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Maps of Dublin from 1960s ?

  • 11-11-2013 12:02pm
    #1
    180567
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    Hello - I wonder would anyone know where I could view maps of Dublin as it was in the 1960's ? In particular the suburbs ?

    I'm trying to find out the location of the St.Patrick's home which was on the Navan Road in Dublin 7 and has since been demolished.


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  • #2
    shanew
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    looks like it was located near Ashtown, and on the northern side of the road - i.e. opposite St. Vincents and the racecourse.

    see : Dublin c1935

    grid ref D3 on the map


  • #3
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    Shane,

    is your map dated? I have a cloth backed map very similar to the one on your link but I think a bit earlier though undated.

    It doesn't have Goatstown or Mountainville Road labelled in M14. Below L14 it has an acknowledgement for permission to produce the map from the Minister forFinance of "Saorstat Erieann". I assume from the typo that it may be from the early 1920s.

    In my version of the map, St Patrick's Home in D3 is labelled Pelletstown School and the railway line is labelled GSR rather than CIE.

    Johnny


  • #4
    shanew
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    That map is undated.. the 1935 date is my estimate. I'm thinking maybe a little later. I'm sure an analysis of roads and street names would help work it out - some day if I ever get time..

    As far as I remember Pelletstown was the older name for St. Patrick's, so might help give cut off dates for our two maps


  • #5
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    thanks Shane.

    I just had a look at the CIE website and the History page there indicates CIE as starting in 1945. A quick google shows the GSR as operating from 1925 to 1945. Suggesting our maps are later than we thought.

    Johnny


  • #6
    shanew
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    I think I saw the same website ... interesting

    Mount Merrion had an anniversary (300?), I think last year and I see just some of the roads in the area have been built on mine. I have info at home from that. I think it details when each road was started, must check that out

    Does your map show the Rise Mount Merrion ?

    ref. O13 on mine


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  • #7
    who the fug
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    Busaras not built so before 1953, and it has the trams which went in 1949


  • #8
    shanew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    Aerial photo of Mount Merrion dated 1949 on their website - looks like more of the roads than on my map - e.g. Callary/Greenfield

    see : Mount Merrion 300 - Aerial photos


  • #9
    shanew
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    based mainly on an overlay of the map and the '49 Aerial Photo of Mount Merrion, plus the C.I.E. information etc, I'm going to revise my date for that map to about 1946/47.


  • #10
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    shanew wrote: »
    I think I saw the same website ... interesting

    Mount Merrion had an anniversary (300?), I think last year and I see just some of the roads in the area have been built on mine. I have info at home from that. I think it details when each road was started, must check that out

    Does your map show the Rise Mount Merrion ?

    ref. O13 on mine

    no sign of The Rise. O13 on my map is fairly clear - Stillorgan Rd, Mount Merrion Avenue, South Hill Avenue and Booterstown Ave. A Fortwilliam is shown by the junction of Mount Merrion Ave with Stillorgan Rd.


  • #11
    shanew
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    johnny_doyle wrote: »
    no sign of The Rise. O13 on my map is fairly clear - Stillorgan Rd, Mount Merrion Avenue, South Hill Avenue and Booterstown Ave. A Fortwilliam is shown by the junction of Mount Merrion Ave with Stillorgan Rd.

    Construction of The Rise started in 1934, so looks like your map is before this..


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  • #12
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    just had a google for the publisher Geographia and found this webpage which talks about a code in the left hand corner of the map

    http://randomactsofcartography.wordpress.com/geographia-ltd/

    My map is coded UME (never noticed it before) which I think translates as printed Feb 1935, much later than I thought.


  • #13
    shanew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    johnny_doyle wrote: »
    just had a google for the publisher Geographia and found this webpage which talks about a code in the left hand corner of the map

    http://randomactsofcartography.wordpress.com/geographia-ltd/

    My map is coded UME (never noticed it before) which I think translates as printed Feb 1935, much later than I thought.

    just spotted that mine (also a Geographia) has CD:BA lower right... which if the 'Cumberland' decoding system applies translates to Oct 1948 (10.48) - perfect !!


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