The Football Tips Thread IV

warder6161 · 23-03-2013 8:39pm

outside the main leagues segunda in spain ponferradina might be worth a look 9/5 and 22pts ahead of last placed opposition

greenman09 · 23-03-2013 8:51pm

warder6161 wrote: »

outside the main leagues segunda in spain ponferradina might be worth a look 9/5 and 22pts ahead of last placed opposition

Wee 20 on this. 22 pts is a big gap and at 9/5 I'm all over it

Lasagna Diarra · 23-03-2013 10:28pm

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

Toulouse @ ~1.55 (French Volleyball)

Last game of the season, Toulouse need to win to secure survival, Ajaccio need to win and others to fail to be in the play offs. Toulouse have won 7 of their last 8 home games, Ajaccio have lost 8 of their last 10 away games. Toulouse are playing at home tonight.

Get in!! What a day!

ShamoBuc · 23-03-2013 10:52pm

warder6161 wrote: »

outside the main leagues segunda in spain ponferradina might be worth a look 9/5 and 22pts ahead of last placed opposition

Great spot - won 2-1.

mailburner · 23-03-2013 11:20pm

great picking lads
didnt do any soccer today
volleyball, rugby, loi, lower spanish leagues
jaysus, what next?

the bookies get away with nothing here

eh i dunno · 23-03-2013 11:32pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Dundalk double chance/Finn Harps double chance @ 1.88

both win

UnknownSpecies · 24-03-2013 12:25am

eh i dunno wrote: »

both win

Nervous enough at the end when UCD got a goal back. Myself and two friends had Dundalk, Finn Harps and Tahiti treble @ 9.2/1 so were happy with that.

greenman09 · 24-03-2013 12:27am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Great spot - won 2-1.

I'll take that

Avfctom · 24-03-2013 12:33pm

Just been looking through the remaining premier league fixtures and thinking

Sunderland to be relegated at 5/2 looks a great bet they have by far the hardest run in are in terrible form and even got there manager saying they lack quality wigan are wigan and been there done it think they will survive southampton are pulling big results out the bag and my beloved villa finally seem to of found some form and hanging onto leads and with weimann benteke agbonlahor upfront have firepower to hurt any team reading look dead to me think it is now between

Villa
Wigan
Southampton
Sunderland
QPR

Out of those 5 i think QPR and sunderland will go

Thinking of going really big on sunderland

Any opinions welcome

Drogmal · 24-03-2013 1:36pm

Avfctom wrote: »

Just been looking through the remaining premier league fixtures and thinking

Sunderland to be relegated at 5/2 looks a great bet they have by far the hardest run in are in terrible form and even got there manager saying they lack quality wigan are wigan and been there done it think they will survive southampton are pulling big results out the bag and my beloved villa finally seem to of found some form and hanging onto leads and with weimann benteke agbonlahor upfront have firepower to hurt any team reading look dead to me think it is now between

Villa
Wigan
Southampton
Sunderland
QPR

Out of those 5 i think QPR and sunderland will go

Thinking of going really big on sunderland

Any opinions welcome

It's a great price on Sunderland one I'm going to take myself. They have the worst centre back pairing in the premiership in Bramble and O Shea. They have no creativity in central midfield and a tactically limited manager with no plan B. They are on awful form in the league with three draws and 4 losses in their last 7.

Their next 4 games are United, Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton.

Very good bet imo and have taken 100/30 price on betfair.

JLoftus · 24-03-2013 1:47pm

Avfctom wrote: »

Just been looking through the remaining premier league fixtures and thinking

Sunderland to be relegated at 5/2 looks a great bet they have by far the hardest run in are in terrible form and even got there manager saying they lack quality wigan are wigan and been there done it think they will survive southampton are pulling big results out the bag and my beloved villa finally seem to of found some form and hanging onto leads and with weimann benteke agbonlahor upfront have firepower to hurt any team reading look dead to me think it is now between

Villa
Wigan
Southampton
Sunderland
QPR

Out of those 5 i think QPR and sunderland will go

Thinking of going really big on sunderland

Any opinions welcome

Drogmal wrote: »

It's a great price on Sunderland one I'm going to take myself. They have the worst centre back pairing in the premiership in Bramble and O Shea. They have no creativity in central midfield and a tactically limited manager with no plan B. They are on awful form in the league with three draws and 4 losses in their last 7.

Their next 4 games are United, Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton.

Very good bet imo and have taken 100/30 price on betfair.

Looks like it has a right chance anyway lads! got on myself a couple of weeks ago at 10/1, you can still get 7/2 with paddys and stan james.

Avfctom · 24-03-2013 1:54pm

Drogmal wrote: »

It's a great price on Sunderland one I'm going to take myself. They have the worst centre back pairing in the premiership in Bramble and O Shea. They have no creativity in central midfield and a tactically limited manager with no plan B. They are on awful form in the league with three draws and 4 losses in their last 7.

Their next 4 games are United, Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton.

Very good bet imo and have taken 100/30 price on betfair.

After there next four games I expect them to be in the bottom 3 at which point they travel to villa park which will be a huge game could send them down and with villa wigan having winnable fixtures coming up the price just looks better and better any idea the injury Fletcher sustained for Scotland if he's out that's a massive blow

ShamoBuc · 24-03-2013 1:55pm

JLoftus wrote: »

Looks like it has a right chance anyway lads! got on myself a couple of weeks ago at 10/1, you can still get 7/2 with paddys and stan james.

At 7/2 it really is too tempting.

FatRat · 24-03-2013 2:07pm

Not to mind all that but Wigan even have a game in hand to Sunderland!!!!! Definitely worth a punt at 7/2. I'm gonna throw a bit on it myself.

FatRat · 24-03-2013 2:36pm

I know they drew 1-1 with Finland .... but 13/10 for Spain to beat France is surely too good to miss?

PurpleSt4in · 24-03-2013 2:55pm

Ghana v Sudan
Ghana really need all three points to push on for WC qualification. Ghana beat Lesotho 7-0 in the opening game at home, then lost to Zambia 1-0 away. This Sudan team actually beat Zambia, but because they fielded an ineligible player the 3 points went to Zambia, but they also drew 0-0 with that same Lesotho team away! Ghana welcome back Muntari who was missing for the Zambia game, but are missing Ayew & Atsu who are two big enough losses. I still think Ghana should have the quality to beat this Sudan side. Sudan didn't even qualify for the African Cup of Nations group stages, they lost to Ethiopia in the preliminary round, Ethiopia then going on to finishing last in their group without a point! Ghana were extremely disappointed with their 4th place finish in the African Cup of Nations, losing on pens in the semi's. This is their first time playing since that loss (if you don't count the 3rd place play-off) so they'll be out to prove a point. If Ghana click they'll walk this one. I predict Ghana to grab all three points. I can't decide whether to go Ghana -1 or Ghana to win to nil. I have a small stake on Ghana 3-0 at the minute.

eh i dunno · 24-03-2013 3:13pm

over 1.5 in the 3 LOI games @2.34

Avfctom · 24-03-2013 3:26pm

FatRat wrote: »

Not to mind all that but Wigan even have a game in hand to Sunderland!!!!! Definitely worth a punt at 7/2. I'm gonna throw a bit on it myself.

Don't worry about that game in hand its man city away

inforfun · 24-03-2013 3:55pm

FatRat wrote: »

I know they drew 1-1 with Finland .... but 13/10 for Spain to beat France is surely too good to miss?

Only saw the last 30 mins or so of Spain - France but France was the much better team back then and really deserved the draw if not a better result.

1-0 France or 1-1 seems the most logic outcome to me.
Spain has quite a few good strikers but they dont put them on the pitch.

Lord TSC · 24-03-2013 3:57pm

JLoftus wrote: »

Looks like it has a right chance anyway lads! got on myself a couple of weeks ago at 10/1, you can still get 7/2 with paddys and stan james.

Tempted by that 7/2

Going to wait and see how I do tomorrow first though.

FatRat · 24-03-2013 4:03pm

inforfun wrote: »

Only saw the last 30 mins or so of Spain - France but France was the much better team back then and really deserved the draw if not a better result.

1-0 France or 1-1 seems the most logic outcome to me.
Spain has quite a few good strikers but they dont put them on the pitch.

I personally think Spain have too much class for France. In the big games, they will step up and win. I think they'll dominate possession and win comfortably regardless of good strikers. So long as their best midfield is on the pitch... Torres will do.

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Tempted by that 7/2

Going to wait and see how I do tomorrow first though.

Yeah, if the LOI games go well today I'm all over it. If not... Sunderland better stay up. Fletcher is injured also, probably be out for the next couple of games at least. So I dont think Sunderland will get anything at all in their next 4. United, Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton will beat them. They might scrape a point or two at most.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 24-03-2013 4:11pm

Cork Finally playing with 2 strikers,

Team Lineup
Mark McNulty (G)
John Dunleavy (D)
Danny Murphy (D)
Dan Murray (D)
Kevin Murray (D)
Daryl Horgan (M)
Colin Healy (M)
Shane Duggan (M)
Gearóid Morrissey (M)
Daryl Kavanagh (F)
Danny Furlong (F)
Darren Dennehy (Sub)
Kevin Burns (Sub)
Garry Buckley (Sub)
Denis Behan (Sub)
Danny Morrissey (Sub)
Adam Rundle (Sub)
Ian Turner (Sub)

They will not drop many points at home this season,

Cork City win @ 2.40 5/10
Cork City City Asian -1 @ 4.150 1/10

Game goals over 2.5 @ 2.30 4/10

Lasagna Diarra · 24-03-2013 4:26pm

FatRat wrote: »

I know they drew 1-1 with Finland .... but 13/10 for Spain to beat France is surely too good to miss?

We managed to get a draw in Spain and we had lots of chances in that game. The atmosphere in the team is great, the new players (Pogba and Varane) are delighted to be here and Pogba was pretty good vs Georgia. We have lots of players in the team who have a good mentality and who are happy to represent France (unlike in the past). The only player who doesn't seem to care about France is Benzema, but playing vs Spain might motivate him this time.

I see a draw in this game personally, Spain can't afford to lose and we'd be happy with a draw as we'd remain top of the group.

inforfun · 24-03-2013 4:27pm

Cork so score 2 or more @2.62?

SteelyDanJalapeno · 24-03-2013 4:30pm

inforfun wrote: »

Cork so score 2 or more @2.62?

Yeah I like it, fancy Furlong to score again, and Horgan and Kavanagh are always threats

PurpleSt4in · 24-03-2013 4:41pm

Further from my last post; Sudan have only scored 1 goal away from home in their last 8. That was against Somalia who have lost 9/10 last matches. Ghana have kept clean sheets in 5/8 of their last home games. Out of the games they conceded, one was a friendly vs TUnisia with bags of goals (4-2) and the other was against Mali where they got a player sent off. Ghana to win to nil @ 4/6 looks value to me, even with the absence of Ayew and Atsu.

Lord TSC · 24-03-2013 4:42pm

Following Cork Over 1.5 goals and Ghana -1 with small stakes

PurpleSt4in · 24-03-2013 4:44pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Following Cork Over 1.5 goals and Ghana -1 with small stakes

I would be more confident in Ghana to win to nil! I shall be watching the game closely...

Lord TSC · 24-03-2013 4:52pm

PurpleSt4in wrote: »

I would be more confident in Ghana to win to nil! I shall be watching the game closely...

I hate win to nil bets. Mainly because it means one team cannot slip up for even a few seconds over 90+ minutes, and I rarely trust any team to do that

user2011 · 24-03-2013 5:25pm

Speaking of Sunderland. Just looking at United last few results 5 clean sheets and with Fletcher out United win to nil 15/8 with skybet?

PurpleSt4in · 24-03-2013 6:56pm

PurpleSt4in wrote: »

Ghana v Sudan
Ghana really need all three points to push on for WC qualification. Ghana beat Lesotho 7-0 in the opening game at home, then lost to Zambia 1-0 away. This Sudan team actually beat Zambia, but because they fielded an ineligible player the 3 points went to Zambia, but they also drew 0-0 with that same Lesotho team away! Ghana welcome back Muntari who was missing for the Zambia game, but are missing Ayew & Atsu who are two big enough losses. I still think Ghana should have the quality to beat this Sudan side. Sudan didn't even qualify for the African Cup of Nations group stages, they lost to Ethiopia in the preliminary round, Ethiopia then going on to finishing last in their group without a point! Ghana were extremely disappointed with their 4th place finish in the African Cup of Nations, losing on pens in the semi's. This is their first time playing since that loss (if you don't count the 3rd place play-off) so they'll be out to prove a point. If Ghana click they'll walk this one. I predict Ghana to grab all three points. I can't decide whether to go Ghana -1 or Ghana to win to nil. I have a small stake on Ghana 3-0 at the minute.

PurpleSt4in wrote: »

Further from my last post; Sudan have only scored 1 goal away from home in their last 8. That was against Somalia who have lost 9/10 last matches. Ghana have kept clean sheets in 5/8 of their last home games. Out of the games they conceded, one was a friendly vs TUnisia with bags of goals (4-2) and the other was against Mali where they got a player sent off. Ghana to win to nil @ 4/6 looks value to me, even with the absence of Ayew and Atsu.

Ghana 4 Sudan 0

francie81 · 24-03-2013 7:45pm

I done a double Tyrone (GAA) & Mark Quigley (1st Goal Bohs) but since that game finished 0-0 and he came on do I still get my stake on just the single am wondering?

Thanks

Blatter · 24-03-2013 7:55pm

user2011 wrote: »

Speaking of Sunderland. Just looking at United last few results 5 clean sheets and with Fletcher out United win to nil 15/8 with skybet?

I'd be careful. Man Utd have their FA cup replay with Chelsea only two days later on the Monday. They will definitely prioritize that game given they're 15 points ahead in the league. They'll probably field a fairly unfamiliar back 4, something like Buttner, Evans, Smalling, Rafael. Rooney, van Persie, Carrick etc. more than likely won't start either. There's not huge motivation for United to win this one either, I'd be wary.

skeleton_boy · 24-03-2013 8:12pm

francie81 wrote: »

I done a double Tyrone (GAA) & Mark Quigley (1st Goal Bohs) but since that game finished 0-0 and he came on do I still get my stake on just the single am wondering?

Thanks

If the player comes on before the first goal then the bet stands I'm afraid.

francie81 · 24-03-2013 8:18pm

skeleton_boy wrote: »

If the player comes on before the first goal then the bet stands I'm afraid.

Right I was thinking along them lines cheers buddy.

MonkstownHoop · 24-03-2013 8:24pm

francie81 wrote: »

I done a double Tyrone (GAA) & Mark Quigley (1st Goal Bohs) but since that game finished 0-0 and he came on do I still get my stake on just the single am wondering?

Thanks

well since he doesnt play for bohs your whole bet was gone anyway :rolleyes:

user2011 · 24-03-2013 8:38pm

Blatter wrote: »

I'd be careful. Man Utd have their FA cup replay with Chelsea only two days later on the Monday. They will definitely prioritize that game given they're 15 points ahead in the league. They'll probably field a fairly unfamiliar back 4, something like Buttner, Evans, Smalling, Rafael. Rooney, van Persie, Carrick etc. more than likely won't start either. There's not huge motivation for United to win this one either, I'd be wary.

Totally missed that! I'll give that a big miss so.

Jackobyte · 24-03-2013 9:02pm

tinodz wrote: »

Both SkyBet and Paddy have removed odds for the Copenhagen/Skive match now. They were accepting bets last night when I checked.

LadB have just closed the market too, The odds went 26/1 to 16/1 then shut in the last 10 minutes

Bet365 are insane. I saw odds jump from 28/1 to 6/1

There is obviosuly something VERY suspicious about that match. Not sure if the HT/FT bet a few of us are on will come in though

Had money on this from Friday on Bet365, but had my bet voided. Not sure if the rest of you got so lucky?

Headshot · 25-03-2013 12:07am

I dont tend to bet on friendlies but nice odds on Russia DC

frat · 25-03-2013 12:28am

I think the next 2rounds are very important in terms of the relegation battle. Wigan have 2 very winnable games at home to Norwich and Away to QPR, whereas Sunderland (Utd at home and Chelsea away) are unlikely to pick up any points and Villa could do well to pick up 1 point (Liverpool at home and Stoke away).

Will lay Wigan to get relegated at evens and back for profit, hopefully, after the next 2rounds.

7/2 and 7/4 for Sunderland and villa to be relegated will be a lot shorter in 2weeks IMO, just have to pick which one I fancy going down btw them. Considering Sunderland have home games against Everton, Stoke and Southampton and the only game I see that Villa should be winning (or i can genuinely see them winning) is at home to Fulham - ill have a decent bet on villa to go down for some interest in the last 8 games.

eh i dunno · 25-03-2013 12:49am

Hearing Fletcher out for the season for those backing Sunderland to go down. Wouldn't back it myself though

Avfctom · 25-03-2013 10:32am

frat wrote: »

I think the next 2rounds are very important in terms of the relegation battle. Wigan have 2 very winnable games at home to Norwich and Away to QPR, whereas Sunderland (Utd at home and Chelsea away) are unlikely to pick up any points and Villa could do well to pick up 1 point (Liverpool at home and Stoke away).

Will lay Wigan to get relegated at evens and back for profit, hopefully, after the next 2rounds.

7/2 and 7/4 for Sunderland and villa to be relegated will be a lot shorter in 2weeks IMO, just have to pick which one I fancy going down btw them. Considering Sunderland have home games against Everton, Stoke and Southampton and the only game I see that Villa should be winning (or i can genuinely see them winning) is at home to Fulham - ill have a decent bet on villa to go down for some interest in the last 8 games.

Villa already beat liverpool at anfield think we can get something at home
Stoke have been in shocking form we have been to tougher places and won
I can see us beating fulham and Sunderland at home

Let's say villa beat fulham and Sunderland at home that takes them to 36 points with

Liverpool home
Stoke away
United away
Norwich away
Wigan away
Chelsea home

Out of those 6 I can see a minimum of 3 points which would be 39 points and safe

Where as Sunderland if villa and wigan do pick up points in there winnable games
After Sunderland next four games of Everton Newcastle united Chelsea I can't see anymore than 2 points from those games which means they could travel to villa park in the bottom 3 after 11 games without a win and if villa pick up 3 points against fulham and 1 point from either liverpool or stoke and wigan beat noriwch get a point off qpr your looking at if villa win that game opening up a 7 point gap with 4 games to go so at 7/2 I'm all over Sunderland to go down as I see that situation panning out

Villa for me despite being a villa fan I have feared relegation all year but now I can say after back to back wins for the first time in two years narrowly losing tl man city and arsenal taking a point from Goodison where Everton equalized with the last kick of the game we have the momentum and the young players finally seem to be learning from there mistakes and holding onto leads think we will stay up comfortably

frat · 25-03-2013 11:30am

Avfctom wrote: »

Villa already beat liverpool at anfield think we can get something at home
Stoke have been in shocking form we have been to tougher places and won
I can see us beating fulham and Sunderland at home

Let's say villa beat fulham and Sunderland at home that takes them to 36 points with

Liverpool home
Stoke away
United away
Norwich away
Wigan away
Chelsea home

Out of those 6 I can see a minimum of 3 points which would be 39 points and safe

Where as Sunderland if villa and wigan do pick up points in there winnable games
After Sunderland next four games of Everton Newcastle united Chelsea I can't see anymore than 2 points from those games which means they could travel to villa park in the bottom 3 after 11 games without a win and if villa pick up 3 points against fulham and 1 point from either liverpool or stoke and wigan beat noriwch get a point off qpr your looking at if villa win that game opening up a 7 point gap with 4 games to go so at 7/2 I'm all over Sunderland to go down as I see that situation panning out

Villa for me despite being a villa fan I have feared relegation all year but now I can say after back to back wins for the first time in two years narrowly losing tl man city and arsenal taking a point from Goodison where Everton equalized with the last kick of the game we have the momentum and the young players finally seem to be learning from there mistakes and holding onto leads think we will stay up comfortably

We can sit here all day going through potential results/permutations, ill stick with my bet though and hope it wins. Best of luck!

Avfctom · 25-03-2013 11:35am

frat wrote: »

We can sit here all day going through potential results/permutations, ill stick with my bet though and hope it wins. Best of luck!

Fair enough just think your betting on villa not to get 6-9 points out of 24 and at 7/4 is a poor bet IMO

Best of luck though bud but as a villa fan hope benteke goes a long way to it losing lol

frat · 25-03-2013 11:38am

Avfctom wrote: »

Fair enough just think your betting on villa not to get 6-9 points out of 24 and at 7/4 is a poor bet IMO

Best of luck though bud but as a villa fan hope benteke goes a long way to it losing lol

Lol, good luck bud!

Bateman · 25-03-2013 12:25pm

Anyone else fancy France to stuff Spain and crank up some pressure on them?

They will be missing Jordi Alba and there are enough signs that a big away game is not really what they need right now.

I know St Denis isn't exactly a terribly hostile place but great teams tend to fall from grace quickly and without many people predicting it.

I suppose the draw is a serious runner but I think France have the tools to beat them.

Shane St. · 25-03-2013 12:33pm

Blatter wrote: »

I'd be careful. Man Utd have their FA cup replay with Chelsea only two days later on the Monday. They will definitely prioritize that game given they're 15 points ahead in the league. They'll probably field a fairly unfamiliar back 4, something like Buttner, Evans, Smalling, Rafael. Rooney, van Persie, Carrick etc. more than likely won't start either. There's not huge motivation for United to win this one either, I'd be wary.

I was thinking of going huge on Sunderland +1. As a Utd fan myself I think we can afford to lose this one and a draw is not a disaster. It's going to be a shadow side with the Chelsea game so close

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 25-03-2013 12:58pm

Bateman wrote: »

Anyone else fancy France to stuff Spain and crank up some pressure on them?

They will be missing Jordi Alba and there are enough signs that a big away game is not really what they need right now.

I know St Denis isn't exactly a terribly hostile place but great teams tend to fall from grace quickly and without many people predicting it.

I suppose the draw is a serious runner but I think France have the tools to beat them.

You really expect France to stuff Spain? I can maybe see France getting something from the game as Spain continue to pass the ball to oblivion without doing much in front of goal but to get stuffed, I dont think thats going to happen somehow or another.

My best guess would be 0-0 or 1-1, France will be more than happy with a draw I think.

Bateman · 25-03-2013 1:01pm

I just mean beat them, not hammer them. Spain losing this game would be a bit of a stuffing as it would make it very difficult for them to top the group. Spain in the playoffs, can you imagine. :eek:

They are making a big deal about Xavi and Alonso being back in the team but their fabled midfield went missing at the Calderon in the reverse fixture, if anything they aren't as worried about this one as they should be.

Bateman · 25-03-2013 1:05pm

Shane St. wrote: »

I was thinking of going huge on Sunderland +1. As a Utd fan myself I think we can afford to lose this one and a draw is not a disaster. It's going to be a shadow side with the Chelsea game so close

There is needle between Sunderland and United fans over some slagging on the last day of the season last year when City snatched it from them.

I know that doesn't/shouldn't affect what happens on the pitch but Ferguson was thought to have been extremely displeased with Sunderland's attitude at the time as well so I think some of it may have spilled over to be more than fans' stuff.

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