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WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • #552
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    I felt she said Pietro because he said brother.
    She has questioned why he looks different and why his accent is different.

    So i have no idea why it is Fox Quicksilver, but MCU memories (Shot in the street, same body shots when we see the dead version).

    Might be she merged multi-verse fox version with marvel version.

    I'm certainly hoping the answer is something to do with the Fox version, and not just hand-waved away in the end. Would be frustrating if it was just a bait.

    I think you could be right there. Can't remember how that scene went exactly and not arsed watching it again but yeah I think she said it more in a quizzical way after he said he was her brother. His whole personality is different as well. Why would Wanda change up her brother's personality completely.

    I also don't think us seeing him dead actually means that is what he looks like and Wanda is just covering it up using magic. Wanda seen Vision as a dead husk with a hole in his head but when he left the Hex he didn't look that way at all. He looked identical to how he looked in the Hex. Same with Monica, when she left the Hex her clothes were the same. Her seeing Vision and Pietro's corpse must be something else. Maybe her having a break down or a flashback.


  • #553
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,320 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    iguana wrote: »
    Wanda and Pietro had a number of discussions throughout the episode referencing him looking different and her not truly believing he's her brother because he doesn't look like he should.

    and doesn't have the memories he should. she knows he is a different person.


  • #554
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    kerplun k wrote: »
    I don’t think that’s quicksilver from x-men. This one seems a bit mean spirited. The quicksilver from x-men had a similar sense of humour but was much more likeable, but Evan Peters is 100% playing a different character here. I’m
    sure of it. Now in saying that, I’ve gotten almost every prediction wrong so far.

    That's part of the fun of these types of shows. Coming out with theories that sound really good and plausible and finding them turn out to be way off the mark. :D


  • #555
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,320 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    I think you could be right there. Can't remember how that scene went exactly and not arsed watching it again but yeah I think she said it more in a quizzical way after he said he was her brother. His whole personality is different as well. Why would Wanda change up her brother's personality completely.

    I also don't think us seeing him dead actually means that is what he looks like and Wanda is just covering it up using magic. Wanda seen Vision as a dead husk with a hole in his head but when he left the Hex he didn't look that way at all. He looked identical to how he looked in the Hex. Same with Monica, when she left the Hex her clothes were the same. Her seeing Vision and Pietro's corpse must be something else. Maybe her having a break down or a flashback.
    Importantly I don't think Vision left the Hex fully. he was constantly connected to it and being pulled back in by it. and the further he got, the more dead he became..... while being pulled apart.

    so for me that pointed to him still being dead. I hoped, against all evidence, that she had brought him back, but I reckon he was an absolute gonner if the hex hadn't swallowed him up again.


  • #556
    [Deleted User]
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    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    i'll be furious if it is.

    If they wanted a different looking QS, or Aaron Taylor Johnson simply wasnt available then cast someone else. ANYONE ELSE.

    To cast Fox version QS in the role, after Disney bought Fox, with people wondering how and when we will see X-Men in MCU - and for it to mean nothing... would be absolute BS.

    If it isn't linked to the Fox movies, there is litterarly no good reason for it to have been done. It would just be utterly mean-spirited.

    Could also be the Fox Quicksilver but he's being controlled which would explain the mean spirit.


  • #557
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,320 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Could also be the Fox Quicksilver but he's being controlled which would explain the mean spirit.

    He does point out his reason for being there is to cause mayhem and drive up tension in the family (as the freeloading brother in-law sleeping on the couch) - and that is "what you (wanda) wanted". So his entire personality could simply be grounded in the tv trope rather than 'him'


  • #558
    AlmightyCushion
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    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Importantly I don't think Vision left the Hex fully. he was constantly connected to it and being pulled back in by it. and the further he got, the more dead he became..... while being pulled apart.

    so for me that pointed to him still being dead. I hoped, against all evidence, that she had brought him back, but I reckon he was an absolute gonner if the hex hadn't swallowed him up again.

    I think he is still dead but his appearance has changed. If the Hex was to just vanish, I don't think he would look like how he did when Wanda stole him from SWORD.


  • #559
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,310 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Wasn't Wanda just talking about her brother before he appeared? Similar to how Agnes just happened to call over with a doghouse last week. Was said earlier in that episode how she always turns up with just what they need.


  • #560
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,310 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    He does point out his reason for being there is to cause mayhem and drive up tension in the family (as the freeloading brother in-law sleeping on the couch) - and that is "what you (wanda) wanted". So his entire personality could simply be grounded in the tv trope rather than 'him'

    Yeah it's the "jump the shark" moment of bringing in a long lost brother or another unexpected character


  • #561
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,257 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Yeah it's the "jump the shark" moment of bringing in a long lost brother or another unexpected character

    I'm leaning towards this is the villain masquerading as Pietro literally in plain sight; it's what Wanda wanted and he's fcking with her relentlessly over it.


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  • #562
    AlmightyCushion
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Yeah it's the "jump the shark" moment of bringing in a long lost brother or another unexpected character

    So, that is it confirmed
    Pietro is Poochie
    . He has the same sassy attitude and Disney own them now as well so makes sense. They really are bringing everything into the MCU.


  • #563
    Busi_Girl08
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    kerplun k wrote: »
    I don’t think that’s quicksilver from x-men. This one seems a bit mean spirited. The quicksilver from x-men had a similar sense of humour but was much more likeable, but Evan Peters is 100% playing a different character here. I’m
    sure of it. Now in saying that, I’ve gotten almost every prediction wrong so far.

    I agree that his character is off. X-men Peter was a cheeky git sometimes, but he wouldn't exactly pat, say, Jean Grey, on the back, for controlling and trapping thousands of people.

    But I'm not convinced that he's *not* X-Men universe QS. Like others say, I doubt Marvel would make a crossover this big into a red herring.

    He has some of MCU's memories (ie his AoU death), it will be interesting if we see flashes of his Fox memories creep in if/when he starts to "glitch".

    Wanda clearly has about as much control over him as she has over Vision at this stage but then the question is does someone else have *more* control over him, or is he someone else entirely.

    Or, Wanda did really bring him here without realising, and her powers have basically gone beyond even her own understanding and now she's effectively subconsciously made him into a warped manifestation of her own conscience?

    OR: Is the likes of Agnes AN other harnessing her powers and picking up on any of her "wishes" powers, and their plan is to cause this bit of mayhem, ie. rip apart the universe?

    Disclaimer: I've had a couple of glasses of wine so I'm probably overthinking it.


  • #564
    Mitch Connor
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    if you also look at the fact the 'previously on' pieces have changed, which implies they are in-universe catch ups that SWORD would see on their tvs, in this week's episiode Wanda showed them MCU Pietro being being killed, prior to Fox Pietro being shown.

    So it is another pointer of Wanda telling sword this is NOT her Pietro.


  • #565
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Something occurred to me while watching this episode. In the initial episodes Vision was totally innocent but as the decades have kept moving on he has become more aware and more open about his increasing awareness. It struck me that is also true of the tv shows of each era. In the 50s and 60s the shows were very innocent and depicted more wholesome/perfect lives. In the late 60s/70s they were becoming slightly more nuanced and the stories and jokes gave little nudge, nudge, wink, wink references to reality. By the 80s, shows were socially aware, open about sex and drugs but certainly lectured their audience to be good. By the Malcolm in the Middle era tv sitcoms presented much harsher sides of family life. Vision's realisation that something was wrong and his willingness to confront it, matches the way tv sitcoms presented family life in each era to some degree.


  • #566
    CastorTroy
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    I'm sure it was pointed out already but Agnes was just credited as "Agnes"

    And this is an example of why being weekly is actually not all bad. Would this thread be nearly 600 posts long if not for all the theories and discussion? If all episodes were released at once, people would be scared to come in here until they watch it, make a few comments, then mostly move on.


  • #567
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm sure it was pointed out already but Agnes was just credited as "Agnes"

    And this is an example of why being weekly is actually not all bad. Would this thread be nearly 600 posts long if not for all the theories and discussion? If all episodes were released at once, people would be scared to come in here until they watch it, make a few comments, then mostly move on.

    At the moment, I find looking forward to a TV show each week is the most I have going on. :D


  • #568
    AlmightyCushion
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    What happens to the frozen people? When Pietro asks where she was hiding the kids, he says he assumes they were just lying peacefully in their beds until now. Surely they need to eat and drink, piss and shít. Is that what the ad with the kid not being able to eat food was about? Are these people who are frozen dying?


  • #569
    Mitch Connor
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    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    What happens to the frozen people? When Pietro asks where she was hiding the kids, he says he assumes they were just lying peacefully in their beds until now. Surely they need to eat and drink, piss and shít. Is that what the ad with the kid not being able to eat food was about? Are these people who are frozen dying?

    Oooooooohhhhhhh that is a great, and effing dark, shout!


  • #570
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,310 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Was the kids he referred to not the twins and the fact they seemed to come from nowhere as 10 year olds, or whatever age they are.

    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.


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  • #571
    siblers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,600 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    That scientist/hacker one is very annoying and one dimensional. She adds nothing to the show


  • #572
    [Deleted User]
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    iguana wrote: »
    Something occurred to me while watching this episode. In the initial episodes Vision was totally innocent but as the decades have kept moving on he has become more aware and more open about his increasing awareness. It struck me that is also true of the tv shows of each era. In the 50s and 60s the shows were very innocent and depicted more wholesome/perfect lives. In the late 60s/70s they were becoming slightly more nuanced and the stories and jokes gave little nudge, nudge, wink, wink references to reality. By the 80s, shows were socially aware, open about sex and drugs but certainly lectured their audience to be good. By the Malcolm in the Middle era tv sitcoms presented much harsher sides of family life. Vision's realisation that something was wrong and his willingness to confront it, matches the way tv sitcoms presented family life in each era to some degree.

    Good call. Remember in episode 2 the two single beds merged into one? That was also an example of a very slight increase in raunchiness, which happened in the late 60s, and although not self aware Vision was playing a “drunk”, and the action was more natural.

    Why is Wanda doing this this way though? These are actually what is being transmitted so she is in control of what is being seen within the hex and broadcast. There may be no in universe explanation for that.


  • #573
    AlmightyCushion
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Was the kids he referred to not the twins and the fact they seemed to come from nowhere as 10 year olds, or whatever age they are.

    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.

    No, he was talking about all the people. Mentions about her keeping the families together, personalities mostly the same. Plus a few episodes back Vision asks her why are there no kids about.

    It is just Wanda setting up the "episode". We're doing a Halloween special today so she just magics everyone into position and changes their clothing.


  • #574
    Slydice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Alex Garland:
    The Movie: Annihilation
    Kevin Feige:
    Hold my Brewery!

    6: That was cool! I mean like.. not much more to say! Expecting
    Monica Rambeau's surprise contact is gonna be someone high enough level next episode!


  • #575
    Ave Sodalis
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    Mitch Connor wrote:
    He does point out his reason for being there is to cause mayhem and drive up tension in the family (as the freeloading brother in-law sleeping on the couch) - and that is "what you (wanda) wanted". So his entire personality could simply be grounded in the tv trope rather than 'him'

    Yeah, I think he's acting that way because that's how he's supposed to act for the "show", but he's a bit of an anomaly in the same way Agnes and Norm are. They're more self aware than other characters. Perhaps it's because they're interacting more with Wanda (since the further away they are, the less people act until they stop moving), or maybe they're plants for and/or are a secondary influence.
    CastorTroy wrote:
    Wasn't Wanda just talking about her brother before he appeared? Similar to how Agnes just happened to call over with a doghouse last week. Was said earlier in that episode how she always turns up with just what they need.

    The doghouse I believe was directly Wanda, and it was implied she causes that. Her brother seemed a complete shock to her, and it doesn't seem that she actually had any (at least conscious) control over that.
    CastorTroy wrote:
    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.

    Either because they were manifested like that, or because they, like Vision, weren't given anything else to wear.


  • #576
    Varik
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    So next episode we're probably getting the mockumentary style from Modern Family or can anyone think of a show that came out before that but after Malcom in the Middle.


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  • #577
    The White Wolf
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    Varik wrote: »
    So next episode we're probably getting the mockumentary style from Modern Family or can anyone think of a show that came out before that but after Malcom in the Middle.

    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.


  • #578
    fritzelly
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    The White Wolf wrote: »
    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.

    Hope so

    I'm enjoying it more now it's all out of the way


  • #579
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    The White Wolf wrote: »
    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.

    Actually the modern family talking to the camera thing might drive a few things along.
    It would be a very handy way to break the 4th wall.


  • #580
    [Deleted User]
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    salmocab wrote: »
    Actually the modern family talking to the camera thing might drive a few things along.
    It would be a very handy way to break the 4th wall.

    Yes, I agree. It’s also a fairly new style which defines the post Office age.

    They might get rid of it in a few episodes though. As a causal watcher of Marvel movies or enjoyed the cleverness of the sitcoms. The other world building doesn’t really interest me.


  • #581
    pah
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    I'm pretty I've read all the posts here and no mention of the play on words that is the shows title?

    Good episode again this week, moving things along at a nice pace. I'm looking forward to each weeks episode.


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  • #582
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    i'll be furious if it is.

    If they wanted a different looking QS, or Aaron Taylor Johnson simply wasnt available then cast someone else. ANYONE ELSE.

    To cast Fox version QS in the role, after Disney bought Fox, with people wondering how and when we will see X-Men in MCU - and for it to mean nothing... would be absolute BS.

    If it isn't linked to the Fox movies, there is litterarly no good reason for it to have been done. It would just be utterly mean-spirited.

    I think it would be brilliant tbh but I think they will reference it even if he isn't going to be the X QS.

    Another great episode, I'm still not sure what think about what's going on and who's controlling everything. I really hope it's not Wanda because they'll have a fair old time trying to redeem her after all this.


  • #583
    flazio
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    I'll be honest, I reckon a decent editor could make a coherent motion picture out of what we have seen so far without reshoots. This has been made into a series for the sake of getting 2 months worth of Disney+ subscriptions out of Marvel fans.
    I'm enjoying it, but I don't think it has rewatch value in this format.


  • #584
    hynesie08
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Was the kids he referred to not the twins and the fact they seemed to come from nowhere as 10 year olds, or whatever age they are.

    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.

    That was my take, that the characters are in stasis when they are not needed for the "scene". Wanda had set up an elaborate trick or treat route, but visions "neighbourhood watch" meant the scene never happened.


  • #585
    Busi_Girl08
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    flazio wrote: »
    I'll be honest, I reckon a decent editor could make a coherent motion picture out of what we have seen so far without reshoots. This has been made into a series for the sake of getting 2 months worth of Disney+ subscriptions out of Marvel fans.
    I'm enjoying it, but I don't think it has rewatch value in this format.

    I dunno, I could see some hardcore marvel fans giving the show a rewatch in years to come as the next stage of the MCU films and tv progresses.

    Spoilering the below because it's movie theorising, just in case.
    Not sure how much of an MCU fan you are, but if you remember in the lead-up to Endgame there were countless recommendations on previous movies to watch and focus on, like Thor Dark World, Winter Soldier, etc. I can see similar happen down the line when Phase 4 or higher progresses and we head towards the next big Endgame moment, as this is really what will probably kick everything off.


  • #586
    CastorTroy
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    I'm wondering what happens between the sitcom episodes. Like is there a marathon on and we only see 1 episode of each decade? Or does it go on repeat? Does it just go off air?
    Darcy tuned in to the first episode we saw. What was happening in there before that?


  • #587
    [Deleted User]
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm wondering what happens between the sitcom episodes. Like is there a marathon on and we only see 1 episode of each decade? Or does it go on repeat? Does it just go off air?
    Darcy tuned in to the first episode we saw. What was happening in there before that?

    Ya it really wouldn't be bad explaining that although I'm not sure if all of this may be happening in rapid succession. Are we actually sure multiple days have passed? It anyways seems to be night in the real world iirc.


  • #588
    klose
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm wondering what happens between the sitcom episodes. Like is there a marathon on and we only see 1 episode of each decade? Or does it go on repeat? Does it just go off air?
    Darcy tuned in to the first episode we saw. What was happening in there before that?

    Think it was said they people monitoring the show watch it the whole time and there's multiple episodes we aren't seeing?


  • #589
    FunLover18
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    klose wrote: »
    Think it was said they people monitoring the show watch it the whole time and there's multiple episodes we aren't seeing?

    When Darcy first saw Monica in the show it was a clip from an episode we hadn't seen before.


  • #590
    flazio
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    Is it likely that the people on the outskirts of Westville are starving to death because they can't move to feed themselves?


  • #591
    Agent Coulson
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    Any ideas what the Yo-Magic ad is going to reference going forward as I can't place it from anything already inside the the MCU world like the previous ads.

    Edit: I'm guessing it is to do with the people inside the bubble not eating.

    Nicely dark if it is.


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  • #592
    Brief_Lives
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    flazio wrote: »
    Is it likely that the people on the outskirts of Westville are starving to death because they can't move to feed themselves?

    thats a bit too grim for Disney


  • #593
    Busi_Girl08
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    Brief_Lives wrote: »
    thats a bit too grim for Disney

    Especially when you consider where all the other kids were before Halloween :eek:

    Were they all just stuck in stasis somewhere, or in their beds like Peter suggested the whole time? I can't imagine she manufactured them all.


  • #594
    FunLover18
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    flazio wrote: »
    Is it likely that the people on the outskirts of Westville are starving to death because they can't move to feed themselves?

    I had to go back and rewind because I wasn’t sure if this was the real skeleton of a child who had died and decayed or a costume. I actually think it’s just a decoration because I don’t think even if someone had died they would have decayed that quickly.


  • #595
    brianregan09
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Any ideas what the Yo-Magic ad is going to reference going forward as I can't place it from anything already inside the the MCU world like the previous ads.

    Edit: I'm guessing it is to do with the people inside the bubble not eating.

    Nicely dark if it is.

    I took the yomagic thing as the kid couldn't break the seal so he died , so the people inside can't break the seal so they're going to die


  • #596
    CastorTroy
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    FunLover18 wrote: »
    When Darcy first saw Monica in the show it was a clip from an episode we hadn't seen before.

    Did she not see her in the second episode we saw when they were at the garden committee meeting, or whatever it was?


  • #597
    FunLover18
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Did she not see her in the second episode we saw when they were at the garden committee meeting, or whatever it was?

    Nope it was a scene with Monica sitting on a bench the foreground while Wanda talked with Agnes in the background. Then she saw them at the committee and remarked that she'd be upgraded to a speaking part.


  • #598
    CastorTroy
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    Would've been funny if, for the 90's sitcom, they chose to do That 70's Show. :)


  • #599
    paulie1983
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Would've been funny if, for the 90's sitcom, they chose to do That 70's Show. :)

    They skipped the 90s sitcom but a Full House skit would have been nice with Quicksilver doing an Uncle Jesse bit with the kids.


  • #600
    PTH2009
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    A little disappointed with this weeks episode but things are ticking along nicely


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  • #601
    weldoninhio
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    paulie1983 wrote: »
    They skipped the 90s sitcom but a Full House skit would have been nice with Quicksilver doing an Uncle Jesse bit with the kids.

    The beginning of the latest episode was Malcolm in the Middle


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