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BMW retrofits

  • 08-01-2019 11:29pm
    #1
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭


    Hi all

    Im getting my hands on a decent specced e60 lci.

    However, 2 things it doesnt have are bluetooth and satnav.

    Now the bluetooth isnt a huge hassle, plenty of kits for that, but since bmstuff / germanicks isnt gracing us anymore, im wondering what options i have to retrofit a cic nav or indeed a nbt.

    I can source the kit if needed but would need an installer and coder around dublin. Anybody any ideas?

    Also any recommendations for any more gadgets that can be installed same time?


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  • #2
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Have you considered installing an Android head unit rather than CIC? I had CIC retrofitted to my F10, but if I was to do it again I'd probably try out an Android unit next time around.


  • #3
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    i am not removing any options. apart from dynavin, i havent been in touch with what other options there are. i have an apple phone, so ideally carplay support would be brilliant, but an android unit not out of the question as i would use google maps or waze as my commute can sometimes require me to change routes suddenly if there is traffic.

    Any recommendations are welcome, but i think one of the main issues is who can do the change as i have no contacts since Mick has left boards.


  • #4
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    If you are anyway into working on your own car, the android units are straight enough forward to install ans no coding required. It was Mick who installed my CIC at the time and I dont know of anyone else who has that expertise to do it. The coding of the CIC is not an easy task.

    Here is one of the Android units on one of a forum members F10's. I cant personally recommend any though I am afraid and I have no personal experience of them.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107433551&postcount=7608


  • #5
    Skatedude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    Android auto with your phone using google maps. that way you get all of your saved locations, traffic updates and can google new locations that are never included in stand alone sat nav systems.


  • #6
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    do you have any product ideas? im looking online and the avins or android autos 7.1 or 8.1 might be good but there are queries around poor audio and poor bluetooth microphone, as well as no audio with the carplay adapter etc....


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  • #7
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    Can anyone recommend an installer for something like this

    http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=323612044202&category=258035&pm=1&ds=0&t=1545487537000&ver=0&cspheader=1

    I would like to add carplay as well. Im not great with trying to diy this as im worried re audio as there are forums fhat say the audio can be pants...


    Even if someone sells the kit and can install it that would be better. Need bluetooth calls so i wonder if a microphone needed too for good call quality.

    Around dublin/wicklow


  • #8
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Check out https://www.bimmer-tech.net/, they have loads of kit and some useful videos. I've used their cable upgrade service on my last 2 BMWs


  • #9
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    Clareman wrote: »
    Check out https://www.bimmer-tech.net/, they have loads of kit and some useful videos. I've used their cable upgrade service on my last 2 BMWs

    thanks clareman, did you do it yourself or did you get someone to do the work? will have no time/place to do them as with small kids.


  • #10
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Very unusual for an LCI E60 not to have Bluetooth?
    Are you sure its not there?


    There are a few sellers on adverts selling the NBT retrofits and offer coding too.
    Also, BMW Workshop on Aylmer Road in Newcastle do the coding


  • #11
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    kceire wrote: »
    Very unusual for an LCI E60 not to have Bluetooth?
    Are you sure its not there?


    There are a few sellers on adverts selling the NBT retrofits and offer coding too.
    Also, BMW Workshop on Aylmer Road in Newcastle do the coding

    Yes. Absolutely no trace of bluetooth or satnav. Not even sure its wired for bluetooth. Has plenty of great spec though...

    Nbt/nbt evo costing 1200-1500 to fit...

    Looking into android route but unsure re dual nav and radio same time. ICE quoting 1000 to install an android headunit (£400) for sale in uk


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  • #12
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I've already got the Pronav set up in my F10, is it a pricey business to add-on the reversing camera?


  • #13
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    They setup a Skype session and do it for you, really easy really. Throw your VIN in here and it'll tell you what can be done

    https://www.bimmer-tech.net/bmw-idrive-coding/


  • #14
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    Clareman wrote: »
    They setup a Skype session and do it for you, really easy really. Throw your VIN in here and it'll tell you what can be done

    https://www.bimmer-tech.net/bmw-idrive-coding/

    If thats meant for me the only options available are

    Digital speedo
    Auto lock on moving
    Auto windows from fob.


    Thats all.

    I can pm you my vin if you want


  • #15
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I've already got the Pronav set up in my F10, is it a pricey business to add-on the reversing camera?

    About €400.

    I’m thinking of adding to mine also.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/20183822


  • #16
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Spipov wrote: »
    If thats meant for me the only options available are

    Digital speedo
    Auto lock on moving
    Auto windows from fob.


    Thats all.

    I can pm you my vin if you want

    Sorry just spotted your post now. My car has loads of options that can be turned on or off by coding but if your car doesn't have the hardware then it's fairly limiited as to what can be done, sorry.


  • #17
    BrookieD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    in the same boat, upgrade small screen in 2012 F10 to a 10" android unit... If anyone has supplier and fitter details please pass them on.


  • #18
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    Deciding to get a £400 android unit with carplay dongle and external microphone to help with bluetooth calls.

    Anyone knows anyone who is handy at doing the install around dublin? Would not fancy diy ing this


  • #19
    kao123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭kao123


    Spipov wrote: »
    Deciding to get a £400 android unit with carplay dongle and external microphone to help with bluetooth calls.

    Anyone knows anyone who is handy at doing the install around dublin? Would not fancy diy ing this

    Can I ask which unit you are getting?, I have an 2015 F10 and am looking to do the same, various forums and sites report plusses and minuses on various suppliers, I know the head units are pretty much all the same manufacturer.
    The prices are a bit varied too.

    Thanks in advance.


  • #20
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    kao123 wrote: »
    Can I ask which unit you are getting?, I have an 2015 F10 and am looking to do the same, various forums and sites report plusses and minuses on various suppliers, I know the head units are pretty much all the same manufacturer.
    The prices are a bit varied too.

    Thanks in advance.


    Mine is an e60 so im quite restricted in what i can get. Ill get one from uk ebay seller and has good communication.android 8.1 at £400 and i expect it will be cheaper for a f10. Will get carplay dongle.

    Havent bought yet as i havent found an installer yet


  • #21
    kao123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭kao123


    Spipov wrote: »
    Mine is an e60 so im quite restricted in what i can get. Ill get one from uk ebay seller and has good communication.android 8.1 at £400 and i expect it will be cheaper for a f10. Will get carplay dongle.

    Havent bought yet as i havent found an installer yet

    I'd be interested to know which seller you go with, there's lots of them out there.

    As for installing it, it is something that is doable yourself, if you are ok with popping off some trim in the car, there's a bunch of videos on youtube.

    I installed a pumpkin android unit in my previous car, it took about 3 hours but it was overall an easy job, stuffing the canbus and cables in the dash was the hardest part.

    I found these guys on Adverts, I've never used them or anything - https://www.adverts.ie/audio/bmw-5-series-f10-multimedia-dvd-gps-system-2013-2017/15614793

    Maybe they can help with your install?


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  • #22
    Spipov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    Dont think they do installs. There was a nice guy from longford but he suppies his own systems and they are 700 with older version and no carplay, total cost 850 inc fitting. Too pricey, might as well install a nbt or nbt evo!

    Ill wait for better weather and see if im not chicken,trim bits scare me as im terrified of creating a rattle. I drive a lot and this would render me nuts


  • #23
    SpikeyBoi
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭SpikeyBoi


    Try Bmw coding Tipperary on facebook


  • #24
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    What time do you open?


  • #25
    Board Walker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Has anyone installed a digital dash cluster? I was thinking of getting a 6WB digital cluster for my F36. the Physical job is easy but none of the BMW garages are too keen on installing one for me. I only bought the car last week but couldn't find one with the digital cluster.


  • #26
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Would you try giving it a go yourself???

    https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1424646


  • #27
    Board Walker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Physical installation is easy but there is no way i'm paying 1800 dollars for one plus whatever customs hit me for at the door. i can get one for 950 to the door at least but the rest isn't easy :D

    I see BMW Coding in Tipperary do software upgrades. Might look into getting apple car play. I use it all the time abroad when i travel with work, its really cool! Has anyone got BMW Coding in tipp to do work for them?


  • #28
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Board Walker wrote: »
    Has anyone installed a digital dash cluster? I was thinking of getting a 6WB digital cluster for my F36. the Physical job is easy but none of the BMW garages are too keen on installing one for me. I only bought the car last week but couldn't find one with the digital cluster.

    https://www.facebook.com/BMworkshop.ie/


  • #29
    Robbie IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Robbie IRE


    Hi ,
    I've an e61 with cic & was looking at getting one of the android head units 10 or 9.0 from Alibaba.
    Did anyone ever get one of these units fitted to their car ?
    Quality etc any good ?
    There is a euro supplier for similar units . I've a good auto electrician in westmeath that will fit it . Just not sure who to by from & what's good/not good .

    Any help would be great .


  • #30
    wandererz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Robbie IRE wrote: »
    Hi ,
    I've an e61 with cic & was looking at getting one of the android head units 10 or 9.0 from Alibaba.
    Did anyone ever get one of these units fitted to their car ?
    Quality etc any good ?
    There is a euro supplier for similar units . I've a good auto electrician in westmeath that will fit it . Just not sure who to by from & what's good/not good .

    Any help would be great .

    I got an Eonon unit fitted to my e90.
    Works perfectly. Did a self install. Not too difficult.

    https://www.eonon.co.uk


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  • #31
    Robbie IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Robbie IRE


    wandererz wrote: »
    I got an Eonon unit fitted to my e90.
    Works perfectly. Did a self install. Not too difficult.

    https://www.eonon.co.uk

    Had a look at those guys but they dont seem to have a unit for e60/61.

    I could get one off aliexpress or andream but I've never bought from either & I'm not sure if it's worth the risk .Also Aliexpress say if I order from EU stock I dont pay vat etc. Just sound iffy


  • #32
    cormie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,838 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Hey, did anyone find any audio installers to recommend? I'm looking to upgrade my audio in a Sprinter van, have everything bought and a bit of the electrics done, but would like someone who knows their audio (in terms of impedance, gain level, sensitivity etc) to help with the rest!


  • #33
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Robbie IRE wrote: »
    Had a look at those guys but they dont seem to have a unit for e60/61.

    I could get one off aliexpress or andream but I've never bought from either & I'm not sure if it's worth the risk .Also Aliexpress say if I order from EU stock I dont pay vat etc. Just sound iffy

    I am running an Andream unit in my F10 and its been reliable so far in the 12 months or so that I have owned it. Had an issue with screen blanking initially but reached out to the support team and new software update resolved it.


  • #34
    Robbie IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Robbie IRE


    Harcrid wrote: »
    I am running an Andream unit in my F10 and its been reliable so far in the 12 months or so that I have owned it. Had an issue with screen blanking initially but reached out to the support team and new software update resolved it.

    So was that off the andream website you bought it?


  • #35
    Robbie IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Robbie IRE


    cormie wrote: »
    Hey, did anyone find any audio installers to recommend? I'm looking to upgrade my audio in a Sprinter van, have everything bought and a bit of the electrics done, but would like someone who knows their audio (in terms of impedance, gain level, sensitivity etc) to help with the rest!

    If you are in the westmeath area .Tomtech auto on Facebook also . Great guy fixed a load of electric issues I had with my e61. Does installing also


  • #36
    cormie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,838 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Thanks, sent a message! It'd be a bit of a drive but let's see :)


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  • #37
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Robbie IRE wrote: »
    So was that off the andream website you bought it?

    Got it from here.

    https://www.android-car-dvd.de/collections/for-bmw


  • #38
    faith76
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭faith76


    Harcrid wrote: »
    Got it from here.

    Was it easy to install it? I am considering to get a unit like this. Is it reliable? Thank you for your time.


  • #39
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    If you are any way handy with removing some trim and panels then its quite straightforward. No issues so far with mine.


  • #40
    Board Walker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    SpikeyBoi wrote: »
    Try Bmw coding Tipperary on facebook

    Hes called M Coding now on facebook. he has a unit in Clonmel. Got a 6WB from him installed for 1050, it is MINT, i actually thought it was out of the box. Makes a crazy difference.


  • #41
    Jerryc55
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Jerryc55


    Can anybody recommend someone to retrofit NBT EVO ID6 in a 2014 F10?


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  • #42
    Board Walker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Yep, M-Coding in Clonmel. They did a 6WB for me in a 2016 F36. I did enquire about it and i think it was about 700 including the head unit. I have ID4 so i wont bother getting a 6


  • #43
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I hope he is paying you commission.


  • #44
    Board Walker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    Ha! No i was just very happy with the service. It was costing 1300 from GA coding from the UK all in so saved a bit of money and didn't have to do it remotely.


  • #45
    lintdrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Sorry to dig this thread up but I'm wondering if anyone here has successfully retrofitted CIC?
    I have an e92 that came with CCC and that unit failed just before Christmas. I have got a CIC system with screen and controller. It's from an F series car so I'll have to get creative with the LCD screen to fit it in the e90 housing I have.
    Waiting on cables to be delivered but I haven't ordered an emulator. Hoping to get around the emulator with some coding but can't find a definitive answer as to whether that's possible.


  • #46
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    I installed this Apple CarPlay unit today into my 2011 F10. Very impressed so far and allows full wireless Carplay or wired Android Auto. Time will tell if its buggy or not but first impressions are good at least.

    https://www.android-car-dvd.com/products/ew964wadcp-f10-f11-f18?variant=35143168786595

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  • #47
    phill106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭phill106


    Very nice. I have a f30 330e, comes with the 8 inch screen.
    Managed to get carplay enabled, but sadly i am an android user.
    Cant believe how anti android bmw are...


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