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Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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    #62
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Some mate if he doesn’t know where he lives!

    I know where my mates live, in the main I couldn't reel off the address though


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    #63
    JeffKenna
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    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    I know where my mates live, in the main I couldn't reel off the address though

    Thinking of my wedding next year for invites I wouldn't know most of my mates address. I've never had to send them a letter before.


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    #64
    Man with broke phone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I'm not denying it might be correct but you can't attribute what a mate says about someone as true. Aka if one of your mates said you were a racist I wouldn't take that as fact regardless of how close you are to him.

    The real story from the article is the document. Only my opinion of course.

    They cant say it outright but at the end it looks like they are saying it looks like O Tuathill can get a direct provision contract for the right price, then it names who would have to be paid. There is a giant money bag picture in there. It also looks like the guy Bowes needed to be told Leo is not the one who needs to be paid this time.


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    #65
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    awec wrote: »
    I am guessing it's in The Village because none of the big media would run it without more substantial evidence.

    Tsk. A Russian Disinformation Campaign then. :mad:


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    #66
    Risteard81
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    #JailLeotheCrimelord


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    #67
    JeffKenna
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    Man with broke phone wrote: »
    They cant say it outright but at the end it looks like they are saying it looks like O Tuathill can get a direct provision contract for the right price, then it names who would have to be paid. There is a giant money bag picture in there. It also looks like the guy Bowes needed to be told Leo is not the one who needs to be paid this time.

    Interesting, I took the money bag to mean that he'd be interested as he'd clean up money wise. You could be right though.


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    #68
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,433 ✭✭✭jackboy


    The story is gone all over. If not true I would expect Varadkar to give a strong denial today. If he doesn’t do that he is probably in damage limitation mode and there may be a real story here.


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    #69
    Phoebas
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    Man with broke phone wrote: »
    They cant say it outright but at the end it looks like they are saying it looks like O Tuathill can get a direct provision contract for the right price, then it names who would have to be paid. There is a giant money bag picture in there. It also looks like the guy Bowes needed to be told Leo is not the one who needs to be paid this time.

    There's a Father Ted meme for this.


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    #70
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    jackboy wrote: »
    The story is gone all over. If not true I would expect Varadkar to give a strong denial today. If he doesn’t do that he is probably in damage limitation mode and there may be a real story here.

    I'm sure we'll see a defamation case from him against the Village if the allegations are not true.


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    #71
    Coillte_Bhoy
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    So what is alleged?

    Why dont you read the article? Are we supposed to spoon feed you


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    #72
    Brussels Sprout
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    awec wrote: »
    I am guessing it's in The Village because none of the big media would run it without more substantial evidence.

    Certainly can't imagine Philip Ryan being too eager to platform this story anyway :pac:


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    #73
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    smurgen wrote: »
    I'm sure we'll see a defamation case from him against the Village if the allegations are not true.

    Why do you think that?

    Many politicians have had numerous allegations flung at them through the years and not taken cases:)


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    #74
    Phoebas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    How are village magazine saying they got hold of this?
    It looks like a screen grab of a text exchange between Leo and o'Tuathaill.

    How did Village magazine say they got it?

    YrAMbUL.jpg


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    #75
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Why do you think that?

    Many politicians have had numerous allegations flung at them through the years and not taken cases:)

    This specific and damaging? Can't say many spring to mind.


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    #76
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Phoebas wrote: »
    How are village magazine saying they got hold of this?
    It looks like a screen grab of a text exchange between Leo and o'Tuathaill.

    How did Village magazine say they got it?

    YrAMbUL.jpg

    The print version has more details. Need to get a copy.


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    #77
    Phoebas
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    smurgen wrote: »
    The print version has more details. Need to get a copy.
    Is it going to be one of those stories!


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    #78
    Dubh Geannain
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    This is the Village people :pac:

    But that said i expect tomorrow's Sindo headline to be "Did Sinn Féin hack Varadkar's WhatsApp messages?"


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    #79
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Is it going to be one of those stories!

    Not sure I follow. I suppose I'll pose the question I'm waiting to hear back on from Paddy Losty... If the allegations of leaking of commercially sensitive information by Leo Varadkar are true would it be acceptable to you?


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    #80
    JohnnyFlash
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    Who wrote this?


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    #81
    Phoebas
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    smurgen wrote: »
    Not sure I follow. I suppose I'll pose the question I'm waiting to hear back on from Paddy Losty... If the allegations of leaking of commercially sensitive information by Leo Varadkar are true would it be acceptable to you?

    Of course it wouldn't be acceptable.
    But cart before the horse.

    This story so far as we can see it, dies not show that Varadkar leaked the document. It's a join the dots that can be turned into anything.


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    #82
    AlphaDelta1
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    Have Newstalk blamed SF yet for this?


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    #83
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    Have Newstalk blamed SF yet for this?

    Always the victims.


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    #84
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Of course it wouldn't be acceptable.
    But cart before the horse.

    This story so far as we can see it, dies not show that Varadkar leaked the document. It's a join the dots that can be turned into anything.

    Good to hear so let's see what happens. The allegations have been made and it will have to be cleared up on both sides.


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    #85
    caveat emptor
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    Looks to be some merit. Never liked that zero craic doctor fella. Boasting about influence when he should have been posting about influenza.

    Here's the article in full I think for those who haven't read it.

    https://villagemagazineireland2020.medium.com/leo-varadkar-lawbreaker-tánaiste-leaked-confidential-document-to-friend-efdd1f14cfcb


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    #86
    s1ippy
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    https://villagemagazineireland2020.medium.com/leo-varadkar-lawbreaker-t%C3%A1naiste-leaked-confidential-document-to-friend-efdd1f14cfcb

    He has to go.

    "It’s an indiscretion that may contravene the Criminal Justice (Corruption Offences) Act 2018, the Dáil members’ Code of Conduct 2002, and the Official Secrets Act, 1963. The Corruption Act alone carries a penalty of up to 10 years in jail and prohibition from holding public office."

    I've always known he was an unscrupulous prick but he's broken laws here. He needs hanging out to dry.


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    #87
    JohnnyFlash
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    KaneToad wrote: »
    Ah, Paddy Cosgrave thinks it's an issue. That's enough for me. I'm out.


    Wait, Ewen MacKenna, Roman Shortall, and some other Twitter cranks also have opinions on this anonymous article.



    We must hear them out.


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    #88
    caveat emptor
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    It all looks fairly damning. Will be interesting to see what happens.

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    #89
    drake70
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    Not a fan of Leo. or any of them for that matter, but ...

    (the slight discolouration under the name is where I removed my work mobile number)

    6034073


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    #90
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    If whoever leaked the story (I suspect Bowes) is willing to corroborate further and provide evidence, then I don't see why he won't face jail time. He should.

    No doubt others have stories about leaks of this nature as well. He's likely pissed a load of people off down through the years. I have my fingers crossed that this is the end of him.

    Usually I don't give a fiddler's about who is governing so long as they're reasonably competent. Not only is he incompetent, he's arrogant, smug, actively undermines everyone around him. He makes the country look bad. This scandal will be of great benefit to the country as it will see him removed from his position of influence and hopefully imprisoned.

    Come on 2020, just do this one thing.


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    #91
    awec
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    I think some are getting ahead of themselves. Even if Varadkar does get brought down over this alleged scandal, it certainly isn't going to happen on the back of The Village article as it is today.


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