was lying down in my bed and suddenly heard my mother calling me in an annoyed voice telling me "mr_fegelien, why haven't you killed yourself yet?" "stop wasting time and kill yourself". It was pretty terrifying.

The second time I was walking and hallucinated some animals staring at me.

I've been told that hallucinations of any kind are not normal if I was smoking weed and that can either mean that

a) I was smoking some other hallucinogen

or

b) I was smoking synthetic cannabis along with have a predisposition to mental illness. (I should state that I've been diagnosed with psychosis and aspergers once in the past but never hallucinated when having a sober psychotic episode. I just got violent and had delusional thoughts)

Rubberchikken · 09-04-2020 5:55am

Drugs are for losers. Alcohol is just a drink that I can take or leave.

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