Why the sudden hysteria over climate change?

rossie1977 wrote: »

How can anyone who lives on this island deny it when we were hit with eastern most Atlantic hurricane

That is most certainly not normal

A hurricane? We’re doomed. Even professor John Sweeney in Maynooth had to admit climate change didn’t cause the hurricane but it contributed to it, which is a bit like saying a chip pan caused a house fire and the box of matched in the house contributed to it

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Pity people still refer to it as road tax then even though road tax hasn’t been in existence for decades upon decades.

Motor tax.

Tell me how wrote: »

So, who do you listen to in order to understand what is going on?

What paper do you read? What news site do you visit? What news or current affairs tv show do you watch? What current affairs show do you listen to on the radio?

All sources you mention are the ones that are exaggerating it.

NIMAN wrote: »

Exactly.

That's what I keep harking back to. The government has the power to put these simple rules in place, but why aren't they doing it if we are supposedly on the edge of a crisis?

All new social housing getting built in Derry has solar panels. And excellent ber ratings.

And surely all new houses should have no chimneys? There is no future in burning turf, coal etc in homes surely.

Solar makes sense where there is a feed in tariff so you get paid for the elec you don't use thst goes back on the grid. If you're out for most of the day, solar elec has limited value. Solar hot water more so.

Also, big solar elec installations skew a BER rating and make the house look more energy efficient than it is because it credits the solar installation with most of the elec generated being used.

There are grants for energy efficiency but energy isn't a subject people get. A lot of people don't really know if they're using more than they should or not. So spending on energy efficiency doesn't always look like good value to a lot of people.

And then energy efficiency is always framed as how much will it cost me and how much will it save me yet will spend a lot more on a new kitchen etc when it doesn't have a payback but is more aesthetic.

As for chimneys, people want a fire of some description. Even if it isn't needed. It may change over time but even now with new builds people want to see fire.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

So fox news isn't a credible news source? I've heard it all now

No. It isn't.

And, what about Gemma O'Doherty? Did you mean to mention her to say that you find her opinion informative and truthful?

Charles Ingles wrote: »

So who is the credible new source for the "enlightened"?

Can you answer the question please.

Do you find Gemma O'Doherty truthful and informative?

Charles Ingles wrote: »

So who is the credible new source for the "enlightened"?

Any outlet which references peer reviewed scientific data or presents evidence which is accessible, up to date and relevant, has guests who are qualified and experienced in a particular field, explores both sides of the argument and doesn't seek to forward an agenda.

Fox News and Gemma O'Doherty couldn't even understand the above let alone adhere to it.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Very few new builds in Dublin have a fire. They give you option of a fire but it is more or less a TV screen.



Most new builds I see have Solar as well, checked and local estate has PV on every house, five acre estate


If the government provided a proper incentive to install Solar PV then FiT would not be required. Then the excess power could be used to provide power to the grid and reduce the requirement on solid fuel burning to create electricity.

Vision. Something the irish government and a large percentage of the population seem to lack

It's changing re fires but people still want stoves. More so down the country.

Most people have solar cos of the regs. Easy way to tick that box.

A FIT would incentivise people to install solar bigger than self consumption to feed back to the grid. Outside of a FIT its hard to see that happening to any great degree

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Only fantasists that agree with you.
This is what happens when people live in echo chambers

Here is what I said I value in helping me become informed (bold added).

Tell me how wrote: »

Any outlet which references peer reviewed scientific data or presents evidence which is accessible, up to date and relevant, has guests who are qualified and experienced in a particular field, explores both sides of the argument and doesn't seek to forward an agenda.

Fox News and Gemma O'Doherty couldn't even understand the above let alone adhere to it.

Take care. The 21st century is going to blow your mind when you get as far as it.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

See everyone doesn’t get the same education

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_century

The university of Wiki?

Charles Ingles wrote: »

I'll be dead and buried long before the 21st century arrives my good friend

I thought claiming Fox News and Gemma O'Doherty were informative was gunna be as funny as things got but nope, it got better.

This is the best post in the whole thread.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Well then the concept of sarcasm goes over your head and most of the others who don't think I know what the 21st century means

I believe you.













See, I can do sarcasm as well.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I grew up on a farm which is still run in my family.
Are you trying to say the current weather patterns haven’t changed? I did post more details
This morning I woke up to frost in the garden, frost in May, that seem strange to you?
If you look at one thing in isolation then yes of course it happened previously, did you happen to ask the older man if he seen the last 24 months of weather before with a mixture of storms/flooding/snow storm/long mild winters/vey hot summers etc etc

Frost in May in Ideland is not unusual no. It a fact the weather changes all the time but pinning down an isolated event as proof of a major looming catastrophe is rubbish. I remember previous droughts such as the one in 70s when the ground was baked so hard it so couldn't be dug or ploughed. Droughts and floods are part of the normal weather cycle.

It stuff like that result in much if the hysteria we are seeing tbh. Theres kids now thinking that think we're all going to be dead in 12 years time and are scared out of their wits. The child Greta was told about this kinda stuff when she was 8 years old, stopped eating and was diagnosed as clinically depressed by the time she was 11as s result.

Tell me how wrote: »

Ok. Can you show some expert opinion which supports your position that alarmed people are being historical. Because, if not, and if you're not qualified to declare this yourself, then all you are doing is giving anecdotal evidence which is of no value.

What you have is an opinion (which you are entitled to have) but policy should not be based on opinions but on fact.

To be fair the poster never claimed the alarmed people are being historical

Tbh the alarmed never go away ...;)

Alarmed people may often be hysterical though - much like the ones claiming we're all going to die in 12 years / 12 years to save earth etc.

tibruit wrote: »

Moving statues ...1980`s.....I witnessed mass hysteria...thousands of people claiming they saw inanimate objects moving. There was one a few miles away and I went along one night and I`d estimate that there were at least a few thousand people there and most of them saw the statue moving. The whole thing was frankly ridiculous but there you go. There were a lot of people there that would have considered it a FACT that the statue was moving.

Unless those people were holding scientific papers documenting and proving the movement of statues, it is irrelevant to this discussion.