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where to get me a cargo bike

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  • #252
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Harrybelafonte wrote: »
    They're work horses, and everyone should have one

    I'm very tempted but right now have 4 bikes and a trailer in my garage (excluding kids balance bike). I'd need some serious space rationalisation to justify it and would still need a reasonable way for my wife to cycle with our boy if I was awol somewhere...


  • #253
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Handling wise... I find the bullitt very similar to a standard mountain bike. Balance, steering etc... all performs as expected. The only difference is that it is a slog up hills with that extra 15kg in the front.


  • #254
    beazee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    I've taken adults out with Cycling Without Age a few times. I found the balance to be dramatically different. It felt all wrong, like the bike was tilted, or about to go over.

    It takes a bit of getting used to, particularly as I'm only doing it now and again.

    Is that w three-wheeler bike you're talking?
    I owned a rickshaw for a year and couldn't get my mind around about not being able to tilt into the turn. Worse if the tarmac was sloped the other way around - it did feel like I was about to flip over to the other side.

    Speaking of two-wheelers (Bullitt) - it's the speed that helps in keeping the bike balanced. Any sudden move from the passenger (especially adult) may knock you off balance but with the higher speed (momentum) it's easier to maintain the course taken.


  • #255
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Spotted this for sale during the week and things moved quickly. Picked up today and just had a great spin home on the cycle track.


  • #256
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Spotted this for sale during the week and things moved quickly. Picked up today and just had a great spin home on the sutton cycle track.

    Very happy :)

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  • #257
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    awesome! does it have seats for the kids or how will that work?


  • #258
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    awesome! does it have seats for the kids or how will that work?

    thanks :)

    yes, theres a little cushioned bench inside the canopy, the whole thing closes up and is rain and wind proof.
    its a slightly narrower space than the croozer but they arent short of room.


  • #259
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    site_owner wrote: »
    Spotted this for sale during the week and things moved quickly. Picked up today and just had a great spin home on the cycle track.

    Cool! What drive system does it have?

    E-cargo bikes have been occupying way too much of my thoughts lately.


  • #260
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Ferris wrote: »
    Cool! What drive system does it have?

    E-cargo bikes have been occupying way too much of my thoughts lately.

    its the shimano steps 6000 version.
    alfine 8 with di2


  • #261
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Never tried the steps system but its great by all accounts. That bike would have cost a fortune new, well bought.


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  • #262
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Ferris wrote: »
    Never tried the steps system but its great by all accounts. That bike would have cost a fortune new, well bought.

    this is my first experience with it, first time on any e-bike. its very smooth getting going at traffic lights and should be great for hills and windy days. first experience is that you dont really notice it coming in, just that pedalling gets a lot easier. i can see why people like them :)

    its not modified, and wont be, so it cuts out at 25kph and i was mostly between 29-32 on the seafront so didn't really get much of a chance to experience it other than when moving off.


  • #263
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Sounds similar to me, I have a bosch system but they're all much of a muchness. The ability to move off quickly from traffic would be a great help in traffic with a heavy bike like yours and it helps build stability quickly. The battery assistance comes into its own in headwinds, uphill and when you're carrying a load.


  • #264
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    On the stability front, I don't have much trouble, though it's hard to keep the steering straight at very low speeds. I think I've just got so used to it now.

    Going over dropped kerbs, keep the steering straight. You have to avoid a situation where the kerb is guiding the front wheel in one direction, and your momentum is pulling the bike in another. So grooves and fissures in the road are another thing to watch out for, and they can canalise the front wheel and make the bike unstable.

    But it mostly comes down to going no faster than brisk, I think. Mind you, if you're on your own, I guess you can test the limits. You just might have to touch up the paintwork on the box if it goes wrong.


  • #265
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    beazee wrote: »
    Is that w three-wheeler bike you're talking?
    I owned a rickshaw for a year and couldn't get my mind around about not being able to tilt into the turn. Worse if the tarmac was sloped the other way around - it did feel like I was about to flip over to the other side.

    Speaking of two-wheelers (Bullitt) - it's the speed that helps in keeping the bike balanced. Any sudden move from the passenger (especially adult) may knock you off balance but with the higher speed (momentum) it's easier to maintain the course taken.
    It's a three wheeler, but with the carriage in front, not behind. The balance takes a lot of getting used to, as you say. I kept feeling initially that it was going to flip over, but it doesn't. The non-leaning into corners is strange, and when going straight, I have this strange feeling that I'm tilted at a slight angle, even though everything looks right.

    Hopefully, experience will help.


  • #266
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    It's a three wheeler, but with the carriage in front, not behind. The balance takes a lot of getting used to, as you say. I kept feeling initially that it was going to flip over, but it doesn't. The non-leaning into corners is strange, and when going straight, I have this strange feeling that I'm tilted at a slight angle, even though everything looks right.

    Hopefully, experience will help.
    Yeah, I know a few people with three-wheelers, and the consensus seems to be that they're harder to cycle, at least until you get used to them, if you're already used to two-wheelers. You have three wheel lines instead of one, which makes avoiding potholes and such like much harder, and, as already said, cornering is a bit weird. Not as weird, I imagine, as cornering on a conventional trike, where the outside rear wheel often comes off the ground.


  • #267
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    beazee wrote: »
    Frame seems to be Manufacturing Year 2013.
    It features the removable dropouts and the old style headset. Before tapered headset was introduced in 2014. The next iteration was rear triangle break to allow for Gates Belt transmission.

    I am aware this only a bidding but GBP1,200 is on the low side for the bike in question. The honeycomb board, sides and Alfine 11 Di2 could easily push the price in the GBP2,000 region.

    1955gbp in the end


  • #268
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    Extra tip actually. In the summer, remove the mudguards and move to Schwalbe Kojacks. Makes a world of difference


  • #269
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Harrybelafonte wrote: »
    Extra tip actually. In the summer, remove the mudguards and move to Schwalbe Kojacks. Makes a world of difference

    Marathons are a dog to cycle on... but should never puncture at least


  • #270
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    Hadn't thought about the tyres being a drag. I value puncture protection pretty highly so I'm not sure I'll switch, will see when summer comes around.

    Has anyone insured their cargo bike? Bikmo quoted me more than the car insurance...


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  • #271
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭kenmc


    site_owner wrote: »
    Hadn't thought about the tyres being a drag. I value puncture protection pretty highly so I'm not sure I'll switch, will see when summer comes around.

    Has anyone insured their cargo bike? Bikmo quoted me more than the car insurance...

    I added mine to the house insurance (fbd), think it was an extra 100 or 150 euro or so, all risks


  • #272
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Marathons are a dog to cycle on... but should never puncture at least

    The Kojacks have Race Guard and I've never punctured on them.


  • #273
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Have a think about how you're going to lock it anyway. I don't have insurance, so nothing to add there. I do have a 110cm-(I think; it's about a metre anyway) -long Abus Granit CityChain X-plus, the built-in nurse's lock on the rear wheel and a Kryptonite Series 2 to secure the front wheel (and make it hard to cycle it way, or wheel it away if they manage to break the Abus). I'd read that it was a good idea to use a chain, because it's hard to get close enough to use a u-lock sometimes, and to make sure the chain was made of strengthened steel, and had links at least 10mm thick.


  • #274
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I *finally*, after months of prevaricating, have put a new rear tyre on the bakfiets.

    Just in case it's helpful to others, I'll post brieffly here.

    I mostly followed the advice here:
    http://bakfiets-adelaide.blogspot.com/2013/09/replacing-rear-tyre-on-cargo-bike-in.html

    I got the rear wheel off the ground by using a little step, such as short people use to reach high kitchen cabinets, covered with some carpet to cushion it a bit and give a little more elevation, and hung the rear wheel over a drop in my garden. I used some bungee cords attached to a bike stand to pull the carrier up a bit, just to make sure the weight of the bike on the step wasn't crimping the cables that run under the main frame tube, but I don't think that was necessary.

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  • #275
    shortie_chik
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭shortie_chik


    I haven't seen any mention of the Butchers and Bicycles MK1-E, but I'm wondering if anyone here owns one / knows anyone who owns one / has tested one out?

    This is the bike I'm talking about. :cool:

    I'm interested in getting a cargo bike to bring my son to creche and later school. I'd prefer to get a trike than a 2-wheeler. The B&B MK1-E is an amazing looking machine, but I'm wondering if anyone really ever actually buys these things? Is it just listed on the website to make the other bikes look like a bargain? :D This costs more than my last car was worth, but I cycle more than I drive.

    Anyone any experience with the Urban Arrow for transporting a child either?

    My current bike is a pretty heavy Kelly's Visage bought in about 2006 for €500 which I thought was a fortune at the time :) but I've gotten every penny worth of value out of it. I've cycled to work for years, not just a fair-weather cyclist so I know I'll get use out of whatever cargo bike I get in the end. Most important is that he is safe and comfortable!

    I'm on maternity leave now until the end of the summer, so I'll probably just daydream about this bike for a few more months, while I wait to win the lotto. :rolleyes: It'd be left in the underground car park at home and I currently park in Drury St car park for work.

    I've seen there's been a cargo bike event in the Phoenix Park the last few years. Haven't come across any mention of it for 2019 yet (or 2018, was it on?) but if it's on I'll get along to it.


  • #276
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Most of the cargo chauffeurs I see around town are two wheeled, there is one trike that participates in Dublin Cycling Campaing Events though. Tried it, not the leaning type, and its strange. If you're scared of balance on two wheels you rapidly get used to it.

    It claims to be E btw and has no motor/pack specs? Strange.
    Anyone any experience with the Urban Arrow for transporting a child either?

    There are 3+ around Dublin, I think. Seem solid.


    If you tweet @DublinCycling asking for input lots of their followers will chime in. Also try https://twitter.com/cargobikelife


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  • #277
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭kenmc


    I saw a butchers going along lower kilmacud road about a year or 18 months ago, but only once. Couple of urban arrows around, plenty of bullits, bakfiets and babboes.
    Personally never considered a trike, wouldn't fancy the brakes getting further away as you turn a corner. Least on a two wheeler, no matter how long, the steering is still the same mechanism


  • #278
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    I see more 3 wheelers on the school run, have rarely seen a 2 wheeler.

    I think it depends on use case.

    3 wheelers seem better over short distances, travel more slowly, are more practical and not great for hills

    2 wheelers are faster and can cover more distance, better for hills (with the right brakes), but the trade off is space

    I have a 2 wheeler as i felt trike cycling style wouldn't sit well with me, i have cycled the bike 30 or 40 after school drop depending on where I need to go, I know i wouldn't do that on a trike.


  • #279
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    shortie_chik wrote: »
    I haven't seen any mention of the Butchers and Bicycles MK1-E, but I'm wondering if anyone here owns one / knows anyone who owns one / has tested one out?

    This is the bike I'm talking about. :cool:

    I'm interested in getting a cargo bike to bring my son to creche and later school. I'd prefer to get a trike than a 2-wheeler. The B&B MK1-E is an amazing looking machine, but I'm wondering if anyone really ever actually buys these things? Is it just listed on the website to make the other bikes look like a bargain? :D This costs more than my last car was worth, but I cycle more than I drive.

    Anyone any experience with the Urban Arrow for transporting a child either?

    My current bike is a pretty heavy Kelly's Visage bought in about 2006 for €500 which I thought was a fortune at the time :) but I've gotten every penny worth of value out of it. I've cycled to work for years, not just a fair-weather cyclist so I know I'll get use out of whatever cargo bike I get in the end. Most important is that he is safe and comfortable!

    I'm on maternity leave now until the end of the summer, so I'll probably just daydream about this bike for a few more months, while I wait to win the lotto. :rolleyes: It'd be left in the underground car park at home and I currently park in Drury St car park for work.

    I've seen there's been a cargo bike event in the Phoenix Park the last few years. Haven't come across any mention of it for 2019 yet (or 2018, was it on?) but if it's on I'll get along to it.

    why not give the guys at Bretzel.ie a shout and ask if you can take a look at theirs? after all b&b use a picture of that bike on their site!

    IMG_9760.jpg


  • #280
    beazee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    shortie_chik wrote: »
    I've seen there's been a cargo bike event in the Phoenix Park the last few years. Haven't come across any mention of it for 2019 yet (or 2018, was it on?) but if it's on I'll get along to it.

    Ask the organiser @mrsFitz:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=210345


  • #281
    shortie_chik
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭shortie_chik


    Thanks for your replies folks!

    I will see if I get any personal experiences from the cargo cyclists on twitter. I've contacted Mrs Fitz to see if the cargo bike event will be on over the summer too.

    I did wonder if it would be a bit cheeky to ask the Bretzel Bakery if I could have a look at their wheels, but maybe they'd be ok with it! :) I'm planning to try out a couple of other cargo bikes the local shops have in store. I've read some online reviews of the B&B but I'd really want to go for a spin myself.

    I'd be planning to use it to go to creche / school in my neighbourhood, and to / from work in the city centre after drop off. Takes me about 30 mins normally, so just short local distances (groceries and appointments etc), no high speed mountain trails planned!


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  • #282
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    shortie_chik wrote: »
    Thanks for your replies folks!

    I will see if I get any personal experiences from the cargo cyclists on twitter. I've contacted Mrs Fitz to see if the cargo bike event will be on over the summer too.

    I did wonder if it would be a bit cheeky to ask the Bretzel Bakery if I could have a look at their wheels, but maybe they'd be ok with it! :) I'm planning to try out a couple of other cargo bikes the local shops have in store. I've read some online reviews of the B&B but I'd really want to go for a spin myself.

    I'd be planning to use it to go to creche / school in my neighbourhood, and to / from work in the city centre after drop off. Takes me about 30 mins normally, so just short local distances (groceries and appointments etc), no high speed mountain trails planned!

    if I were you I'd certainly give the Bretzel Bakery a shout, nothing ventured nothing gained after all! I'm in a similar boat to yourself at the moment, getting more & more curious about cargo bikes for the creche / school / work run as well as general runaround to the shops etc. right now I bring my son to creche on a Weeride seat and also have a trailer for short journeys at weekends etc. the idea of being able to go for longer cycles with my kid (soon to be kids) on an e-cargo bike is very appealing, as is the possibility of further reducing car dependency..


  • #283
    beazee
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    shortie_chik wrote: »
    I did wonder if it would be a bit cheeky to ask the Bretzel Bakery if I could have a look at their wheels, but maybe they'd be ok with it! :)

    Not sure now, but it might have been the Bretzel Bakery B&B MK-1 I've took for a spin in Phoenix Park two years back. The leaning into corners felt strange.

    Unlike the other trikes I've rode (which don't lean) not even what I experience on my two-wheel cargo. Probably something one could get used to - but strange at a start.

    The two-wheelers offer you an advantage when trying to squeeze by in traffic.


  • #284
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    if you are planning on taking it into town, do have a think about your usual route.

    one of mine takes me up north strand onto amiens street, up the quays, acros college green and then up to aungier st.
    i lock up in drury street.

    i'm fine on a 2 wheel, but the width of the B&B (91cm vs the bullitt 46cm) would have me stuck in traffic for most of my route


  • #285
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I found the trikes with two front wheels odd to ride. Cargo bikes take a small setting in time but simply did not enjoy it. Have to be a two wheeler for me.


  • #286
    shortie_chik
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭shortie_chik


    site_owner wrote: »
    if you are planning on taking it into town, do have a think about your usual route.

    one of mine takes me up north strand onto amiens street, up the quays, acros college green and then up to aungier st.
    i lock up in drury street.

    i'm fine on a 2 wheel, but the width of the B&B (91cm vs the bullitt 46cm) would have me stuck in traffic for most of my route


    I come from Castleknock, normally though the Phoenix Park (when it's bright enough, otherwise Navan Rd), up the quays, across Parliament St bridge to Dame St, hop off and cross at the pedestrian light to George's St, and around to Drury St. There are bike lanes for a lot of my route. Even on my regular bike, I can get stuck behind buses coming up the quays pulling in to stops and taxis driving over the line of the cycle lane. :( But I'll be leaving the house mega-early if I have to do a creche drop off so I'll have to give myself extra time for not squeezing past traffic so much anymore.


  • #287
    site_owner
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    butchers & bicycles say on their site that greenaer have a bike for test drive so if you havent already i'd say you could get a look at theirs

    https://www.butchersandbicycles.com/faq.html


  • #288
    shortie_chik
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭shortie_chik


    site_owner wrote:
    butchers & bicycles say on their site that greenaer have a bike for test drive so if you havent already i'd say you could get a look at theirs

    I have contacted them and they don't have one in store at the moment but I'm in no rush. I'll chance my arm contacting the Bretzel Bakery if GreenAer don't have it in the next few months. They know I'm interested anyway, I'm going to call in to try the urban arrow.


  • #289
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    cool, theres also a FB group for the B&B (not specifically irish) but you should get some good user stories etc
    and if theres an irish owner, theres a good chance they could be on it

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/133725557361275/


  • #290
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I see, omitting the cycle couriers, about 8-10 regulars with cargo bikes on my route. I think three of them have three-wheelers, and the rest two-wheelers.

    I think two-wheelers are easier to manoeuvre, easier to store, and, I assume without really knowing, faster. They're pretty stable too, but if I was cycling in the ice, I think I'd prefer a three-wheeler for just that day.


  • #291
    shortie_chik
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭shortie_chik


    tomasrojo wrote:
    I think two-wheelers are easier to manoeuvre, easier to store, and, I assume without really knowing, faster. They're pretty stable too, but if I was cycling in the ice, I think I'd prefer a three-wheeler for just that day.

    Without any experience or actual evidence :) I agree. I've read three wheelers take a bit of getting used to, but I'm hoping to get lots of use out of it so it shouldn't be a problem once I've practised a bit I hope! I'd like to be able to use it every day, assuming no very serious bad weather warnings.


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  • #292
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    shortie_chik wrote: »
    I'm on maternity leave now until the end of the summer, so I'll probably just daydream about this bike for a few more months

    This came up in my feed, thought it worth posting
    https://twitter.com/thismombikes/status/1086334093418057728


  • #293
    shortie_chik
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭shortie_chik


    ED E wrote:
    This came up in my feed, thought it worth posting


    Too late for me! He's 11 weeks old, bump is melted away! (Mostly. The rest to follow when I'm back on my bike again!)


  • #294
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    I've said it earlier in the thread and repeat here, anyone who wants to try out a Bullitt for a week or some can give me a buzz and I'll sort them out as best I can for a trial.


  • #295
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://twitter.com/Bicicleto_ZGZ/status/1088375257944203264


  • #296
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Good price if in good nick, I think:

    https://twitter.com/ellenfromnowon/status/1089581997230641152


  • #297
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Some thoughts on riding a top-class three-wheeler:
    https://twitter.com/bikesandbabies/status/1088846896599363588


  • #298
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Good price if in good nick, I think:

    Sold now.


  • #299
    site_owner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭site_owner


    i needed a bit of extra space at the weekend, the on thing about the bullitt is that it is very much a 2 kid bike :)

    471463.jpg


  • #300
    cdaly_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    site_owner wrote: »
    i needed a bit of extra space at the weekend, the on thing about the bullitt is that it is very much a 2 kid bike :)

    I'm picturing Mrs Owner scrunched up in the Croozer... :D


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  • #301
    Ferris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    site_owner wrote: »
    i needed a bit of extra space at the weekend, the on thing about the bullitt is that it is very much a 2 kid bike :)

    471463.jpg

    a.k.a the Brady bunch setup:D


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